Thatguy Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hi guysIve been thinking about joining a club and eventually shooting on my friends farm with a .22lr. I Keep hearing about you can only buy a certain amountand hold a certain amount and that it changes between target ammo and hunting ammo. And they also keep a record of how much ammo you buy/use.Can someone please clarify pleaseThanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) also you need to apply for a moderator which they will say why do you need one if you are joining a shooting club Edited November 19, 2014 by Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Quite simply, on the application form you must state the maximum amount (number of bullets) of ammo you wish to keep at any one time. Target shooters are restricted to target ammo. For shooting quarry one is authorised to purchase and hold expanding ammo. The amounts you will be allowed to keep will depend on personal circumstances but for quarry 750 would be the norm and many more for target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 An amount is basically decide by the FAO at interview,the decision is based on intended usage,and other factors. The amount of ammo is broken into two parts. 1. Amount allowed to own ie total amount. 2.amount allowed to purchase. The amount allowed to own will be greater than the amount allowed to buy. Each time you purchase ammo it is entered on your FAC and at time of renewal the amounts are adjusted accordingly. I'm sure someone with a better explanation will be along shortly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Because you join a club it doesn't give you the right to shoot on land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) An amount is basically decide by the FAO at interview,the decision is based on intended usage,and other factors. The amount of ammo is broken into two parts. 1. Amount allowed to own ie total amount. 2.amount allowed to purchase. The amount allowed to own will be greater than the amount allowed to buy. Each time you purchase ammo it is entered on your FAC and at time of renewal the amounts are adjusted accordingly. I'm sure someone with a better explanation will be along shortly There are new rules Jim and the "newer type" certs dictate what you are allowed to hold not "buy". Edited November 19, 2014 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 There are new rules Jim and the "newer type" certs that only dictate what you are allowed to hold. Thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bone Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Just had interview for my FAC and as Whitebridges has rightly said it only ask`s for amount to hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 The amounts you will be allowed to keep will depend on personal circumstances but for quarry 750 would be the norm and many more for target Blimey I want your FEO, West Mercia have a table of guideline amounts they work from so I got 600 rf to include expanding and target! 250 each for the cf calibres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hi guys Ive been thinking about joining a club and eventually shooting on my friends farm with a .22lr. I Keep hearing about you can only buy a certain amount and hold a certain amount and that it changes between target ammo and hunting ammo. And they also keep a record of how much ammo you buy/use. Can someone please clarify please Thanks. You first need to make sure that the land has been passed by the police for use with .22lr. You can't just shoot there, even if your friend says you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 You first need to make sure that the land has been passed by the police for use with .22lr. You can't just shoot there, even if your friend says you can. Depends on your cert with an open cert you can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Depends on your cert with an open cert you can! Considering that the OP doesn't have any sort of FAC at present, that is a pretty irrelevant statement. I'd be frankly stunned if a grant on first FAC included open ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Considering that the OP doesn't have any sort of FAC at present, that is a pretty irrelevant statement. I'd be frankly stunned if a grant on first FAC included open ticket. Perhaps but not impossible and only a few years ago was the norm, he may permission on 10,000 acres. Fact is he doesn't have an FAC so until he does he won't knowwhat conditions are placed on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'd be frankly stunned if a grant on first FAC included open ticket. Everyone in North Yorkshire is open. I believe as is everyone in Scotland. Do these forces have more accidents? Not to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Back on topic. OP, I really wouldn't get too hung up on the ammo hold and buy amounts. Due to the fact you have to give good reason to own a S1 firearm, whereas the force have to prove why you shouldn't own a S2 Shotgun, the usage tables are really there to prove you're not buying a rifle and leaving it in the cabinet. I lost my .270 because I didn't buy any ammo for it and to be honest, it was down as a foxing rifle, which the new FLO found quite interesting. It's not a means of checking up on you, or trying to restrict how much you can shoot. If you think you'll need 1000 .22LR rounds for your day at the club, then ask for it. Five years down the line, if it's obvious you only buy a brick every month, they might lower your hold amount, but I honestly doubt that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 There is no provision for them to drop your allowance because you are not using the gun very much. A reduction in ammo allowance counts as a partial revocation of the certificate - refuse. If they insist get it in writing and challenge it. The 'standard' rimfire holding is 600 rounds. what id you only shoot 10 bunnies per year? It shouldn't matter. Many deer stalkers will not get through their whole allocation between renewals. There is no reason you can't have a .270 as a fox rifle. I know a farmer with a .22CF (can't remember the calibre) who has it for fox, but hasn't shot a fox in about 10 years. The local gamekeepers do a good job, BUT he's a sheep farmer and has the good reason of protecting his lambs. Good reason doesn't have to equal usage, so long as the good reason is real. I personally had a dry spell deerstalking - in about 10 paid stalks over 6 months I never shot a deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 There is no provision for them to drop your allowance because you are not using the gun very much. A reduction in ammo allowance counts as a partial revocation of the certificate - refuse. If they insist get it in writing and challenge it. The 'standard' rimfire holding is 600 rounds. what id you only shoot 10 bunnies per year? It shouldn't matter. Many deer stalkers will not get through their whole allocation between renewals. There is no reason you can't have a .270 as a fox rifle. I know a farmer with a .22CF (can't remember the calibre) who has it for fox, but hasn't shot a fox in about 10 years. The local gamekeepers do a good job, BUT he's a sheep farmer and has the good reason of protecting his lambs. Good reason doesn't have to equal usage, so long as the good reason is real. I personally had a dry spell deerstalking - in about 10 paid stalks over 6 months I never shot a deer. I only took the .270 because I could. It's a miserable round and not exactly subtle. I'll take the 22-250 over the 270 any day for a foxing round. IIRC I have a 1000/1500 on mine for the 22LR. Sometimes a good offer comes up on the bricks and knowing the local shops round here, they seem to think ordering a completely different and sometimes exotic crate of .22LRs is something we enjoy trying to overcome. So stocking up is always good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONAH898 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I have buy and hold 2000 .22lr on mine and 500 on my .357 and 45lc all for target shooting as you can get better deals buying in bigger bulk on the rimfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatguy Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 is there a particular online shop that's good (I know they have to ship to RFD) Or do u guys just buy the packs of 100 at you local gun store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I just buy locally. For some reloading supplies I'll make a special trip a couple of times a year, but most gun shops will get in particular ammo for you if requested. Online shopping for ammunition is a waste of time, imo - once you've paid any fees, any savings have been more than wiped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 is there a particular online shop that's good (I know they have to ship to RFD) Or do u guys just buy the packs of 100 at you local gun store? Depending on the brand, you can usually buy a 'brick' with 500 rounds in them. I've only ever bought them in 50 packs, but I'm sure the target rounds do come in packs of 100, if anyone would care to correct me! I don't know what your local RFD is like, but around here they're not too eager to buy rimfire rounds to suit your needs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 CCI do hundreds in handy plastic boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONAH898 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Cci mini mags come in 100 round plastic boxes and on bricks of 500 realy good round for target shooting and recommended for semi autos bit a little on loud side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 is there a particular online shop that's good (I know they have to ship to RFD) Or do u guys just buy the packs of 100 at you local gun store? American style packaging have eventually migrated here where you buy a singlar box containing 525 loose rounds. Blazer and CCI are two brands which spring to mind who do this,but they are just solids and not expanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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