covlocks Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Got a suprise last night when the farmer knocked my door at home and asked if I could sort out the pigeons that are giving him a headache in the cattle sheds. Just shoot them all he says... Well I can shoot them with my air rifle but that will take ages as each time I shoot one they will ****** off and I have to wait for them to re-appear. So would a moderated SG with subsonic 8's or 9's that can take out a few at a time be safe with the corragated roof?? I've only ever shot them in the fields, to sit and look at them all lined up in the roof of the barn is a bit of a novel approach to me - its tempting to wade in there but I dont want to be putting holes in the roof. Any ideas would be appreciated............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I wouldn't use a shotgun of any calibre inside a building, your best (only) bet is an air rifle. If you use an unmoderated air rifle you will be surprised how quickly they come back, its not like firing a shotgun. Obviously a moderated air rifle would be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Even an air rifle can punch holes through some roofing materials, so try to hit them when they are in the web of a girder, or other opportunity when the surface behind them is something tough enough. At short range a .22 air rifle and RWS Super Hollow Points work very well, I found .177 over penetrates. Use head and neck shots mostly, though if you can slip a shot up under the wing fold that can find a weak enough spot to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Thanks for that guys, I'll have to blow the dust off my S200 and S400 and get my cylinders topped up. I've been shooting the fields for some time now and have alway kept well away from the farm and buildings because of the noise factor and the fact its a busy dairy farm. There are nests and pigeons everywhere in the roof trusses, he is very strict about shooting on his land so its obvious no-one has attempted to control them before, so guess i'm in for a busy time. At least I wont have to got out at night looking for them, although it may be a new twist on the sport, pigeon shooting at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymagic1969 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Why not take a mate with you - he shoots them with the air rifle in the buildings and you blow em up with the shottie out side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 i do alot of shooting in cattle sheds, using a 12ga shotgun , got a few tricks that might work. if the shed is open on both ends, walk in one side and flush the birds out the other - straight into the waiting guns of a few friends. if theres only one door in/out, sit near it (outside) picking anything off that tries to come in, might take a few goes but itll work eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I use a moderated .410, a .17HM2 and an FAC .22 air rifle for shooting pigeons and rats in our farm buildings, but I would use only air power in someone else's buildings. I also use a semi-auto 12b for shooting rats at ground level in one of our grainstores, as it has blockwork walling to 10' height, and the steel framing is pigeon-proofed. I usually creep in, shut the doors behind me and use a red-filtered lamp. Replacing roof sheeting and vertical cladding is boring, dangerous and messy work, and I am not a fan of asbestos dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Shoot them at night with a lamp and airrifle, I do it each year and it is easy as hell. Try RWS Hobby`s as they are generally at short distance and the pellet does little or no damage to the roofing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconBoy Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Thanks for that guys, I'll have to blow the dust off my S200 and S400 and get my cylinders topped up. I've been shooting the fields for some time now and have alway kept well away from the farm and buildings because of the noise factor and the fact its a busy dairy farm. There are nests and pigeons everywhere in the roof trusses, he is very strict about shooting on his land so its obvious no-one has attempted to control them before, so guess i'm in for a busy time. At least I wont have to got out at night looking for them, although it may be a new twist on the sport, pigeon shooting at night. i'll help you with a bit of pigeon lamping? i'm only in bedworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 i again would say sub 12 ft lb air rifle in 22.nice quiet and will not scare livestock.i have saw cattlesheds with the gable wall sheets of tin pickled beyond repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 i again would say sub 12 ft lb air rifle in 22.nice quiet and will not scare livestock.i have saw cattlesheds with the gable wall sheets of tin pickled beyond repair. you been down my way then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 as HD says 12lb air rifle and a lamp take the LOT out in less than an hour job done! KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Bore Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Can you close the doors? If so do that at night and shoot til they are no more. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Baconboy, may just take you up on that as your only minutes from where I am. I am going again this afternoon on the way home from work to make a plan of attack and have to talk to the Farmer as he is really a stickler as to who shoots on his manor. As to the question of can I close the doors - apart from the milking shed, the other sheds are open both ends, ( I think the doors closed at one time - but not any more) so its a great idea chase them out with a couple of air rifle shots and have someone outside taking some more out with the shotties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 As to the question of can I close the doors - apart from the milking shed, the other sheds are open both ends, ( I think the doors closed at one time - but not any more) so its a great idea chase them out with a couple of air rifle shots and have someone outside taking some more out with the shotties. it really does work, plus its a hell of a lot of fun - just like clays but with real pigeons/crows i'll just point out though, we normally have 2 or 3 waiting outside with shotguns, just to maximise our chances. oh and make sure you shout out as soon as youve scared them, so the guys know theyre coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconBoy Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Baconboy, may just take you up on that as your only minutes from where I am. I am going again this afternoon on the way home from work to make a plan of attack and have to talk to the Farmer as he is really a stickler as to who shoots on his manor. As to the question of can I close the doors - apart from the milking shed, the other sheds are open both ends, ( I think the doors closed at one time - but not any more) so its a great idea chase them out with a couple of air rifle shots and have someone outside taking some more out with the shotties. i have Pm'd you cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Right i would do like kdubya has said.. I shoot a lot of ferals in cow sheds that are open ended i use my airrifle AA410 with a deben lamp with red filter and dimmer switch, I don't even go till it is well after dark keep the light turned down dim so you can just make the birds out safely and you will find they do not like to fly in the dark so its just target practice.. the last time Kdubya and myself shot like this we had over 50 in less than 1 hour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr salt Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 henry d post is spot on i would use those pellets ,out of a sub 12ft/lb spring air rifle. cheers scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Went out yesterday and had a shoot. Only got a couple a Pigeon in the barn before they all escaped. The missus was on the outside with the SG and but I didnt warn her quick enough that were coming, so by the time she saw them they were gone. Anyway I know exactly what I am at now, where they are nesting etc., and more importantly the fact that now the wheat and rape is in, the place is heaving with rats. I'm back to Spain for a couple of weeks on Friday and when I get back I'm going to have at 'em with a vengance. I haven't been ratting seriously before so that should be a learning curve. Think I can definately count the missus out though, she wasn't keen on getting cow **** all over her new boots so I cant see her crawling around after rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 well at least you know how to do it now, not going to tell you about the first time we tried it good luck! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Go on - you have us intrigued now How not to do it stories are always good so everyone can avoid going down the same path.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) B) lets just say that make sure everyone fully understands the plan and their jobs, mainly who's job it is to stand and shoot and who's job it is to flush out the birds; if everyone doesnt understand then you could find youself walking towards a door to flush the birds out, when suddenly 20+ crows burst out right in front of you - and you cant get a shot because theres another shed right behind them if that happens, you are obliged to bitch slap the stupid ****** who walked into the shed through the opposite door, because he didnt listen when you said "stand there and shoot anything that comes out" B) Edited August 24, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 i think i would have to be with some very trusted friends doing that carry on mate. someone could get hurt at that carry on. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 i think i would have to be with some very trusted friends doing that carry on mate. someone could get hurt at that carry on. i only go shooting with trusted friends mate i know what you mean but to be honest its not really. theres too very important rules - only shoot up and keep in contact. the person "flushing" doesnt actually shoot, just enters the door of the shed and scares the birds out the opposite end; the person(s) shooting are at a right angle to the shed, about 30 feet to the side of the door. the person who's flushing NEVER walks out the opposite door (or gets close to it) - tbh its less dangerous than clay trapping for some people i know!! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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