chris o Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 i have a remmington model 1100. how can i tell if the gun fits me right? i found out i was rifleing and i dont do it any more and i am hitting the birds that i think i am as a puff of feathers come off the bird. but they seem to fly on for a bit longer. why is this? the gun has a fixed choke and it is skeet a think. can someone please help me? is it me choke? and if so what choke should i have it bored to? or is it that the gun is a complete miss fit? the only thing though bout that is i have used it on clays and i hit more clays then i have ever hit before. so could someone please help me please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tis1979 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Hey mate I'm no expert but i wouldn't say a skeet gun is perfect for pigeon shooting but saying that i should work fine you didn't mention what Carts your using? the puff of feathers would make me think you arnt giving quite enough lead. As for fitting take it to a gunsmith/fitter and ask him how it looks He'll probably ask how it feels and you might gain somthing by listening & if needed a slight alter. sorry if thats a little Vague. Tis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 **** ending them mate bit more lead or move up a shot size , Please don't tell me your using 8's on live targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 if your gun is bored skeet im afraid your stuck with it as you cant get it tighter. you could try nigel teague to see if he could multi it for you. as for not hitting them and just getting feathers, it could be carts like tis said or just need more choke. let them come closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris o Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 i am using dnj 32g no6. could i get it bored to a quarter or half choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Probably need to give them a wee bit more lead,remember that a clay may be slowing when you pull the trigger a live bird will be still motoring unless it's settling into the pattern! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 i am using dnj 32g no6. could i get it bored to a quarter or half choke? Boring it will open it up not close the pattern down ( skeet being open 1/4 1/2 being tighter ) Advertise for a barrel there's plenty out there ,or cut the range back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 don,t get hung up on chokes,learn to use what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 don,t get hung up on chokes,learn to use what you have. I agree, choke changing all the time aint good,use what you have,and before long youll be fine BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 puff of feathers says to me your under the bird or slightly behind it , is it left to rights ? right to lefts ? away birds ? or oncommers your missing . or All of them ? Wabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Well according to your previous post you don't seem to be having too much of a problem. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...&pid=775416 If they fly on just a couple of yards then drop down dead i'd say you were pretty much on the money. However, if you're missing as many as you say maybe get back to the clays and practice until you're a bit more proficient. A skeet choke shouldn't be a problem as long as you keep your shots to a suitable range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 if you're fluffing a few feathers and then the birds move on, then you're just barely clipping them with your pattern. Most of the time that means you're behind them, but it could mean you're over/under if the gun's drop isn't quite right. Check it on the pattern board for up and down to see where it is hitting for you. You'll be fine with clays because you only need one pellet to break a clay. A fringe shot like that will still break them. A live bird needs to be centered. A skeet choke will do 30-35 yards just fine on live birds. If you find it isn't tight enough for you, switch to a plastic wad and light/slow load. That will tighten things up. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I'm no expert but I thought skeet guns are set to shoot high? Best suggestion I've seen so far is getting a different barrel! GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 sounds like the patterns too wide and ya not putting enough pellets onto the bird at the range your shooting them at. i had the same problem last year shooting pigeons with a fixed choke gun was 1/4 and 1/2 i was pricking them. i then changed guns for multichoke gun and shoot 3/4 and full and now have no problems with pricked birds down they go no probs....i wouldnt shoot them with a skeet choke not unless there really close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris o Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 i am shooting the birds at bout 25 to 30 yard roughly. the only thing that confused me is that i shot at one that landed on the field so i had a good view of it especially its chest area took the shot and it started to fly and it flew for about 30 yards and then dropped dead. why is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 If you are shooting at pigeons at 25-30 yards range, with 32gm of No6 through skeet barrels, you should be killing them stone dead every time. IMO, there is nothing wrong with the range, the cartridge, or the choke, you seem to be just not hitting the birds square on. As has been said, with the flying targets give them a bit more lead and swing through them (don't just move the barrels in front of the bird, then stop and fire). Your example of the sitting pigeon ( you seem to suggest you aimed at its chest and it flew off 30 yards before dropping stone dead) is not the same as the flying bird misses. If a bird is sitting on the ground, or in a tree, you should aim at its feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 i am shooting the birds at bout 25 to 30 yard roughly. the only thing that confused me is that i shot at one that landed on the field so i had a good view of it especially its chest area took the shot and it started to fly and it flew for about 30 yards and then dropped dead. why is this? 1-2 pellets in the chest and none in the head or neck. The bird pops up and flies off, but is flying dead really as it is bleeding out internally. You're catching the bird in the fringe of your pattern. Like cranfield said, there is nothing wrong with the cartridge, choke, or gun if you're shooting at 20-30 yard birds. That's about an ideal setup really (I'd even consider choking at cylinder if none of the birds are over 30 yards). The gun isn't pointing where you're aiming and/or you're not getting a consistent mount. Go shoot it on a pattern board and report back. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 If a bird is sitting on the ground, or in a tree, you should aim at its feet. I agree this is usually true but best pattern the gun before assuming it. I used to miss sitting birds till I realized my gun shoots pretty flat about 50% above and 50% below the bead at 40yrds so now i put the bead on the bird if its sitting. Not a problem unless its a fast rising bird and then you have to get ahead of it and block it out with the barrels to hit it. Mind you quite alot of game guns shoot flat and its good for crossing birds I find. I would recommend firing any new gun at a pattern plate to get the feel of where its pointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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