digger Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Due to a change in circumstances I am after a car and have always liked the 156. As far as I am aware they are quite a decnt car as long as the cam belt is changed and the varitor is monitored. Plenty of decent ones about in the £2 - 3 k bracket with all the toys and leather. Looking at the Tourismo estate version of the 150bhp 1.8 or the diesel. Any of you had good / bad experience with them ? LB, should I avoid? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I looked at Alphas but was told that spares were and issue and a lot of garages wouldnt touch them (service items were ok but big jobs and the like) But thats what i was told..but i always liked them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petethegeek Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Jason Dawe featured the 159 in his used car review in the Sunday Times this week. Looking through the archives there's also this one on the 156, but it's from May 2004. They might be worth a quick read through though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersj89 Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Have a read here: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?md=7 Alfa Romeo 156 (1998 - 2005) Good: Stunning looks, fabulous engines, V6s are lots of fun. Bad: Mechanical problems and not as well built as it should be. Tyre wear on V6 models. What's Good Fabulous styling by Walter d'Silva (not Giugiaro this time). Brilliant engines. 1.8 and 2.0 litre Twin-Sparks are great. 190 bhp 24v 2.5 V6 is a real hooligan. All have 'Quick-Rack' steering. Handling well up to the job with Sports packs; less good without. 4,430mm (14' 6") long x 11,745mm (5' 9") wide. 3-year warranty. 2.0 litre Selaspeed with thumb operated gearchange buttons on steering wheel works very well on country roads, but less satisfactory in town. 'Q' system V6 is a full automatic. Gruff but grunty 136 bhp 2.4JTD arrived in Summer 1999, offering 224 lb. ft. torque. Sport 1 spec adds carbon fibre console, bodykit, 16in alloys with 205/55 tyres, sports suspension and 'Blitz' cloth trim. Sport 2 spec adds Recaro front seats. Sport 3 spec adds Momo leather. £13,495 120 bhp 1.6TS in UK from Spring 2000. All prices cut from same date with 1.8TS down to £15,405. Sportwagon semi setaton wagon launched at the same time. And different immobiliser system banished problems of lost 'Red Keys'. In June 2002 Alfa Romeo announced 156s with its new 165bhp 2.0 litre JTS direct injection petrol engine. The 2.4 litre 156 JTD direct injection diesel got a power hike to 150bhp. And first imports of the blisteringly fast 250bhp 3.2 litre GTA started to arrive. JTS stands for Jet Thrust Stoichiometric. Alfa abandoned twin spark plugs in favour of directly injecting the fuel air mixture to the combustion chamber, running at lean burn to 1,500rpm and a stoichiometric 14.7:1 air:fuel mixture thereafter. Compression ration is raised to 11.3:1, power is up 15bhp and torque up 18 lb ft. 156 JTSs start at £17,720 for the saloon and £18,820 for the Sportwagon. Revised mapping pulled the 5-cylinder JTD up from 140bhp to 150bhp at 4,000rpm and torque to 225lb ft at 1,800rpm. Fuel economy is slightly improved at 42.8 mpg on the combined cycle v/s 42.1 mpg from the 140bhp JTD. 156 JTDs start at £17,835 for the saloon and £18,930 for the Sportwagon. Awe-inspiring 3,179cc GTA V6 pumps out a class leading 250bhp at 6,200rpm and 221 lb ft torque at 4,800rpm. GTA prices start at £26,900 for the saloon and £27,900 for the Sportwagon. VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) is fitted to all post June 2002 156s except the GTA. New range distinguished from older cars by new central console switches for the climate control incorporating LED pictograms. Range prices start with the 1.6 Turismo at £14,610. Thankfully they didn't mess around with the stunning exterior styling of the car. One reader has reported 100% reliability from his Selaspeed box for 12,000 miles. 115bhp 1.9JTD diesel from mid March 2003 does 0-60 in 10.0 seconds, emits 155g/km CO2 and offers 48.7mpg. Prices of 1.9JTD from £15,590. Sharper, very successful facelift on sale in UK September 2003 made a beautiful car stunning (pix 4,5 and 6). 192bhp 2.5V6 dropped. 175bhp, 284lb ft torque common rail 2.4JTD added; does 0-60 in 7.5 secs, 140mph and 42.8mpg combined. 5 year or 60,000 mile warranty from January 2004. More at www.alfaromeo.co.uk Usergroup: www.alfaowner.com Club link www.aroc-uk.com Last updated 9-9-2008 What's Bad Police Alert' spoilers optional on Sport 2 and Sport 3 spec will attract plod. Sub-20 mpg fuel consumption of V6 if you boot it. Trim quality not up to BMW standards. 5-speed gearchange on 1.8 and 2.0 can feel a bit floppy. Turn-in not as sharp as Peugeot 306 GTi-6 or even 406 2.0 litre Coupe. Usual Alfa build-quality problems with electrics. Fuel enrichment device may stick, leading to poor starting. Dealers are a very mixed bag. Resale values fell heavily in early 2000 even before price cuts. Petrol consumption on the twin spark engines is not brilliant - typically between 25 and 30mpg on the open road. Oil consumption is quite high on the TS engines -and they can use as much as 1 litre every 600 miles (like the old 105 Series). FIAT/Alfa joint worst for breakdowns attended by German ADAC during 2001. 9th from Bottom of 100 models for reliability in Auto Express 2002 survey. 18th from Bottom in 144 car 2002 JD Power / What Car? Customer Satisfaction Survey of V and W reg cars. Alfa Romeo had joint highest average cost in warranty claims for cars up to 10 years old in 2002 Warranty Direct index Joint fourth bottom in 2002 Which reliability survey of cars up to 2 years old; 74 cars surveyed. Alfa Romeo 2nd least reliable of 31 makes of car in 2002 'Which?' reliability survey cars 2000 - 2002; 3rd least reliable cars 1997 - 1999. Only 87% breakdown free in 2003 Which survey. Alfa Romeo had fourth highest warranty repair costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 155.10 v/s lowest 31.93). 98-2000 average for breakdowns and faults and poor for problems; 2001-2003 average for breakdowns and poor for problems and faults in 2003 Which survey. 7th from bottom out of 137 models in 2003 Top Gear survey. 156 8th bottom model and Alfa Romeo bottom marque in 2004 JD Power Customer Satisfaction Survey. Alfa Romeo 5th bottom of Reliability Index for 2004 combining average cost of repair of £392.88 with high 39.55 failures per 100 Warranty Direct policies. Link:- www.reliabilityindex.co.uk Came 16th from bottom in 2005 JD Power/What Car Survey of 23,000 cars reg Sep 2002 to Aug 2003 with satisfaction score of 74.7% What to Watch Out For Worn front tyres on V6. Front suspension alignment, in particular toe-out is critical. V6 and JDT can eat front tyres on the inside edge (need realiging with less toe-out). You have to laser-align the wheels on the 156. It needs to be set up exactly. All 4 wheels can be adjusted. Needs a '4 way laser alignment' by www.alignmycar.co.uk Very useful site for tips and fault finding: www.alfa156.net Air conditioning condensor vulnerable to stone damage. Bosch 'hot film' Mass Airflow Sensors seem to be failing regularly. Check for Accident damage, kerbed alloys. Make sure aircon works properly. Feel the discs through the wheels for scoring or shouldering. Paint problems with solid lacquered black. Worrying number of 2.0 litre engine failures due to oil starvation when engines were full of oil points a finger at oil pump failure. Timing belt failures of 4 cylinder twin sparks extremely common. Need new belts and tensoners every 35k - 40k miles or every 4 years whichever comes first. See TSB to change them at 36k. On 1.9JTDM timing belt drives waterpump and waterpump failure can fling it off in as little as 40k miles, wrecking the engine. Problems with 156 Selaspeed gearbox actuator and long wait for replacement parts. 'Tappety' sounding engine sign that car has been run with low or dirty oil and variable valve timing has been damaged. Make sure engine has specified oil pressure. Clonks from rear suspension mean that bolts through the aluminium suspension components have not been tightened periodically causing wear and replacement bushes take a long time to arrive. Stoned glass headlight lenses cost £175 each to replace. Take care to grease bonnet catch regularly as vulnerable to road spray and the safety catch can stick open. Bonnet may then fly open and wrap itself around the windscreem. 2.4 JTDs prone to cracking their alloy sumps on speed humps. Check for damage before buying, especially drain plug. Seems to be a braking problem on diesels, which have a vacuum pump for the brake servo assistance: can feel like total failure of brakes, but only happens intermittently. Replacing master cylinder has cured it in some cases. On 1.9 JTD if the engine smokes or the car suddenly loses power, the secondary butterflies of the swirl actuator valve may have sooted up and seized. Possible to clean but this does not guarantee it won't happen again. Really requires the inlet manifold to be changed as the part where the actuator connects to jams and does not let the butterflies open. Job can take six hours as the fuel pump and cam belt have to be removed to get at it. A coincedental fault is sooting up of the EGR valve. Radiator, steering rack, and front wishbones all also commonly fail. Clutch, clutch release bearing, and gearbox input shaft bearing also common failures. Gonella Bros of Catford good 156 specialist. Alfaman Services, 235 Imperial Drive, Rayners Lane, London HA2 7HE. Alfa 156 steering rack issue: The bushes at each track rod end of the rack wear, producing a knocking noise over bumps. (Often confused with worn drop links or wishbone bearings.) Eventually, the steering reaction becomes sloppy. Fiat/Alfa don't supply the bushes separately, so a garage will typically recommend a rack replacement to solve the problem. Alfaman have a stock of steering rack bushes, which I think have been made by a local engineering company. Alfaman Services, 235 Imperial Drive, Rayners Lane, London HA2 7HE. Owners should contact them for a quote, replacing the bushes rather than the whole rack should save quite a lot of money. Typical rack replacement £400 + VAT. Recalls June 1999: Safety recall No 4054: Modify rear hinge mounting on all four side doors to prevent hinges splitting from doors. 2000: 156, built Nov '97-Oct '98: Brake pipe connector may crack and leak. September 2002: TSB issued to change timing belts and tensioners at 36,000 miles rather than 72,000 miles. 2-8-2002: Due to engine movement fuel delivery pipe from pump to inector rail may become strained and leak. Two extra support clips to be fitted. 73 cars affected (JTD's?); 1-10-2002: Metal brake pipe between master cylinder and ABS unit may chafe on a cable bracket. Check pipes and renew if damaged. 256 cars affected. 11-8-2003: Front suspension may loosen. Need to be replaced on 213 cars ZAR932---180021 to 229169 and 1253019 to 1316857. November 2004: TSB issued to dealers to check bonnet catch and bonnet safety catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I have had two Alfas from new in the past - a 155 2.5 V6 and a 146 2.0ti. Both were quick and reliable and came with all the toys, and (10 years ago) Alfas were relatively uncommon unlike BMW 3 series! As long as you have a FIAT dealer nearby servicing should not be a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_B Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 My wife has an alfa romeo 145 ts ...its a labour of love for me keeping it on the road ,it used to be my mothers from new and was taken on by my wife when my mother passed away....PROBLEMS....window wipers only work on super fast speed....the wiring is a mess, bares no resemblance to the wiring diagram supplied by alfa...the drivers door needs hinge bolts tightened every few months ...to prevent it falling off...it wreaks trailing arm bushes once a year(may be wifes driving)...and the floor has started to rot...its a T reg 1999 with 30k on the clock.....BUT and this is a biggy....it handles better than my WRX PPP sounds sweat as a nut and for a 1.6 ..goes like smelly of a shovel.. PS spark plugs x8 = 120 quid ....ouch !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 they are supposed to have numerous electrical problems. reportedly a lovely car to drive but the depreciation would make me stay well clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 my uncle had 1 and within 6 months he got rid and said never again.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Have a read here: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?md=7 Alfa Romeo 156 (1998 - 2005) Good: Stunning looks, fabulous engines, V6s are lots of fun. Bad: Mechanical problems and not as well built as it should be. Tyre wear on V6 models. What's Good Fabulous styling by Walter d'Silva (not Giugiaro this time). Brilliant engines. 1.8 and 2.0 litre Twin-Sparks are great. 190 bhp 24v 2.5 V6 is a real hooligan. All have 'Quick-Rack' steering. Handling well up to the job with Sports packs; less good without. 4,430mm (14' 6") long x 11,745mm (5' 9") wide. 3-year warranty. 2.0 litre Selaspeed with thumb operated gearchange buttons on steering wheel works very well on country roads, but less satisfactory in town. 'Q' system V6 is a full automatic. Gruff but grunty 136 bhp 2.4JTD arrived in Summer 1999, offering 224 lb. ft. torque. Sport 1 spec adds carbon fibre console, bodykit, 16in alloys with 205/55 tyres, sports suspension and 'Blitz' cloth trim. Sport 2 spec adds Recaro front seats. Sport 3 spec adds Momo leather. £13,495 120 bhp 1.6TS in UK from Spring 2000. All prices cut from same date with 1.8TS down to £15,405. Sportwagon semi setaton wagon launched at the same time. And different immobiliser system banished problems of lost 'Red Keys'. In June 2002 Alfa Romeo announced 156s with its new 165bhp 2.0 litre JTS direct injection petrol engine. The 2.4 litre 156 JTD direct injection diesel got a power hike to 150bhp. And first imports of the blisteringly fast 250bhp 3.2 litre GTA started to arrive. JTS stands for Jet Thrust Stoichiometric. Alfa abandoned twin spark plugs in favour of directly injecting the fuel air mixture to the combustion chamber, running at lean burn to 1,500rpm and a stoichiometric 14.7:1 air:fuel mixture thereafter. Compression ration is raised to 11.3:1, power is up 15bhp and torque up 18 lb ft. 156 JTSs start at £17,720 for the saloon and £18,820 for the Sportwagon. Revised mapping pulled the 5-cylinder JTD up from 140bhp to 150bhp at 4,000rpm and torque to 225lb ft at 1,800rpm. Fuel economy is slightly improved at 42.8 mpg on the combined cycle v/s 42.1 mpg from the 140bhp JTD. 156 JTDs start at £17,835 for the saloon and £18,930 for the Sportwagon. Awe-inspiring 3,179cc GTA V6 pumps out a class leading 250bhp at 6,200rpm and 221 lb ft torque at 4,800rpm. GTA prices start at £26,900 for the saloon and £27,900 for the Sportwagon. VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) is fitted to all post June 2002 156s except the GTA. New range distinguished from older cars by new central console switches for the climate control incorporating LED pictograms. Range prices start with the 1.6 Turismo at £14,610. Thankfully they didn't mess around with the stunning exterior styling of the car. One reader has reported 100% reliability from his Selaspeed box for 12,000 miles. 115bhp 1.9JTD diesel from mid March 2003 does 0-60 in 10.0 seconds, emits 155g/km CO2 and offers 48.7mpg. Prices of 1.9JTD from £15,590. Sharper, very successful facelift on sale in UK September 2003 made a beautiful car stunning (pix 4,5 and 6). 192bhp 2.5V6 dropped. 175bhp, 284lb ft torque common rail 2.4JTD added; does 0-60 in 7.5 secs, 140mph and 42.8mpg combined. 5 year or 60,000 mile warranty from January 2004. More at www.alfaromeo.co.uk Usergroup: www.alfaowner.com Club link www.aroc-uk.com Last updated 9-9-2008 What's Bad Police Alert' spoilers optional on Sport 2 and Sport 3 spec will attract plod. Sub-20 mpg fuel consumption of V6 if you boot it. Trim quality not up to BMW standards. 5-speed gearchange on 1.8 and 2.0 can feel a bit floppy. Turn-in not as sharp as Peugeot 306 GTi-6 or even 406 2.0 litre Coupe. Usual Alfa build-quality problems with electrics. Fuel enrichment device may stick, leading to poor starting. Dealers are a very mixed bag. Resale values fell heavily in early 2000 even before price cuts. Petrol consumption on the twin spark engines is not brilliant - typically between 25 and 30mpg on the open road. Oil consumption is quite high on the TS engines -and they can use as much as 1 litre every 600 miles (like the old 105 Series). FIAT/Alfa joint worst for breakdowns attended by German ADAC during 2001. 9th from Bottom of 100 models for reliability in Auto Express 2002 survey. 18th from Bottom in 144 car 2002 JD Power / What Car? Customer Satisfaction Survey of V and W reg cars. Alfa Romeo had joint highest average cost in warranty claims for cars up to 10 years old in 2002 Warranty Direct index Joint fourth bottom in 2002 Which reliability survey of cars up to 2 years old; 74 cars surveyed. Alfa Romeo 2nd least reliable of 31 makes of car in 2002 'Which?' reliability survey cars 2000 - 2002; 3rd least reliable cars 1997 - 1999. Only 87% breakdown free in 2003 Which survey. Alfa Romeo had fourth highest warranty repair costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 155.10 v/s lowest 31.93). 98-2000 average for breakdowns and faults and poor for problems; 2001-2003 average for breakdowns and poor for problems and faults in 2003 Which survey. 7th from bottom out of 137 models in 2003 Top Gear survey. 156 8th bottom model and Alfa Romeo bottom marque in 2004 JD Power Customer Satisfaction Survey. Alfa Romeo 5th bottom of Reliability Index for 2004 combining average cost of repair of £392.88 with high 39.55 failures per 100 Warranty Direct policies. Link:- www.reliabilityindex.co.uk Came 16th from bottom in 2005 JD Power/What Car Survey of 23,000 cars reg Sep 2002 to Aug 2003 with satisfaction score of 74.7% What to Watch Out For Worn front tyres on V6. Front suspension alignment, in particular toe-out is critical. V6 and JDT can eat front tyres on the inside edge (need realiging with less toe-out). You have to laser-align the wheels on the 156. It needs to be set up exactly. All 4 wheels can be adjusted. Needs a '4 way laser alignment' by www.alignmycar.co.uk Very useful site for tips and fault finding: www.alfa156.net Air conditioning condensor vulnerable to stone damage. Bosch 'hot film' Mass Airflow Sensors seem to be failing regularly. Check for Accident damage, kerbed alloys. Make sure aircon works properly. Feel the discs through the wheels for scoring or shouldering. Paint problems with solid lacquered black. Worrying number of 2.0 litre engine failures due to oil starvation when engines were full of oil points a finger at oil pump failure. Timing belt failures of 4 cylinder twin sparks extremely common. Need new belts and tensoners every 35k - 40k miles or every 4 years whichever comes first. See TSB to change them at 36k. On 1.9JTDM timing belt drives waterpump and waterpump failure can fling it off in as little as 40k miles, wrecking the engine. Problems with 156 Selaspeed gearbox actuator and long wait for replacement parts. 'Tappety' sounding engine sign that car has been run with low or dirty oil and variable valve timing has been damaged. Make sure engine has specified oil pressure. Clonks from rear suspension mean that bolts through the aluminium suspension components have not been tightened periodically causing wear and replacement bushes take a long time to arrive. Stoned glass headlight lenses cost £175 each to replace. Take care to grease bonnet catch regularly as vulnerable to road spray and the safety catch can stick open. Bonnet may then fly open and wrap itself around the windscreem. 2.4 JTDs prone to cracking their alloy sumps on speed humps. Check for damage before buying, especially drain plug. Seems to be a braking problem on diesels, which have a vacuum pump for the brake servo assistance: can feel like total failure of brakes, but only happens intermittently. Replacing master cylinder has cured it in some cases. On 1.9 JTD if the engine smokes or the car suddenly loses power, the secondary butterflies of the swirl actuator valve may have sooted up and seized. Possible to clean but this does not guarantee it won't happen again. Really requires the inlet manifold to be changed as the part where the actuator connects to jams and does not let the butterflies open. Job can take six hours as the fuel pump and cam belt have to be removed to get at it. A coincedental fault is sooting up of the EGR valve. Radiator, steering rack, and front wishbones all also commonly fail. Clutch, clutch release bearing, and gearbox input shaft bearing also common failures. Gonella Bros of Catford good 156 specialist. Alfaman Services, 235 Imperial Drive, Rayners Lane, London HA2 7HE. Alfa 156 steering rack issue: The bushes at each track rod end of the rack wear, producing a knocking noise over bumps. (Often confused with worn drop links or wishbone bearings.) Eventually, the steering reaction becomes sloppy. Fiat/Alfa don't supply the bushes separately, so a garage will typically recommend a rack replacement to solve the problem. Alfaman have a stock of steering rack bushes, which I think have been made by a local engineering company. Alfaman Services, 235 Imperial Drive, Rayners Lane, London HA2 7HE. Owners should contact them for a quote, replacing the bushes rather than the whole rack should save quite a lot of money. Typical rack replacement £400 + VAT. Recalls June 1999: Safety recall No 4054: Modify rear hinge mounting on all four side doors to prevent hinges splitting from doors. 2000: 156, built Nov '97-Oct '98: Brake pipe connector may crack and leak. September 2002: TSB issued to change timing belts and tensioners at 36,000 miles rather than 72,000 miles. 2-8-2002: Due to engine movement fuel delivery pipe from pump to inector rail may become strained and leak. Two extra support clips to be fitted. 73 cars affected (JTD's?); 1-10-2002: Metal brake pipe between master cylinder and ABS unit may chafe on a cable bracket. Check pipes and renew if damaged. 256 cars affected. 11-8-2003: Front suspension may loosen. Need to be replaced on 213 cars ZAR932---180021 to 229169 and 1253019 to 1316857. November 2004: TSB issued to dealers to check bonnet catch and bonnet safety catch. Plenty of reasons here not to buy one . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townie Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I've had my 156 for a year and it's a joy to drive. I find myself taking the long way round just for the pleasure of driving it. Passengers tell me the seats are very comfortable. Alfa seem to have ironed out the problems on the later ones and I wouldn't take the stories about electrics and reliability too seriously. There are problems with any car and don't forget that the 156 was introduced 10 years ago, so there are some old ones about. I take mine to Gonnella Brothers in Catford (not far from you in Croydon) and they are reasonable - £100 for an intermediate service, £200 for a big service. I checked the price of Kingham's in Croydon and they were considerably dearer. Just make sure the cam belt has been replaced every three years. Look at these two websites:http://forum.alfa156.net/forum and http://www.alfaowner.com/aohome.php Just don't get a BMW or an Audi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I had a 156 for 6 month great car but paid 10K for it 6 months later sold it for 6K the prices drop faster than a tarts knickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayward Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) I found this funny in sanders post (Take care to grease bonnet catch regularly as vulnerable to road spray and the safety catch can stick open. Bonnet may then fly open and wrap itself around the windscreen) Have a look @ item no 230299404544 on that dreaded Auction site �895 2002 52 ALFA ROMEO 156 T SPARK TURISMO November 2004: TSB issued to dealers to check bonnet catch and bonnet safety catch. Edited October 15, 2008 by jayward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) My brother has had a second hand 1.6l 147 for a few years now (always buy them second hand so the depreciation isn't as bad and some faults may have been worked out) and the only major thing to go wrong is the rear suspension needed some work on it (cant remember the details). Ok the airbag warning light keeps coming on but that isnt a big deal however he was recently quoted about £700 for a service and a new cam belt so you might want to check into the cost of that before you buy one Other than that it is a great car with a great interior, comfortable seats, looks nice and sounds even better plus there is nothing like beating more expensive cars off the line Edited October 15, 2008 by Northerner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Due to a change in circumstances I am after a car and have always liked the 156. As far as I am aware they are quite a decnt car as long as the cam belt is changed and the varitor is monitored. Plenty of decent ones about in the £2 - 3 k bracket with all the toys and leather. Looking at the Tourismo estate version of the 150bhp 1.8 or the diesel. Any of you had good / bad experience with them ? LB, should I avoid? Thanks. No Digger, I look after quite a few Alfas due to the main dealers hourly rate and all the rust/electrical problems seem to have dissapeared over the years. Love the diesel one but remember to drive it hard as it thrives on right foot abuse Seriously good looking car as well LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAN88 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Throw away cars mate,that expensive to repair but fantastic styling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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