chris t Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 If funds will allow am thinking of trading in my 12G Browning 325 grade 5 30" for a beretta Ultralight 12G. Have just weighed the browning and it's 3.5kg. I did use it for pheasant shooting and found it (being a smallish 10.5 stone chap) far too heavy for me and by the end of the day felt exhausted and my back starting to ache. It also seems to kick my shoulder to bits and I can't hit much with it. So I started using dad's old S/S 12G Powell which was working for me much better 30" barrels and 3.1kg and doesn't seem to kick as bad. (still heavy enough though) I was wondering if anyone has any experience of the beretta ultralights. I basically want to be able to shoot well with it and not feel exhausted after carrying it around all day. Must be a 12G as well. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moz Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Love mine. But everyone is different. I don't seem to find the recoil too bad, but some do. Supppose you would have to try one if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 You save a couple of ounces in the gun and lose loads of reduction in recoil. I shot one a couple of weeks ago with 24 gramme clay loads and felt it kicked like a mule - My avatar is not me, but i am remarkably similar - With my build i rarely feel recoil (although i do feel and fear hunger). If you are going to shoot 50+ cartridges a day out of it, i would personally think again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 You save a couple of ounces in the gun and lose loads of reduction in recoil. I shot one a couple of weeks ago with 24 gramme clay loads and felt it kicked like a mule - My avatar is not me, but i am remarkably similar - With my build i rarely feel recoil (although i do feel and fear hunger). If you are going to shoot 50+ cartridges a day out of it, i would personally think again. I would say this is a personal thing once again and that the amount of recoil is often down to carts used (could be a common perception i don't know) My brother has an ultralight deluxe and i have used it with 28/30g 6s on the pheasants and would say the recoil is not so bad. However i think the idea of not going much over 28g is not that bad an idea. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris t Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 For my pheasant shooting I've recently been using express pigeon special 30g 6s fibre. By all accounts they are quite a slow cartridge quoted @ 1375fps. I bought them for my semi and pigeon shooting, but I've been told they haven't enough grunt to cycle my semi "they said use a 2 3/4 inch cartridge and not 2 1/2 inch"(it kept half chucking out about every 10th cartridge). But used them in dad's old S/S Powell and they seem to be low on recoil and I shot quite well with them, some stuff I hit seemed miles away. Thanks for your advice, might have to see if I can try one out somewhere, when I get the chance. Have to say that I like the look of the SV10 beretta with the kick off, but I'm back up to 3.3kgs on the weight with that. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Just buy a standard Beretta Game Gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Met a guy who had one,like most he had several guns and bought it on a whim,says it's the only gun he uses now,let me and a friend put a few through it,recoil was not noticably different and was very "pointable",i have a SP "s" game and the ultralite felt better,go for it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigglet Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) If a gun kicks like mule then it's not mounted properly and just may not fit you. I'm 10.5 st and over that last couple of days have been shooting a 28" 3kg hammer gun with 30gloads on game and have done 75 clays using 24g loads. The recoil is not anymore noticeable than through my 30" 425 sporter. If you just go out and buy a gun without it being propery checked for fit then you may well end up with a gun you can't shoot well with no matter how hard you try. By all means shortlist a few guns you'd like but make sure they fit correctly before you buy. You may well need to incorporate trying a prospective gun or guns with a lesson in order to achieve this This may seem like an expensive way to do it but trust me, it will pay for itself over and over in the long run. Edit. just weighed my hammer gun and it's 2.6kg (5lb13)! Edited December 6, 2009 by pigglet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitpwee Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I had a beretta ultalite and am very sorry I got rid of it. I used it for rough/walked up shooting and it was a pleasure to carry. I put 32g 7's and 30g 6's thru it and didn't find mich recoil. My uncle thought it kicked like a mule. My other uncle loved it. It is not suitable for clays/ducks or on a shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Try one out first, they can kick like a mule if your a little small when using 30g cartridges or more. But it is a personal thing. Some shops/clay grounds will let you try one for a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney 66 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 If you do look at buying a new ultralight look at them very carefully i have looked at 4 all with marks on the barrels and GMK have had 2 batches in all with minor marks on them,if you read one of my previous posts you will see the problems ive been having,nearly sorted should be happy this week,will lt you know, Good luck with whatever you choose, regards Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Ive used one recently and it kicks like a biatch with 32g no 6 in it!!! superb looking gun too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 The missus bought one as her first gun, she thought she wouldnt be able to handle a "normal" weight gun. The thing kicked like crazy even on 21's - so she now has a Browing 325 and shoots 28's with no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reidzer Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I have one, great gun especially for walking around with. I changed to it from a 686e and prefer the ultralight. Not really had any problems with it kicking (I'm 5' 5" 10stone). I would say if you run out of cartridges and take 250 32g 5's to clays and fire them non stop you do start to feel it!!! But 30g 6's on a busy driven day all day long with no problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris t Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Have been to my local gun shop (countryman derby) today and they were really nice in there as usual (family team). (couldn't recommend them enough). They warned me that the ultralight might well kick a bit, but I tried it anyway and it IS light. But then tried the SV10, which I liked but did 'feel' heavy for me. Tried a silver pigeon 3 ltd and that did feel great. Perhaps a little heavier than I would have liked but feels lighter than the SV10 and loads lighter than my old browning 325. So bought the silver pigeon and am pleased, although the bank balance isn't quite so pleased Have to say though, for me the browning 325 did feel rather clumsy after trying the silver pigeon. Afterwards they did said that they have been trying to sell the ultralight for awhile (it is a new one), but unfortunately convincted each customer that comes in looking for one against it. He said perhaps I ought to keep my mouth shut and then I'll have it sold. Anyway pheasant shooting on Friday, hopefully I'll get on with it OK. Thanks for all your advice. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmfrank Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 i have a ultralight and a browning 325 , the ultralight is a very light gun but has a bit of a kick , ok if you can put up with it , the browning has 32' barrels no kick at all , but a bit of a lump to carry around , i love them both , i was thinking about trading the ultralight in but after using it a bit more iam getting use to it , forgot to say ultralight has auto safe on and can be a pain if you forget to switch off , with being use to the browning its a tough call mate , good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) If a gun kicks like mule then it's not mounted properly and just may not fit you. I'm 10.5 st and over that last couple of days have been shooting a 28" 3kg hammer gun with 30gloads on game and have done 75 clays using 24g loads. The recoil is not anymore noticeable than through my 30" 425 sporter. If you just go out and buy a gun without it being propery checked for fit then you may well end up with a gun you can't shoot well with no matter how hard you try. By all means shortlist a few guns you'd like but make sure they fit correctly before you buy. You may well need to incorporate trying a prospective gun or guns with a lesson in order to achieve this This may seem like an expensive way to do it but trust me, it will pay for itself over and over in the long run. Edit. just weighed my hammer gun and it's 2.6kg (5lb13)! "Ifa gun kicks like mule then it's not mounted properly and just may not fit you." - totally agree with this. I started shooting the 12bore when I was 11/12 and I was never ever bought 21g/24g cartridges. It was 28g or nothing, deal with it. I can tell you I have NEVER had a problem of hurting after a shoot and I shoot a fair bit! Every time I see fully grown men shooting these light loads I cringe inside... If 28g hurt that means you are clearly doing something wrong. Edited November 10, 2013 by Cawdor118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Every time I see fully grown men shooting these light loads I cringe inside... If 28g hurt that means you are clearly doing something wrong. No need to cringe(!) - I use 21g on clays because they are effective, cheap and lighter on me and the (light side by side) gun. I like them. On a pheasant day I use 30g equally happily and neither I or the gun suffers. I agree that if 28g hurts, something is wrong - probably gun fit related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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