Thumpersniper Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 would this work in an FAC rated air rifle to reduce the problems of having to lighter pellet? or do you need the flange part in a propper pellet to seal the rifling properley? The magnum pellets for FAC air rifles are heavyer in order to make them more accurate? or would a bullet be too heavy and the wrong shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 They'd be too heavy and it's unlikely they'd engage properly into the rifling or be accurate. Put one through an old SMK or something see if it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFox Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 would this work in an FAC rated air rifle to reduce the problems of having to lighter pellet? or do you need the flange part in a propper pellet to seal the rifling properley? The magnum pellets for FAC air rifles are heavyer in order to make them more accurate? or would a bullet be too heavy and the wrong shape? You can use non-diablo pellets in an airgun. You can also buy lead bullets for airgun,s so I can't see why it wouldn't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 mate of mine had some slugs for an fac rated airrifle, looked very similar, 40gr etc, try it, see how they go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpersniper Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 regretefully it was just a hypothetical question, i dont have an fac air rifle because they turned me one down on a variation because i have a .22lr and i dont know where you'd get rimfire bullets because you cant reload them! probably a pointless hypothetical question as well really then lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I have got a feeling thet a rimfire bullet would be too wide. They are 5.7mm and your .22 air rifle is 5.5mm (I think) Feel free to correct me if Im wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm pretty sure you can reload 22lr, might be wrong but i'm sure i saw something in a reloading magazine not so long back. you cpuld always try it in a standard air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Dont think you can reload rimfire, I may be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpersniper Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 o sorry you may well be able to reload rimfir i was only guessing that really because the brass is crimped in the rim when you fire, but if you bought new cases you could probably home load or something for accuracy i guess! I thought the extra weight of the bullets would give some more ft/lb's down range with a FAC air rifle. But i think the whole idea with the lead skirt on a pellet is that it expands to form a seal in the barrel when the blast of air comes behind it this couldnt happen with a bullet it would just rely on being a tight fit i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 You can buy heavy pellets for FAC, I had some when I had my -12ft/lb air rifle and they were no good, too heavy. Cant think what they were called. Ill let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFox Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 You can buy heavy pellets for FAC, I had some when I had my -12ft/lb air rifle and they were no good, too heavy. Cant think what they were called. Ill let you know Rabbit Magnums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 regretefully it was just a hypothetical question, i dont have an fac air rifle because they turned me one down on a variation because i have a .22lr and i dont know where you'd get rimfire bullets because you cant reload them! probably a pointless hypothetical question as well really then lol Does that mean it's either FAC air rifle or .22lr Why not both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpersniper Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Does that mean it's either FAC air rifle or .22lr Why not both? summing about doubling up the same calibers... i have permission on about 2000 acres and explained i wanted something for using in the yards etc and the .22 in the field. FEO rang and said that i wouldnt be able to have a .22 FAC rated air rifle, so i said i would like a .17 instead of it as well as a .22lr. another phone call in a few weeks saying its either a .17 or a .22lr so i just said to forget it and il stick with a .22lr! would still really like an FAC air rifle at about 28ft/lb but cant have one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 "NATO Bullets" were available in the late 80s. Looked very much like a .22lr pulled bullet, but were made of some kind of metal alloy. They were waaay to hard, and grouped shockingly at 20 yards. I'd hazard a guess that a pulled .22lr bullet would have a similar result. The trajectory would be stupidly loopy too. Try CB Longs - 30 grain or so, and much lower velocity than standard rimfire ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 (edited) Some years ago you were able to get what they called "Eley Bullet Heads" i am sure they stopped making them, Rabbit magnums are still available but not as accurate "Die Sung are still about but again not as good as the olde eley. Ox nato where if i remember about 18grains they were accurate in some but thats normal with most rifles. made of ali they would drill strait through quarry. so not an effiecient pellet, allthough i did have some good bags using them in an old Galaxy. I dont think you will go far wrong using bisley magnums. Edited February 15, 2010 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Bullet Heads might work in some Gun's But would groan in a springer And might make a precharge go over power What Gun - Make & Model / Caible are you using and @ what Range are you hoping to stop Vermon ? BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 .22lr Specifications Case type Rimmed, Straight Bullet diameter .223 in (5.7 mm) Neck diameter .225 in (5.7 mm) Base diameter .225 in (5.7 mm) Rim diameter .275 in (7.0 mm) Rim thickness .040 in (1.0 mm) Case length .590 in (15.0 mm) Overall length .985 in (25.0 mm) TAKEN FROM WIKIPEDIA The Bullet diameter, underlined, is the one you need to look at. .22lr is 5.7mm whereas .22 Air rifle pellets are 5.5 or 5.6mm. And yes they were rabbit magnums Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper6 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I have got a feeling thet a rimfire bullet would be too wide. They are 5.7mm and your .22 air rifle is 5.5mm (I think) Feel free to correct me if Im wrong I agree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper6 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I'm pretty sure you can reload 22lr, might be wrong but i'm sure i saw something in a reloading magazine not so long back. you cpuld always try it in a standard air rifle. Ido a lot of reloading and i have never seen anthing for reloading 22lr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 A mate of mine used to shoot copper rimmy bullets from his FAC airgun. They flew like a beauty and had incredible stopping power. I can only guess he used a bullet puller to take them out of a round, but that'd be both a waste and a very expensive shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFox Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 You can buy air bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm pretty sure you can reload 22lr, might be wrong but i'm sure i saw something in a reloading magazine not so long back. you cpuld always try it in a standard air rifle. If you can show me a way to refil the rim with primer I'll have a go, not possible for the normal, average, reloader, unless new technology has arrived! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) If you can show me a way to refil the rim with primer I'll have a go, not possible for the normal, average, reloader, unless new technology has arrived! As far as I'm aware, you need an explosives licence to own/create impact explosives... The green primer is extremely explosive and it actually makes a small bang when it's heated, even when it's not under compression. Edited February 21, 2010 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KANO Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 using .22 rimfire bullets in an air rifle? If I was to try this I would be somewhere very open very safe, tie a loooong piece of string to the trigger and stand weeeelllll back............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 How do you plan to remove a bullet from a rimfire case ? The primer is in the rim, you'll only have to compress that rim a little too much and it will go off!!! Another potential candidate for the Darwin awards maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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