Raja Clavata

Shouldn’t laugh but 😂😆

Rachel from accounts, lol 👍

The guy is a clown and anyone entertaining it is a muppet. There comes a time when enough is enough.

A 15 year old girl, what in the world…

I was referring to the good with numbers point.

Not standing up for lefties but that’s a pretty ridiculous thing to state, even by your standards 😂

Agreed, particularly on the plight of the Kurds.

Very real risk. I don’t endorse the £50M but we haven’t just dropped it into Abu Mo al-Julsni’s PayPal account, have we? I understood the money has been sent through the likes of the UN and is at least in part aimed at managing the ensuing refugee crisis. I’m not suggesting it’s a good ROI but the international community needed to do something. Could it be that local refugee processing might reduce the number who roll up on our beaches in the long run, I don’t know, just thinking out loud…

I used to be a regular attendee in my previous employment as it’s long established as the biggest Auto show on the planet. Was there this year for the first time in a while and returning Jan 6th. It’s a bitter sweet experience for me, if you don’t go you feel like you’re missing out and when you do go you wonder what the heck you’re doing in Las Vegas, with all these people, so early in the new year. Anyone else ever been and had similar feelings?

Beyond my reservations about Rwanda I agree. It seems to be a systemic cross party failure. Whilst Farage and co. appear committed to solve the issue one does wonder what other issues they’d create if placed in a position of power to do so.

Thanks for clarifying but what other choices were there? It’s not a popular concept but I do sometimes wonder what kind of state we’d be in if there was no illegal nor legal immigration into the UK. Things would be different for sure, difficult to see how they’d be much better, likely just a different set f problems. We have an aging population and low birth rates, and we are far from alone in these issues.

Thanks for sharing the details and correcting my assumption. I can’t imagine what that must have been like for your mother.

So you think the previous Tory and current Labour government are not addressing illegal immigration in order to punish us for voting leave even though apparently we only left in name only? Sounds a bit conspiracy theorist-tastic to me, or at the very least like there’s a bunch of really confused people within the British public.

I don’t see this conflation, I see plenty remainers saying Brexit hasn’t fixed the illegal immigration problem like it was promised to do. I do believe Brexit has led higher levels of legal immigration from people outside of the EU. Pretty sure the published numbers support this point too. It’s really important to distinguish between legal and illegal immigration in such discussions, but hey you already know that.

I mean both sides having to reiterate their position and justify it for the umpteenth time. I have no doubt that you personally knew what you were voting for but in the majority, Brexit was won on immigration and look how well that’s gone. I accept Brexit is done and would vote against us rejoining the EU if a vote was put to the public again but I don’t recall seeing anyone on here who voted for Brexit admitting they feel like they were misled and now regret doing so. This is in stark contrast to the real world and the circle of friends who I know of which many leavers now concede it was a bad idea.