Cosd Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Got my gun out today for the first time since last Monday when I was shooting on a wet day with DennyEssex. I am gutted, the barrels are spotted with rust!! Totally my fault, I can't believe I was so stupid. I used a sponge and rubbed the barrels hard; The brown rust spots came out, but the barrels are now marked wherever there was a spot. And they are covered from end to end. I'm guessing I have to get them re-blued unless one of you guys make my day and tell me something I can try? I was thinking maybe using a very fine paper like 4000 grade and use it wet. But I'm also thinking even that fine will scratch them up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Bad luck mate , I used mine in the rain this morning but I've got it drying out all day before I clean/put it away tonight. Probably best to ask a gunsmiths advice. Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Try one of those plastic pan scourers very gently with some oil, or some very fine wire wool with some oil. Be gentle, and you may be surprised with the results. I've only had to do this once on a friends beretta, but it worked a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Yeah fine wire wool like 0000 grade soaked in oil. Just gently work it over the barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 smacked handy's and give your self a telling off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I did the same. Used the gun blue you can get from the shops. Not the best but not really noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 dont use any paper abrasives use the finet wire wool you can find ,plenty of oil and do it gently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Phew! At least it was only a Medallist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemicky Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Doesnt anybody after cleaning the gun use a little oil on a rag over the barrels and this leaves a thin film to protect it next time it's used, possibly in the rain , it looks like when you've polished the car beads of water just run off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 yep every time oiled cotton (oil tshirt) all over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badshot Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Always run an oily rag over the gun when cleaning. However my guns are my tools and they have to work in less than ideal conditions and i don't get worked up about a few marks as long as it still works safely is the main thing. Annoying though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 That's bad... possibly your chokes are rusted in as well. Water and barrels do not mix well. If there's a hint of dampness in the air, then I spray and wipe the barrels before I leave the ground, and if it was really wet I'll not leave the barrels in the slip either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 it`s good to get into a good cleaning routine. i clean mine after each time i use it. that way i lift a clean gun the next time i need it.i don`t feel happy leaving a gun uncleaned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushat Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 What a great avatar BSA Airgunner Just what the anti's need, a camo'd chav holding a gun and sticking the V's up at the camera. Do yourself and your sport a favour and lose the stupid image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDYD Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 What a great avatar BSA Airgunner Just what the anti's need, a camo'd chav holding a gun and sticking the V's up at the camera. Do yourself and your sport a favour and lose the stupid image. And i thought the topic was about cleaning guns (or rather not) AD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hi guys, Mr stupid here! Thanks for the tips and advice. I know it's "just" a Medalist as Deako kindly mentioned, but I like it and I'm still gutted this happened. I think I know what happened, I would have been more concious if the gun was wet when I finished shooting, but it wasn't. What happened was my gun slip must have got wet and or damp inside, so when I put the gun in there it was like wrapping it up in a wet sponge! The gun was then put in the gun cabinet in it's case. You live and learn I suppose. I cleaned the barrels using some very very fine automotive abrasive sponge; Tried a little bit beneath the hand grip and it was not scratching the barrels. I used this with cleaning oil and gently got rid of all the rust but the blueing has gone wherever the rust was. The inside of the barrels was not affected and the chokes are fine too. I'll have to keep a thin film of oil on the barrels all the time now until I get the barrels re-blued. Has anyone had re-bueing done lately or know what the cost is? I want to get it done properly as oposed to the DIY kits you can buy. Thanks again guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) what a ****** - give Ladbook and Langton a call, they're nice helpful chappies... 01923 854639 Edited May 5, 2009 by nickbeardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 what a ****** - give Ladbook and Langton a call, they're nice helpful chappies...01923 854639 Thanks for that Nick, just called them, £117 to get them brand new again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Slightly off subject, but just as important... Always clean blood of your gun, as it eats through the metal to the point you'll need new barrels if left untouched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 £117?? Try the DIY approach first for a few £'s. You'll be suprised at the results if done properly. The blueing on most air guns is pretty ropey and doesnt stand up to much moisture. My S200 only has to sniff some damp air and it's trouble, so thats always well oiled on the outside, yet my Browning SG is out in all weathers and after a lot of years is still good as new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 £117?? Try the DIY approach first for a few £'s. You'll be suprised at the results if done properly. The blueing on most air guns is pretty ropey and doesnt stand up to much moisture. My S200 only has to sniff some damp air and it's trouble, so thats always well oiled on the outside, yet my Browning SG is out in all weathers and after a lot of years is still good as new. How good is DIY blueing though? OK, I know it won't be the same, but is it passable or does it look ropey? Can you recomend any kits? I'm willing to have a read and open to suggestions. To be honest the barrels did have spots on them which were noticable on close inspection when the gun was cleaned. I don't know if these were a cover up somehow to rusting in the past (gun bought second hand) and my doing what I did just brought it out or whether the bluing/barrels are that suscepible to rust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushat Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 A proper bluing job is difficult and in order to achieve a decent finish I'd chalk it up to experience and cough up the £117 (although you may find a bit cheaper if you shop around). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Cosd Lesson learnt and the hard way is always the best! If you’re more into pigeon, live quarry shooting then go the whole hog and have them barrels blacked not blued. Same process just comes out matt black which is far better for pigeon shooting (IMO) as it reduces glare. Brownings are generally bad at being mistreated and rust more readily than some other makes, don't know why, maybe the metal or poor blueing in the first place. It's not necessary to clean a gun every time it gets used (modern powders aren't as corrosive as the older stuff and metals are different) but it's always useful to give it a wipe over with an oily rag before putting it away in the cabinet and NEVER put it away in the sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddan Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) I never put a gun away in the slip and if it was wet when i was shooting last I check it again the next day to make sure no rust has developed. It amazes mehow quickly it takes hold. Dan Edited May 5, 2009 by reddan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Cosd Lesson learnt and the hard way is always the best! If you’re more into pigeon, live quarry shooting then go the whole hog and have them barrels blacked not blued. Same process just comes out matt black which is far better for pigeon shooting (IMO) as it reduces glare. Brownings are generally bad at being mistreated and rust more readily than some other makes, don't know why, maybe the metal or poor blueing in the first place. It's not necessary to clean a gun every time it gets used (modern powders aren't as corrosive as the older stuff and metals are different) but it's always useful to give it a wipe over with an oily rag before putting it away in the cabinet and NEVER put it away in the sleeve. Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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