groach1234 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) The reason i ask the question about the rspca releasing foxes is simple. Yesterday whilst out on the boxing day shoot 6 fox came out of one drive and the drive is probably 300m long running down by a beck. Now i feel this many foxes in such a small space cannot be natural. Also one of the other guns claims to have seen a white van in the area of the drive and its well within private land so something must be up, i'll be heading down there with my rifle later to see if i can do some damage but as i say is there any evidence of foxes being dumped? George Edited December 27, 2009 by groach1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper063 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) yep i was told they check them out and release into wild and these are urban foxes. illegal or what there was a programme on tv last week where the rspca took a tree rat to vets and was treated and released Edited December 27, 2009 by sapper063 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometa24/7 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) yep i was told they check them out and release into wild and these are urban foxes. illegal or what there was a programme on tv last week where the rspca took a tree rat to vets and was treated and released Double standards, or is it just one rule for one and another for another? Edited December 27, 2009 by cometa24/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcw65 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Yes they release them by our farm,shot 7 the other week and have had 46 this year many of them just sit and look at you in daylight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1979 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 get them to release a few round here!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I have been told that there has been a number of foxes released very near to me as well! I don't know if it is true but I see no reason to disbelieve it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I always thought it was an old wives tail, until i saw a white transit van release 2 whilst i was out fishing (this was at dawn). Now was it the RSPCA or somebody else? The same year we had an awful lot of rather unafraid foxes around the valley. Cheers Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Its not only the RSPCA that release foxes-ive seen footage of hunt members releasing them the day before a meet-ive also seen them being trapped for the same reason-few years back now but i'll bet its still going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 i have also seen the RSPCA doing the same thing on the nick of pendle but i didnt have a cammera or i would have photographed them doing it yes there are double standards . i sujest you write a letter of thanks to the local RSPCA office and ask if they can co'ordinate releases with your shoot dates , that usualy stops them in there tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treestalker Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Yes it does happen. I caught an RSPCA officer doing it. He couldn't get the metal cages back in his van and drive off quick enough. He was in a layby and was carrying the cages out onto a field via a public footpath. Since that day he's gone elsewhere and we don't have the large number of stupid foxes mooching around the farm buildings in daylight. At one stage it was getting ridiculous and I shot seven in broad daylight in a day. Another thing it is cruel. Town foxes that scavenge through bins are not clued up enough to get sufficient food in the countryside quickly enough and they starve. Some of the sad old things were eating cattle food out of the troughs. The RSPCA and various other animal charities/hospitals need to seriously look at some of their policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) There was a programme on TV a few days back where this animal rescue charity had a young fox in a pen and the man said it was to be released into the wild in the next few days. I don't know what the programme was because I was just flicking through the channels. Personally, I question not only the wisdom but the legality of such an action. Its cruelty, the fox is either going to get run over, starve or get shot. It can't fend for itself and in this weather if it hasn't got somewhere to go its going to lay up in the open and freeze. The other foxes will drive it off their patch if they find it there ( unless its a vixon in season*) and it will not be made welcome. Espescially if its a young male. *Even then the dog fox will abandon the vixon later and she won't be able to feed herself. So its just postponing the inevetable. These do gooders have got no idea what happens in the real world. Edited December 27, 2009 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 There was a programme on TV a few days back where this animal rescue charity had a young fox in a pen and the man said it was to be released into the wild in the next few days. I don't know what the programme was because I was just flicking through the channels.Personally, I question not only the wisdom but the legality of such an action. Its cruelty, the fox is either going to get run over, starve or get shot. It can't fend for itself and in this weather if it hasn't got somewhere to go its going to lay up in the open and freeze. i know it is clrealy illeagal to release vermin , perhaps someone could tell us what law , chapter and verse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badshot Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Look and all will be revealed. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...releasing+foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 better just sending a letter of thanks for the shooting then , blow the c r a p out of em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Yes they release them by our farm,shot 7 the other week and have had 46 this year many of them just sit and look at you in daylight. Shoot them - and pile them up exactly where the nice delivery driver stops with the next lot. Maybe bung a sign on them saying: LOOK - FREE DOG FOOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 It's simple. They keep releasing them, i keep shooting them.... Simple's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Of course they are releasing them and its a complete disgrace. They release foxes which have no idea how to survive in the wild and as a result they turn to eating out of peoples bins in there back yard. But like someone has already said they can keep releasing them and they will keep getting shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 yep i was told they check them out and release into wild and these are urban foxes. illegal or what there was a programme on tv last week where the rspca took a tree rat to vets and was treated and released Although animal welfare comes above anything I can't see why a vet would treat a grey squirrel, knowing it could never be released. I have never been asked to treat a fox but I can assure you it would be destroyed whatever the injuries. Now an interesting thought on the Animal Welfare Act 2006: A person commits an offence if he does not take such steps as are reasonable inall the circumstances to ensure that the needs of an animal for which he is responsible are met to the extent required by good practice. (2) For the purposes of this Act, an animal’s needs shall be taken to include— (a) its need for a suitable environment, ( its need for a suitable diet, © its need to be able to exhibit normal behaviour patterns, I can't see how keeping a wild animal in captivity satisfies these criteria. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts2006/pdf/u...20060045_en.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 VISIT HERE.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMM Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 It's simple. They keep releasing them, i keep shooting them.... Simple's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) A couple of years ago one of my permissions suddenly had a problem with 7 foxes on the land,(there were a lot of geese and ducks that the landowner kept)and I was asked to take care of them.Whilst out early one morning a white van pulled up (not seeing me) and an RSPCA inspector got out and was just going to release some foxes,I came out of my hiding place,and asked if he had the landowners permission,to which he mumbled something and closed the doors on the van.I told him that i'd taken 5 and I would be here every day to take care of the rest.I've not seen the van again and the landowner reports no major problems now,just the odd one now and again.So it DOES happen. Alan Edited December 28, 2009 by willy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I know about one (Suspected) release site that is being used for foxes around here on the top of Sharneyford. I have a permission on about 400 acres up there and a good friend has adjoining permission. We (And the farmers) have noted a rise in the fox numbers lately in that area. A more concerning thing that is coming to light now is another of my permissions where the farmer seems to be constantly seeing foxes on his property no matter how many get shot by me or the other chap I share the shoot with. This season alone we have taken care of at least a dozen and a half on this farm, the most recent one was a very scrawny vixen shot by me on Boxing Day at just 30 odd yards. One was even seen by the farmer sitting as bold as brass in his driveway at three 0'clock in the afternoon witha chicken in its mouth while the farmer was walking about within 20 yards of the pest. Whilst I appreciate that if you "minimise the fox population" from an area of land other foxes (Being the opportunists that they are) are likely to recolonise it, but if like us we keep hitting the foxes hard in this relatively small area where the hell are all of these foxes coming from. Could we be on the edge of another "RSPCA?" release site, if it is actually the RSPCA that are releasing them? And if so surely the RSPCA should seek permission from the farmers to release foxes in any agricultural area before doing so, or are they not getting permission because to release "wild" foxes into the country side is illegal and not offering the foxes much of a chance of survival which is contardictive to everything that the RSPCA is surposed to stand for! Whatever the case I am not overly concerned as it helps to fill my otherwise dull winter evenings! And here's one I shot earlier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Although animal welfare comes above anything I can't see why a vet would treat a grey squirrel, knowing it could never be released. I have never been asked to treat a fox but I can assure you it would be destroyed whatever the injuries. Now an interesting thought on the Animal Welfare Act 2006: I can't see how keeping a wild animal in captivity satisfies these criteria. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts2006/pdf/u...20060045_en.pdf i knew someone would supply chapter and verse speaking to mark from this forum last night and he is having the same problems with released foxes as seems lots of other people , i think these pests should be deliverd back to the RSPCA in a cardboard box . i wonder how much they are scrounging if they can keep paying for opperations on these vermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratman2 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Despite the RSPCA stating to the contrary, it does go on around here, only recently an unmarked van was seen to be releasing foxes in the dead of night (I have night vision) Five of the blighters were set free………….but I have it on good authority that their freedom was brief. B) Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 There is a large wood at the back of my house which used to have a large fox population . There is no chance of shooting in it as its got multiple owners and lots of footpaths . There is a man who goes in every day and hand feeds about 10 of them . So they show no fear of man and will walk up the street in daylight and rummage through your bins. Some one obviously complained to the council and I can only guess that as a health issue the RSPCA came and trapped 6 of them and released them else where ............... I didnt believe it myself until I saw the traps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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