utectok Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) maybe some of you own both? Tell us the big diffs. I was told browings are better for big guys ? Beretta for weedy guys? Edited September 7, 2009 by utectok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 i have a browning so i'm bound to vote browning. but i think quality wise there both very simalar its all what fits best for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Whatever fits you best. Browning owners will tell you they are the best and Beretta owners will do the same. I have a Beretta and can't get on that well with Brownings or Mirokus, but having said that the Beretta had to be fitted to me and the others I tried were stock guns. Oh, and when abused Brownings rust like there is no tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Whatever fits you best.Browning owners will tell you they are the best and Beretta owners will do the same. I have a Beretta and can't get on that well with Brownings or Mirokus, but having said that the Beretta had to be fitted to me and the others I tried were stock guns. Oh, and when abused Brownings rust like there is no tomorrow i was avoiding saying that about beretta's lol. i know the 125 browning is know for it though........... the key been with either gun if you paying 1k plus look after it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'd have to echo the over-riding factor - gun fit! Having said that - I own both. I shoot a Browning Ultra XS Titanium for clays and have a Beretta 687 Silver Pigeon 20g for game. The advice I have always been given is that a Browning is not such an ideal gun to take into the field due to rust problems etc whereas Berettas will take quite a battering so to speak. Both of my guns fit me, and I wouldn't be without either so for me its pretty much tied between the two makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 As someone who is about to Buy thier 1st gun in the near future..ive been looking at these two makes..so this will be interesting to see what good or bad points from both guns come up with............... i was shown both ranges yesterday...and from a newcomer to the sport ....i couldnt make my mind up.... ( not that i had too at this point) i have seen two salesmen ...1 liked Beretta the other was a browning fan............ so all the good things were pointed out on both guns I found both guns had a nice finish to them, the Beretta ( silver pigeon) had chrome lined barrels...i was told this would stay cleaner longer and easier to clean without worrying about rust.... the weight was light and the whole feel of the gun was nice..... i was then handed the Browning 525 there was an immediate notice of weight difference, ( not mega) but this felt like a solid gun and i did like the feel of the stock..it had a nice grip to it.... they were both MC and they both did look stunning...i havn't shot either yet...but hope to in the not so far distance .... really looking forward to seeing the results on this one...and i hope ...the bad points get pointed out too john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 In all honesty it's all down to personal preference and i'm a firm believer in what's right for one of your shooting mates might not necessarily be right for you, so gun fit is of paramount importance. I shoot a Browning 525; a gun that was "recommended" to me when i first started out. I trusted the advice that i was given and purchased it from a local dealer mainly due to the type of shooting that i wanted to do, my build and the reputation of the brand. When i got the gun it fitted pretty well but the addition of a cheap as chips Cheek-eeze onto the stock made it fit like a glove Apart from a faulty firing pin in the first month that i owned it (which was replaced under warranty in next to know time) i haven't had any issues with it and would definitely recommend it to anyone thinking of getting one. That being said i would happily shoot a Beretta that fitted me too The only things that i wish i'd done differently would be to purchase one with an adjustable stock (to avoid needing the cheek-eeze) and maybe bought a higher grade of wood, but didn't really appreciate the aesthetic benefits of doing so at the time Sorry if you've just got more confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Ok;This Question will illicit lots of personal views...not sure mine will help you?... I presume you are looking at 12 gauge;Browning bigger in hand and feels more substantial.Beretta much slimmer/sleaker in the hand.Both work well if pointed in the right direction,some people point 1 make better than the other,Which are you? You need to go to a shooting ground and shoot both.You will know which you prefer as I feel they are so obviously different/ I have a Browning 425 in both 12 & 20 and a Beretta SP in 20.For me the Beretta's slim frame just looks and feels right in 20 bore But for ME not great in a 12.. I believe 8/10 new guns sold are now Beretta!! The rust thing is rubbish,both chromelined so ignore that as a factor. Both great guns/readily changeable/hold their values. If you like Browning also try Miroku Mk60/Mk70(same thing without the snob value),these are great guns. If you are going to be Mainly/All Clays 682 Beretta should be tried too(the more specialist Beretta Clay gun).. Firstly go and have 3 lessons with an instructor,you will learn a bit about fit/feel,you will try different guns(go to the biggest Clay ground near you they will have choice of guns)and there is No rush to buy a gun until you are really ready to buy (I know its all exciting but wait a bit..)!! Don't buy Grade 6s/gold inlay doodles at this point, get the basic guns,you can worry about Bling/upgrades later. Final tip is if you buy a Multichoke don;t EVER think changing chokes will make any difference to your shooting it does'nt and won't for years,buy a gun you like in your hands and which fits/the gun dealer will fit to you (and get a slip and cleaning kit included). I have gone through this choice/learning thing myself and twice recently with both my sons...in my opinion what you spend at this point on lessons is more important than what you spend on on your first gun..whatever make it is. all best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Brownings are inelegant stove pipes bought by people who secretly wished that they have saved their money and kept their trusty Baikal which in all respects would match a Browning but out performs a Browning by not rusting like a biatch. My vote goes to Beretta (if you couldn't tell by now) and when I bought my first shotgun (a trusty old 1984 Multichoke Silver Pigeon) I paid no attention to the rumour that Brownings were the gun of choice in the gay community. Each to their own and live and let live and all that, but I didn't want a bender's shotgun so gave Brownings a massive swerve. Obviously, respect to those of you brave enough to come out let the world know your sexual preference through your choice of gun and those of you comfortable enough with your own sexuality to shoot a round of clays with a Browning whilst wearing pink flip flops and dressed like Timmy Mallet. Good on ya - more women for the rest of us and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Ignore the comment about ignoring the comment about rusting, trust me they do, if I could get hold of the gun I would upload a picture for you but it isn't mine. By as coupe312 says look after then and they shouldn't. Either gun will last you a lifetime to be fair there are no serous bad points with either it is just personal preference. My 687 is now 20 years old and has probably fired between 20-30,000 cartridges and has only ever had the eject springs replaced. Competition shooters will have put 10 times that many through their guns, normally without any major issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 he is looking at a Browning 525,which is chromelined as are later 425s....having owned both Brownings/Berettas/shot in all conditions it is plain rubbish to say Browning rusts more than a Beretta. Clearly an abused gun is an abused gun and Stuart hangs out with shooters unable to look after their equipment.. Take or ignore whatever advice you wish I posted with a view to helping you. Mungler,methinks you don't just keep your Berettas in your closet....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Mungler,methinks you don't just keep your Berettas in your closet....... Well, there was a time before I was married..... I nearly went to a gun shop to try a Browning, but fortunately my love of the female form (and more particularly big knockers) kept me away from the darkside of Browning ownership. Mind you, whilst taking a dump in a service station on the M1 I did see scratched on the back of the gents' door "Sussex Dougall loves to slip a 32" Browning". I was less concerned to see this than to see Evil Elvis trying to hitch a lift to Ispwich with some lorry drivers, whilst dressed in a French Maid's outfit. Well, I was concerned but then I remembered he was a Cynergy owner. Edited September 8, 2009 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I have no preference either way really. I prefer the look of the Beretta over the Browning, but the only gun I've seen with rust recently was my mate's 12 month old Beretta Urika 2. Having said that, Ben Husthewaites K80 barrels are nothing but rust, no blueing left on them at all! These days it's not the inside of the barrel(s) you need to worry about, it's the outside. My mate never cleaned it, whereas I always give the barrels a quick wipe with a spray of Napier or Legier spray before putting in the safe. I'll do a full clean every month. Oh, ALWAYS spray and wipe the barrels if it's been wet, and spin out the chokes asap after shooting. I even go to the lengths of bringing a spare gunslip for the journey home if it's liking to rain while I'm shooting. Ya, I'm paranoid about my gun's condition... So, either or, you won't go far wrong with either given the basic care steps are taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Forget all that b0ll0cks and do what us sensible* people do, buy the gun that you like the look of the most, makes it a great deal easier. You can get any gun fitted to you after the fact Mark *Please note; The dictionary definition of sensible and my definition of sensible may vary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 he is looking at a Browning 525,which is chromelined as are later 425s....having owned both Brownings/Berettas/shot in all conditions it is plain rubbish to say Browning rusts more than a Beretta.Clearly an abused gun is an abused gun and Stuart hangs out with shooters unable to look after their equipment.. I 'hang out' with people who shoot in all conditions, rough, game and clay. They don't necessary abuse their guns, neither do I really, but I/they also don't run home straight after shooting (in it's spare slip ) and tuck there guns up in oil soaked cotton wool with a hot water bottle for good measure Guns do get put away in the boot of cars while shooters enjoy a beer on the way home, that is just real life, well my real life, clearly not everyones.. I have owned both and sold the Browning, I now only own a Berreta, I can't see where he says he is looking at 525. ..and fit and feel are way more important than looks, you tackle tarts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I was trying to help Jasper who was between a 525 & an SP.. Anyway please excuse my overly thought out answers what I really meant to say is just go and buy lots of guns, tons of kit do it all on a whim,go in every gunshop in every town and every game fair............that way you make all the same mistakes all the old lags on here have made but its a fun way to go through life!!! PS a Missus will buy ''I need a different gun for game than for clays''......beyond that you have to slip a few in the cabinet on the QT and/or have Kids who obviously need their own (opportunity to try nice 28/20 bores etc..). BUT and its a big BUT don't leave your insurance renewal out with list of the true collection!! A school boy error that has cost me shoes/cloths/holidays/car change............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I was trying to help Jasper who was between a 525 & an SP..Anyway please excuse my overly thought out answers what I really meant to say is just go and buy lots of guns, tons of kit do it all on a whim,go in every gunshop in every town and every game fair............that way you make all the same mistakes all the old lags on here have made but its a fun way to go through life!!! PS a Missus will buy ''I need a different gun for game than for clays''......beyond that you have to slip a few in the cabinet on the QT and/or have Kids who obviously need their own (opportunity to try nice 28/20 bores etc..). BUT and its a big BUT don't leave your insurance renewal out with list of the true collection!! A school boy error that has cost me shoes/cloths/holidays/car change............ Have you been spying on me? That is my shooting career in a nutshell. The only bit you missed was getting gear sent to the office so that she who must be obeyed doesn't catch wind of the expenditure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Have you been spying on me? That is my shooting career in a nutshell. The only bit you missed was getting gear sent to the office so that she who must be obeyed doesn't catch wind of the expenditure. Yep do that one. Have you also tried, "Oh that, its not mine its <insert shooting friends name>, i'm just 'looking after it' for him . . . . Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Wow !!! some fantastic answers there lads I know you are all right about the fit of the gun...... and i do feel that with either gun make i wouldn't need to change my sexual preference ...the Misse's wouldnt let me ...not that i would want to .... well it looks as though they are two fantastic makes and both have a good following.. I don't need the bling ... basic will be fine..yes i am looking at 12g I'm not worried about the rust issue as the gun will get cleaned after every trip..... (sorry army training) i will see if i can get to shoot both guns before buying and i will defo get some shotgun training.... I am off to a local clay shoot this sunday..just to have a look around and get some advice...i may even be able to add a vote to which gun is best many thanks lads john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 just one more thing...... I don't have the problem with buying things..as the misses would like to shoot too ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I have two of each brand. I voted Browning, as I like the poised balance and refinement of the B25, more than I like comparable Beretta 12b guns. However I think the 20b Beretta 687/Silver Pigeon kicks the backside out of the standard Browning 20-bores. So it's horses for courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I have owned a considerable number of Brownings - last one an XT - and own a Miroku MK38. I also own a Beretta 682E Gold and a Caesar Guerini. I think Brownings 9Miroku) give you more gun for the money, so that is where my vote went. I am using the 682 E Gold at the moment and like it. Both are top makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcw65 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Are we talking Brownings here [made in Belgium ] or Brownings made in Japan[Miroku]sold as Browning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Are we talking Brownings here [made in Belgium ] or Brownings made in Japan[Miroku]sold as Browning. k explain which is which. Isn't. The medalist Italian any how? Thought the rest were jap guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 k explain which is which. Isn't. The medalist Italian any how? Thought the rest were jap guns? i would n`t class anything other than a proper b25 as a browning. the others are made by miroku i think. handmade belgian brownings are fantastic guns and in a different league altogether.some folk may not appreciate me saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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