RossEM Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Came home from pigeon shooting today to find that the people living next to where I was shooting had complained about the noise - luckily the PCSO who came round was very diplomatic (she goes beating, helpfully.) We talked over the legal issues and she agreed I had done nothing wrong, (also, the landowner had been contacted and had backed me up) but I should use a little discretion in future. The upshot of all this is basically that each time I go onto one of my permissions, I should let the neighbours know - even though I'm well over 500 yds away when shooting. Technically, I could've told her to shove it - but I'd rather be deemed as considerate shooter...what do you guys think? Cheers, Ross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 So there are people living within 500 yards of fields that are surprised with they hear the odd shot? Why don't the old bill pop round and read them their fortunes about what it is to live within 500 yards of a working farm with fields within which stuff grows? The world has gone ******* mad..... again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 No. no no no don't tell them, let them inform the police every time and they will (hopefully) get told to shove off for wasting police time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 And what happens if the neighbors turn around to you and say oh do you mind leaving it today i have a bad head. thought you only needed permission of the land owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Thats what the PCSO has asked you to do, they can't make you do that. You are also being asked to tell them you are going shooting, not ask them if they mind. If you want to remain on good terms with your neighbours and the PCSO, then tell them every time you are going. Someone will soon get fed up with that, either you will, or they will. If you are genuinely over 500 yards away and shooting at reasonable times, I can't really see what their problem is. You don't say how long they have lived there, or how long you have had the permission, but it does seem strange that they have just started to complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Seems a pragmatic approach to me. You've done nothing wrong, you don't have to do as asked but a little consideration doesn't hurt, and will show and you and shooters generally in a good light. Go and see them, tell them what you're doing and let them see you're not some two headed baby eating monster. Perhaps offer to drop them off a brace of pigeons to help win them round? You might find they become a bit more reasonable and tolerant after that. I know some will say stuff em I've done nowt wrong, why should I pussy foot around, but we live on a crowded island and a little bit of give and take is a mark of maturity IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 No. no no no don't tell them, let them inform the police every time and they will (hopefully) get told to shove off for wasting police time. Spot on. And they will get told - I have watched such a ####ing being delivered to a couple of oxygen thieves that moved into the village and started bleating about shooting/gas bangers/machinery noise. They moved back to the 'burbs after about 14 months. I've managed to build up a good relationship with the skipper (and the NSOs and PCSOs) covering my area. It is paying dividends when it comes to dealing with irritating, whingeing plebs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Not an altogether completely different scenario to the one where EE recently got a tug from plod on our syndicate; quite different responses though - am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Not an altogether completely different scenario to the one where EE recently got a tug from plod on our syndicate; quite different responses though - am I missing something? no kids or nurseries involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan147 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 i trust you dont go shooting in the early hours of the morning, would really ruin their beauty sleep at 5 am wouldnt it, if you went and knocked on their door and said I am going shooting, is that OK?. Some people need to get a life and realise what to expect in they move to the countryside. Why dont you offer to take them shooting as well and really educate them? While you at it offer them a nice pigeon caserole as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) Just inform plod when you are going out and if anybody calls them then they know where you are and whats going on. What happens if neihbours are out and come back after you start shooting and complain ?. Best bet imho would be a quick call to plod and leave it at that. Trev Edited September 4, 2009 by Country_est Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmr Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 i had this problem bout 2 yrs ago.out shooting along comes plod asks if i have permission to be there.told him farmer in next field combining asked him what problem was .he said next doo stables said i was dropping shot on there roof spooking horses.these stables were 400yds from where i was plus wind in wqrong direction to stables.asked plod how far he thought shot would carry he didn,t know told him approx 300mts if wind in right direction.he went and asked farmer if i should tell neighbours when i go shooting,farmer told him to go away or words to that effect.no more probs and i do not tell them when i am going shooting there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Some people have no concept of rural life and these in particular have obviously never heard of gas guns! I wonder what their reaction would be if or when muck spreading starts... I wouldnt warn them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partridge60 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 offer the neighbours a couple of brace of fresh shot birds mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 tell them to **** off, bt just and i mean a tiny bit nicer. ur well within ur rights m8 why should it always be the shooters who have to run around to makesure everyone else can live with the couple of bangs here and there. Happy shooting dude have fun m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy33 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Read all the comments and all i can say is what a mixed bag, the only thing i can think to say is if the surrounding neighbours keep complaining then there could be a risk that the farmer gets fed up with the hastle of having you around, i would say talk to the neighbours and try to keep things amicable and maybe let the farmer know youve spoken to them just to show you dont want him to be hassled. Diplomacy i would say in these situations is best first policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Some people have no concept of rural life and these in particular have obviously never heard of gas guns! I wonder what their reaction would be if or when muck spreading starts... I wouldnt warn them. They'd definitely whinge if you spread cow/chicken muck, but you really need to spread (human) sewage sludge if you want to force people to move out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Had a similar incident a year or so ago, out shooting at around 11am on a saturday doing some crow bashing on a fresh cut field behind my house where I have permission. Bobby in a van came down due to "complaint", advsied that I had permission etc etc, she said that someone had complained because of the noise because they worked 9-5 and this was the weeked. My reply, went someonwere along the lines, that yes, me too. I work 45 hours a week and its now 11am and I have been up for 5 hours already. I could have started shooting at 6am if I wanted to, because thats legal and I have permission. If said complainant didnt like the sounds of the country side, then why do they live in a semi rural area. Do they complain when the farmer is muck spreading too.......unfortunately officer, Im breaking no laws but thank you for your concern.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Do they complain when the farmer is muck spreading too....... The complaints aren't limited to muck spreading - they'll complain about noise/dust/smells during harvest, mud on roads, unmaintained footpaths, trees, chainsaws, pigeon shooting, beaters shouting etc. Frustratingly, the complainers think nothing of pilfering sweetcorn growing in our fields, blocking up our gateways with their cars and letting their dogs **** everywhere. I absolutely hate NIMBY cock-ends who fail to realise that the countryside is actually a place of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev 1 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 I like the way you put it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Thanks for all your support people. I know I'm well within my rights, and after some advice from the landowner and other farmers I've seen today (all of them have told me to tell the residents to **** off) I won't be letting them know each time I go down to that particular field - but I will call the local police instead. Hopefully the moaners will get a visit and told to stop wasting police time? One more thing, I'm counting myself lucky that no armed response turned up, considering what's happening to a lot of us lately. Cheers, Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 P.S. Cranfield, I'm not sure how long they've been there but I've had the permission and have been shooting there approximately once a fortnight for about 5 years. Hardly antisocial, is it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) Sorry to hear about it I'll happily swap sirens, aircraft noise, chavs etc to move back to the country, they just have no idea Like Baldrick rightly says if you (meaning them, not you) don't like it go elsewhere, i bought a house 5 miles off the end of the runways at Heathrow.... do i complain? no, not one bit but plenty of idiots do. Like you say just let the police know (even though you don't have to) Personally i'd invite then round for a BBQ where everything is field shot (OH and whilst you are there get a few mates to go practicing a flurry or two ) Jon. Edited September 5, 2009 by JonD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Sorry to hear about it I'll happily swap sirens, aircraft noise, chavs etc to move back to the country, they just have no idea Like Baldrick rightly says if you (meaning them, not you) don't like it go elsewhere, i bought a house 5 miles off the end of the runways at Heathrow.... do i complain? no, not one bit but plenty of idiots do. Like you say just let the police know (even though you don't have to) Personally i'd invite then round for a BBQ where everything is field shot (OH and whilst you are there get a few mates to go practicing a flurry or two ) Jon. don't be so quick to shout the joys of the countryside. I had a formation of red arrows and a C-47 (Douglas DC-3) fly past my house earlier at no more than a thousand feet As for the whole issue about townies complaining about countryside life, well, you make your bed, and then you lie in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 I'd happily put up with that I grew up in a rural ish area and still miss waking up to look out of my bedroom window at the Pennines B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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