Browning

As long as they are happy with food, water and shelter, and not being harrased, they will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get back. If nothing changes over the boundary then it looks like these birds are gone for the season. I would look forward to next year and look at changing things on your shoot to try and stop it happening again.

Good answers by anser2. One thing I would say is don't start shooting too early in the season, especially if it's been a poor breeding summer like the past two years, and limit your days, give them time to recover and settle down after you shoot. I never shoot more than once a fortnight on my rough shoot, and even then I rarely shoot the same beats. This means I have birds around all season.

DD, The Bazanty originates from Poland and, as you say, is renowned for being a good flyer. They also hold quite well and are a good bird to start with. Lots of game farms can supply Bazanty birds, and I think many of the general 'ring necked' birds have Bazanty cross in them.

I use a 75gn V-Max (which does 3400fps, very very good for chasing down Mr Fox...)

38.5 is Hodgdon recommended max load for their Varget powder.

2000+ rounds through my first A-Tec helped make my mind up on the second and third purchases. No single sound mod will tick ALL the boxes, my preference for the A-Tec was a personal decision, and the second and third purchases were based on research which included taking advice from a good pal who is a very knowlegable riflesmith, and did some rather intense testing of different mods. So no, they didn't 'see me coming', I actually looked them up, which puts a completely different view on things.

Sorry to read this Olly. I know it's tough but you did the right thing by her. You're a credit to all hunters young fella. Keep up the good work.

I emailed the CPSA when the car went back up informing them of my thoughts. (Del Boy stylee) I did receive a response, which said that I, along with ONE other, were the only two members that had complained about the car being on the site. I guess they are quite happy to openly lie to their members as well. (Ex member, I will not be rejoining)

I have three...I like them I always remove them from the rifle after use, and zero is not affected on refitting. Sound moderation (In my opinion) is as good as the T8 I used to run on the same rifle (.243). Although different rifles will moderate differently. I did hear of one loosening up inside, but that was because the gunsmith that fitted it didn't tighten the threaded nut up correctly. I always strip mine and studlock the nut in place. If you're interested PM me and I'll send you the contact details of the lad that imports them.

Why not variate the moderator slot for the FAC air rifle and keep the .308? If you then need the .308 for the odd outing you already have it, minus the mod.

My daughter and her husband were there as part of their honeymoon only last week. Luckily they moved onto the Maldives at the weekend so missed the trouble. It still sent a shiver down my back when I watched the news last night, too close for comfort.

I suspect that is what will happen in a large number of cases, just as the banks in the past haven't always passed on interest rate cuts to their customers, there is no reason why shop keepers etc have to pass on the 2.5% VAT cut to their customers.

My local gamedealer is being 'suggested to' that all game will need to be supplied by 'trained hunters' shortly. If he does bow down to pressure I will be stuck with no local outlet for my birds.

Thanks Malc, I've already tried BASC. Problem is distance with both of the dates available but I may have to bite the bullet and do it anyway.

Hi All, I need to get on a Wild Game Meat Hygiene course as soon as possible. Does anyone happen to know of any courses scheduled around the midlands? The only one I can find is Somerset and I really don't want to travel for 3 hours and 160 miles each way if I can help it......

I haven't had either of those issues with any of my A-Tec mods, and the one on my .243 has had in excess of 2000 rounds through it. Also, having shot my.270 with a T8 and with an A-Tec, I can guarantee that the sound moderating capability of the A-Tec is just as good as the T8.

Stu, I had the same problem with the T8 on my .270, it lasted 18 months. I now have an A-Tec and find the moderation just as good as the T8, and the repeatability after removal and refitting is spot on, no zero shift at all. I like the A-Tec mod so much I now have one on each of my three rifles.

Sound advice from the lads above. One thing I will say is make absolutely certain that you have the time to dedicate to your dog. Regular daily excercise is a must. Keep your training sessions short and regular (10/15 mins every day rather than 2 hours at the weekend). Start now and build up a massive store of patience....you will need it. Good luck with him/her.

I don't look at posts with pictures attached and headings along the lines of:- "Last nights outing" "Lots of foxes" "Lots of rabbits" "Out last night" "Fox pics (Graphic)" "Fox v .223" I've seen more than my share of shot vermin and over the years I've come to the conclusion....They all look the same!!!

Tough times Kev. Don't let the ******** grind you down mate.

I ran 48.5grains Hodgdon H4831SC behind a 130gn Sierra Gameking, lit by Federal 210 primer, .01" off lands gave me sub 3/4" @ 100yds all day through my Tikka T3.

Harry, PM me nearer the time, we'll sort something out.