Muslim only school

[Blunderbuss]

But i didn't mention there religion

 

Eh? the Title of YOUR thread is "Muslim Only School". Last time I looked "Muslim" denotes someone of the Islamic RELIGION. You really haven't thought this through have you? Presumably white British or Black Africans can go there as long as they are Muslim. A similar principle applies to Jewish, Catholic or Church of England schools. So I'm really not sure what your point is?

 

IMHO the phrase "I'm not a racist but", is always, without exception followed by words which contradict that.

[Ozzy Fudd]

so what. if they want their own school let them have it

[Robbly]

I like to shoot clays and pigeons, What the **** are you arguing about religion for? Ok it's off topic but come on, who give a ****.

The world is screwed up enough due to religion, lets not involve it in passion.

[Ozzy Fudd]

I like to shoot clays and pigeons, What the **** are you arguing about religion for? Ok it's off topic but come on, who give a ****.

The world is screwed up enough due to religion, lets not involve it in passion.

 

religion has always spoilt passion for me - too many girls want to get married before they get passionate

[ronster]

religion has always spoilt passion for me - too many girls want to get married before they get passionate

 

[Robbly]

:lol:

[Bluebarrels]

Live and let Live (lets concentrate on the shooting) BB oh by the way,i shot a Muslim pigeon today,or was it a Christian?or does it really matter?

its Friday chill out and have a

Edited October 2, 2009 by Bluebarrels

[Yellow Bear]

I believe all faiths should be kept out of schools.If your faith is strong,go to your nearest place of worship,read your chosen book and laearn about your faith.

 

 

religion should have absolutely nothing to do with education UNLESS its a lesson where equal time is devoted to all the main religions in the world and their beliefs

 

 

[jonno 357]

Interesting topic. I know this would end up ****ty

 

Theres loads of islam only schools in Bradistan, Batley Dewsbury, and has been for many years now. I know lads who live over that area and its no big deal. They keep themselves to themselves and whites keep to there schools. I don't think it is healthy for the towns because a split between the white and asain community is happening

 

Last year my mate showed by a local rag from batley and it it had a bout 10 or so pictures from different schools and the 1st picture was a catholic school that was all white kids then about the next 6 school pictures, and it was all asain pupils . Then a pitcure of 30 or so asain pupils and 2 white kids in the picture

 

 

I do know the asain only schools struggle to get white teachers in the schools and to get a male teacher in junior is non existent

 

Jonno

Edited October 2, 2009 by jonno 357

[Jim Sarakun]

I have within the last ten minutes commented on at least 3 other postings of a similar nature - what on earth is going on with this site

 

You are on the "Off Topic" page. Freedom of speech is what's going on. This is England.

 

 

religion has always spoilt passion for me - too many girls want to get married before they get passionate

 

Excellent..

[Mungler]

I am with Richard Dawkins on this one.

 

If you want a religious education (an oxymoron if ever there was) then go to a church, a mosque, a temple.

 

If you want an education go to school. You could learn about biology, carbon dating, natural selection and Darwin's theory for example.

 

Leading nicely into.... did anyone see this week the discovery of the 4.4 million year old skeleton in Ethiopia? It does rather throw the time line out on most religious "teachings".

 

Each to their own. IMHO anyone is entitled to worship whatever they want be it the gaud, the sandal or the bowl of petunias

[bigstevouk]

4.4 million year old skeleton in Ethiopia

 

Hide and seach champion 2009.... lol

[henry d]

It's not the race that worries me what really get's to me is that they are excluding our kids from schools that were most likely paying for, and then if we were to go to there home country and do the same thing there would be absolute up roar !

 

 

There's been an Islamic High School in Chorlton, Manchester for years.

 

Dundee and Independent........Linky

[Floating Chamber]

I tried some Halal wine the other day. It's made from grapes that have been humanely slit.

[henry d]

I tried some Halal wine the other day. It's made from grapes that have been humanely slit.

Spoken like a true bigot

[Ozzy Fudd]

Spoken like a true bigot

 

henry, not to rain on your parade or anything, but, with my understanding of you being a fine upstanding christian gentleman, surely you should remember one of the great teachings of our lord and saviour (no, not spongebob, the other ones, has a spanish name, hay-soos or sumfin?)

 

matthew 7:3 "Why do you see the speck in your brother's eye but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?

 

and also, technically, surely muslims, by placing so much emphasis on mohammed (and less on jesus) are at logger heads with the christian faith??

[Floating Chamber]

Spoken like a true bigot

 

 

BUT! See below, later!

 

You jump too quickly, Harry!

Edited October 3, 2009 by Floating Chamber

[George1990]

Hope they're paying for the school to be built, paying for the tuition and all of the equipment.

 

Obviously they wouldn't convert a proper school, would they? What with British children having to travel miles already for a half decent school.

 

Hope they wear a proper English unifrom too, not those ******* ridiculous curtains hanging off their heads.

 

 

It makes me want to puke my guts out. What is this country coming too...

[sv-mark]

TBH all religion should be taken out of schooling IMO it causes nothing but trouble.

take away religous ed and put science in it's place much more useful subject, and if parents want to teach their kids about somthing that does not serve a useful purpose let them do it after school.

[henry d]

henry, not to rain on your parade or anything, but, with my understanding of you being a fine upstanding christian gentleman, surely you should remember one of the great teachings of our lord and saviour (no, not spongebob, the other ones, has a spanish name, hay-soos or sumfin?)

 

matthew 7:3 "Why do you see the speck in your brother's eye but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?

 

and also, technically, surely muslims, by placing so much emphasis on mohammed (and less on jesus) are at logger heads with the christian faith??

 

1 - I know my own failings and bigotry is not one of them, this quote is incorrect in this context as it is not hypocritical or self righteously. In this case my objective is to evaluate carefully and choose between good and bad and as he quoted "Halal wine" which in itself is ridiculous and could be classed as offensive too, never mind the rest of the quote.

Jesus never taught his disciples not to rebuke, only not to judge when ones own sins are in the same area and therefore hypocritical.

 

2 - You missed the ball completely on your second point, Jesus is a well known and revered prophet in the Islamic faith.

 

The Islamic faith is also based around the same tenent as the Christian faith and that is to love others as you would yourself.

[shot shot]

The Islamic faith is also based around the same tenent as the Christian faith and that is to love others as you would yourself.

so whats all that jeee-haad mabober about then??

 

o, and about the wine, the grapes of wrath??

Edited October 3, 2009 by shot shot

[henry d]

so whats all that jeee-haad mabober about then?? That is simply someones take on the Qur`an and is an extremist view.

 

 

o, and about the wine, the grapes of wrath??

[Ozzy Fudd]

1 - I know my own failings and bigotry is not one of them, this quote is incorrect in this context as it is not hypocritical or self righteously. In this case my objective is to evaluate carefully and choose between good and bad and as he quoted "Halal wine" which in itself is ridiculous and could be classed as offensive too, never mind the rest of the quote.

Jesus never taught his disciples not to rebuke, only not to judge when ones own sins are in the same area and therefore hypocritical.

 

2 - You missed the ball completely on your second point, Jesus is a well known and revered prophet in the Islamic faith.

 

The Islamic faith is also based around the same tenent as the Christian faith and that is to love others as you would yourself.

 

1 - by calling another member a bigot, and pointing out their supposed failures (even though it was a joke) surely that is nothing more than self righteousness? and the quote does not relate to bigotry, it basically says "dont have a go at other peoples failings, as youre 10 times worse", does it not?

 

2 - ah, but thats my point henry - christianity views Jesus as the son of God, surely by relegating him to being a mere prophet, as the Islamic faith does (although well known and revered) it is somewhat insulting, and, some may say, sacriligious? also, christians believe that Jesus and his teachings are the only way to God, so again, by Islam having a later prophet with his own set of rules and teaching, they are going against God's word?

 

As for what the two faiths are built around, ill agree that small point, however dont forget how violent Islam can be (interpretated) compared to Jesus' teachings

Edited October 3, 2009 by babbyc1000

[Chard]

My youngest lad goes to a Catholic school, a very good one. (Wife's Catholic, I'm a devout atheist)

 

I have to say that the day the state can "do" education as well as the Catholics, that'll be the day I'll put him in a state school. Until then, I would prefer that he learns something while he's in the education system.

 

State schools in Greater Manchester are **** (mostly). I wouldn't say they are under-achievers, just non-achievers.

 

Political interference in education is 10,000 times worse than religious interference. All the education system is interested in is meeting targets and appearing as though the quality of education is better . The net result is armies of kids emerging from the system with fistfuls of A*+AAA super turbo A levels, which are completely worthless, because everybody has a fistful of them and they still can't spell their names.

[henry d]

1 - by calling another member a bigot, and pointing out their supposed failures (even though it was a joke) surely that is nothing more than self righteousness? and the quote does not relate to bigotry, it basically says "dont have a go at other peoples failings, as youre 10 times worse", does it not?

 

Try and get a NIV or similar study Bible look it up and it will show you how it was translated and interpreted by the various scholars etc. As I said at the start I am aware of my short comings.

 

2 - ah, but thats my point henry - christianity views Jesus as the son of God, surely by relegating him to being a mere prophet,(No such thing, remember Muhammad ?) as the Islamic faith does (although well known and revered) it is somewhat insulting, and, some may say, sacriligious? also, christians believe that Jesus and his teachings are the only way to God, so again, by Islam having a later (He was earlier than Jesus by about 600 yrs) prophet with his own set of rules and teaching,(...given to him by God) they are going against God's word?

 

As for what the two faiths are built around, ill agree that small point, however dont forget how violent Islam (Forgot the crusades/Conquistadors/Spanish inquisition....... No all these are MAN made and nothing to do with the word of a Christian or Islamic God) can be (interpretated) compared to Jesus' teachings

 

Now can I go to my nightshift please ??

 

Have a wee read from anything that comes from mainstream religions and that is what is good and right and how people judge their religious ideals not as a method of promoting hatred.