Sweet11-87

Most home office approved clubs upon application ask the police if you have an previous and if it would or wouldn't be wise to grant you membership. then you usually have to take part in an induction/firearms safety course and satisfy the club. If all goes well then you will enter a 6 month probation period, once complete THEN the police will entertain a firearms application. applying before the probation period is over is unlikely to be successful and applying without being a member on intent alone is 99.9% sure to get refused almost immediately. most clubs have access to club firearms and you can buy and use ammo aslong as it doesn't leave the premises so if you are intrested in shooting and wish to do a bit target practice you can scratch the itch until youre granted an FAC. to save confusion use references that arnt related to you in any form, and as far as im aware no profession will speed up the process.

great idea squeeze more people out of the sport and impose more restrictive rules

aw for sure, from a blank slate im in agreement with you but, the OP has a just got his 17hmr so a new rifle in a totally new caliber plus variation and land approval might not be viable. as he asked about a more suitable ammo for his current setup

canadas probably weight close to the same as a fox, and youve got thick feathers breast meat then a solid breastbone, clearly youve made it work but i think you might be asking allot of the 17hmr. id probably look down the route of a heavier 20gr round thats designed to go a little bit deeper instead of the 17gr balistic tip stuff.

i get what youre saying but i agree with udderly, the "english best" was at one point the best for sure but lets be honest like everything times have changed, for a fraction of what people claim theyre worth you can get a gun thats made of modern metals, ergonomically superior, using the latest barrel technology, mulit choked and future proofed for non toxic shot, with a warranty AND still hand finished and engraved for a unique and personal touch. the nostalgia of grandads gun is now generations further along

unrelated but kind of the same. during lock down i played the game and didnt go out, when it lifted i headed to a permission id had since the dawn of my shooting days with an air rifle. honestly dog walkers had increased about 10 fold and having the public walk about is just not what i want in a permission plus the dogs running about off the lead did a fantastic job of keeping the birds moving. ive not been back in about 2 years actively let it go. said to myself on the day "this is my last time up here" i feel i miss the harvest and the drill given that they tend to do it now in the space of a couple of days and the perms ive got always seem to harvest on Monday and drill a day or 2 later, come the weekend its all over. said it loads of times on here now decoying for me over the past 5 years or so have been pretty much a disaster. me and the local lads i talk to are just not getting the activity anymore.

the US is very overkill same as the continent. 36g 5 and 4s sold as pigeon/dove cartridges

i think they've nailed the gun control issue by squeezing it at the source. how many people who were potentially going to get into shooting only to then kick it into touch when they realized the time between application and grant is on average about 18 months......... unless you've got someone who is willing to company you and lend you a gun youd just get a different hobby. been nearly 3 years since lockdown lifted. im not buying the backlog excuse anymore. not like they need gun control, like you say and ive just said on another thread its mostly old boys that shoot, bit doom and gloom but time comes for us all. 20-30 years and gun ownership will have fallen off a cliff in the uk then they'll just ban it all together and the voice against it will be just so irrelevantly small it wont even put up a fight

i usually use a mid range 28g cartridge for clays like olympic blues or sporting 100, but we went out as a group today and took our lasses with us and we all just used 21g eley selects and honestly its comical how little recoil they have but they were still killing everything within "normal range through quarter and half, when a simple chip is marked as a break it might be the way forward...obviously they become a bit of a dice role on the further away stuff with a thin pattern. a ground near me do a 24g true 7 and got me thinking could that be the perfect decoy cartridge.

young families, cost of living crisis, application to grant time running beyond months into years, modern farming practices, bananas weather, cartridge prices sky rocketing ...take your pick might just be me but my permissions haven't really produced for a few years now, genuinely have more enjoyment and consistency doing a short sharp roost shoot after work but another month or so and that will be it. i really struggle to decoy well these days, im glad ive got pretty much every other type of shooting to fall back on having said that if a post like this came up near me id be all over it.

thats hard lines mate, especially if the conditions not caused issues in the past and youre just trying to improve professionally. id suggest joining BASC however id be surprised if they entertained it as it would be seen as you only joining to benefit after the fact so to speak. id also do what is recommended above and chase it higher up. i think if you leave it and try again later youll just run into a brick wall as youve been DECLINED previously. ultimately none of us know you or how mild/serious your ADHD is i mean its a pretty massive spectrum so the person holding all the actual facts is yourself and also every firearms department is different Ive come to realise. me id chase it as shooting is a massive chunk of my social life,hobby and consumer of my free time. id certainly be worse off without it i feel.

Remington choke maybe

i believe and the internet seems to back me up these were made at olin kodensha so basically miroku/browning/winchester they all use standard invector chokes. ive got a mossberg 535 that uses inv chokes and they look just like what you've posted above. my route would be find a buddy that has a gun that uses inv (cant be that hard the amount thats about) and ask if you can try screw one in. edit: just had the calipers on a choke from my moss berg the measurements are not the same mate sorry not even close

yeah he was.

Aw yeah totally agree ive always just been happy with the insurance you get with a few extra grams and a larger shot size. but that little "extra" is like £50 more and i cannot justify it. Especially the amount i shoot getting hard to justify my expenditure as it is. clay's hiked up at the grounds i shoot recently as well. reaching that stage where ive got a nagging feeling in the back of my head that im being financially irresponsible when im enjoying myself and ive not felt like that since my late teens early 20s and ive not missed it haha

the age old argument of 7.5s or 6s for pigeon is quickly getting answered for me, i cant believe ive now seen the day when well over 300 quid is a price worth shouting about for pigeon cartridges. couple more years and it will be 100 a slab

funny enough, ive never really noticed a recoil or muzzle flip change between barrels but i always have the more open choke on the bottom and use the selector on the gun depending on the pair im shooting if its clays. usually running 1/2 and 3/4 but if i upped to 3/4 and full then the 3/4 is coming out aswell and going in the bottom barrel. and after a wipe down my guns go into the cabinet with 1/2 and 3/4, just 1/2 if its got the one barrel and 1/4 so it patterns like 1/2 in my duck gun. i must have a full set of chokes for most of my guns and i bet the 1/2 for all of them does 95% of the shooting ive got true cylinder and x full and they've never been in my guns that i can remember

not really running the man down though am i?, i seen this post yesterday and thought the same and left it, then he reduced it today and given that cartridge post usually get snapped up in a matter of minutes on this forum yet this ones been up a day without a sniff should be evidence enough thats its not a fantastic offer and if i was alone in thinking this theyd be gone. Quoting prices that arnt by the thousand rate is pointless because the fact remains if you are looking to spend 425 quid you need to measure it against what you can get for the same money. not calling the man greedy more cautioning him against wasting his own time. "i don't need cartridges myself" is a cop out because they're a consumable at the right price anyone will take more ammunition regardless of what they currently have. or are you telling me you wouldn't take them if they were for £10? i hope the lad gets a reasonable price hes happy with for them and i hope whoever buys them feels they've got a steal.

not being rude mate but thats still very strong money for what is a mixup of random loose cartridges . could get 4 slabs of high end game or 6/7 clay slabs for this money.

everything available online its not a secret its open knowledge cost of car insurance on average has gone up about 60% inflation on parts, more cars on the road since lockdown, more complex cars are common place e.g EVs, hybrids and all cars have thousands of sensors and as others have said write off with little bumps and knocks. plus entry level has gone up as above the days of getting a banger for your first car, new drivers are more and more going for new PCP. infact the trend of having cars on HP or PCP is on the rise across the board and all the insurers do is past the cost onto us in the next prediction. long story short accidents are more expensive these days.

well by 2025 i imagine the goal posts will have moved a number of times mate, however youve still got the rock solid argument of "ive been granted in 2020 with my previous medical history why is it now an issue with the same medical history?" this only works on the basis that youve nothing to declare 2020-2025 ofcourse. i think youll be fine and if not this is the kind of thing basc do back you with if you are a member

i always thought they tried to get to britain because many of them speak atleast broken English. stands to reason if youre gona try and start again any the nature in which you started is illegal so you cant seek "legitimate" aid being able to read and speak even slightly would be a leg up

Ah sounds good fun. Never even heard of it. Will take a look cheers

sorry if you've answered it above but whats the intended purpose for this gun? i know you've stated slug gun but outside of practical shooting (this clearly isnt going to be used for that) what is the point of getting slugs put onto your ticket? target shooting perhaps. ive got section 1 shotguns and slug on my ticket for practical, and its never crossed my mind that as-long as im withing the conditions of my section 1 i could shoot at paper targets at proved ranges. not even sure on the legality of loading section 1 ammo into a section 2 firearm.

sadly over the last 30 years the police have been neutered due to reforms, red tape and internal scapegoating. so now were at a stage that they hold very little presence or power. a camera phone at every incident means that anything done not by the book is a career ender. in London after the recent incidents. after usually having around 150 applicants for firearms training/duties even after opening it up to officers still in probation the met had 6 applications. no power, understaffed, organization doesn't and wont have your back. public opinion at all time low. whod be a copper on 2024? id certainly not be.