Mungler Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Okay, just been out on a red letter evening on the bunnies; the evening only ended because I ran out of ammo. I reckon the CZ hmr is a cracking all rounder and the only down side is the noise. So, I am going to bite the bullet and get the best mod for it I can - so what's the best (i.e. most quiet) mod and have any of the shooting rags run any tests? Cheers all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) The SAK is pretty much the best you can get for the money, TINY differences are apparent if you want to spend loads more money!! Whisper 23.3dB, SAK 26.9dB, SM11 28.6dB LEI 27.5dB. ShootingTimes17HMRModerators.doc Edited April 28, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Another convert! There is only so much you can do about the noise because the majority of it is caused by the round breaking the sound barrier away from the gun. I have a cheapo parker hale silencer on mine, and it does a fine job, not least to protect my hearing. There are certainly more expensive moderators that will reduce the sound further, but I'm not sure it's really necessary, because real sound that is left when a moderator is fitted is the crack as it passes through the sound barrier and not on exiting the barrel. I think DM80, Whisper Wildcat, and ASE Ultra are some of the more popular top end moderators. There was a review, I think in ST a while ago about moderators, which I read but it was pretty naff... definitely wouldn't recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 This subject and question has been covered in so many ways so many times before Mungler my friemd and the same answer seems to come up just about every time - The SAK is as good as just about any of the others and only costs around £30, it's strippable and should last quite a long time. You will never get completely rid of the sonic crack from the HMR so why go spending a small fortune trying when a £30 Sak will do the job just as well as the more exencive ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 agree with the lads on the sak mod. goes quiet as you put shots through it when cleaned or new,then sound is reduced. your surroundings will not help,regardless of the mod you use.trees are the worse,comes back loud of them but,this does not stop me getting bunnies. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosa Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 sak mate @ £30 odd quid you cant go wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads03ads Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Another thumbs up for tha SAK Ads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I have an SAK on mine, it really isn't that noisy and if you want proof then get someone else to fire it while you stand 25 yards behind and you will realise it isn't that bad. You could spend another £100 or so and not get it much quieter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 DM 80 is a far better moderator than the SAK- really does shut down the muzzle crack- however the HMR round as its travels through the air makes some noise and that cannot be moderated Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 The SAK is pretty much the best you can get for the money, TINY differences are apparent if you want to spend loads more money!! Whisper 23.3dB, SAK 26.9dB, SM11 28.6dB LEI 27.5dB. remember that a 3dB difference is in effect double the amount of noise, thats a pretty big difference. (i would always take these figures with a pinch of salt anyway) to my ears the DM80 was the best but not by much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 another convert - Stealth Stalker has just put in his variation as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulABF Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I've owned an HMR for a few months now but only had the chance to zero it until last weekend where I shot live quarry with it for the first time. Two rabbits, both 100m plus. One I shot standing up. Beautiful rifle and accurate as anything. Moderator is a SAK and does the job well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 another convert - Stealth Stalker has just put in his variation as well. nice to hear another convert Mungler I'm assuming you did a box of ammo so a really nice evening, with regard to moderator I had to do a spot of close range shooting with mine a while back and from that I worked out with a sak on it was almost .22lr quiet as the bullet noise wasn't heard. So spending the wonga may make a small difference but not much, rabbits don't tend to worry about it as MC said you can't locate the source of the noise if you stand down range. Now is perfect for bunny bashing as they think they have enough cover to hide in crops, its a cracking round to use if you have lots of bunnies and is perfect from a vehicle as you get the knock down ability and the range to make the most. I find it a cheap round to use on bunnies purely as the kill ratio is so good well worth paying the difference over the .22 to get sub inch accuracy and the ability to shoot to 125 yards without thinking about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 there loud cant do anything about that but i use a ase ultra £80 looks **** but sprayed it up gloss black now it looks the part and works well on the gun if the rabbit hears the shot you have missed it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Did two boxes of ammo last night. The lamping vehicle is awesome. With the raised seats at the back and the roof as a stable bi-pod rest, the kill ratio was in the high 90%'s and every shot was guaranteed an into the ground back stop. The HMR round was pretty flat out to about 130 yards and yes, there was some awesome shooting displayed When I ran out of ammo I switched with the lamper - I lamped and he used his Ruger with subs. I really have gone off the .22RF round - whilst it's quiet it just doesn't have the legs and off hard ground the ricochets were every other shot. Strangely the CZ hmr is the cheapest but most used rifle I have. Accordingly I don't mind splashing out on "the best" moderator for it. I am also going to take the plunge and get some of those 10 shot mags - does anyone know where these are currently stocked and available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 rugby gun shop £35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 thats a corker of a night out then, simply put you can spend more money but won't make much difference so depends how much you want to treat the CZ. Best hurry though i reckon another week or so and we'll have seen the best of the rabbiting as the crops will be too tall. I really don't think I'd want to use a .22LR again as our ground it does that when fired at a decent angle from a vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 seriously it's not worth putting anything other than a SAK on it. Park Street Guns are doing to 10 rounds poly-carb mags for £30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 did you have to say that I'm almost allergic to going there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 tell me about it, it's close and that's it's only saving grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Dunkield, he's the best moderator, put him on it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 DM80 unequivical................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 I bought off ticket an mod with no markings as did my original one so I just swapped them over,it was sold under the guise of being an air rifle mod its a reflex mod (ie barrel goes into the mod) its stripable and way quieter than the wisper,I got it at the phoenix meeting £70 it was off a guy called jason he makes them,he runs a shop called jager sporting arms,he also does atec mods etc give him a shout ile try and post a picture for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Caliber specific wildcat whisper Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 I bought off ticket an mod with no markings as did my original one so I just swapped them over,it was sold under the guise of being an air rifle mod its a reflex mod (ie barrel goes into the mod) its stripable and way quieter than the wisper,I got it at the phoenix meeting £70 it was off a guy called jason he makes them,he runs a shop called jager sporting arms,he also does atec mods etc give him a shout ile try and post a picture for you. They look interesting, I think I'll have a word if they are at the Phoenix this year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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