The Pest Expert Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) just the farm i shoot has pigeons on there flight lines, horse, cows and grass no crops or nuffing else they would come down for just cause im a bad shot how could i try and bring them down ?? some of you may laugh at this but i have decoys and dosent work any help please ?? thanks ATB Edited May 20, 2010 by The Pest Expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 The best thing for you with no crops etc is in about a months time when birds start feeding on laid corn. Is to set a pattern up near a water trough with a bird or two on canes on the acutal trough I once shot over 30 birds with a air rifle in the long hot summers of the 1990s. I have seen birds on troughs this week look for feathers in the water and poo down the side of the trough they prefer the old metal galviznized ones over the new round plastic troughs. Kind regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 I have the same sort of permission, goats/sheep and grass, but good flight lines, set up in a corner, hide and decoys, have even used a magnet on occassions, yes they will come down, so you must be doing something wrong, hide making maybe they are seeing your movement what choke are you using? practise makes perfect going by the book though, you'll need a reason to shot them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pest Expert Posted May 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 yea i have permission and he wants the crows and pigeons gone just they sit in the trees and all the trees are just on the boundray line and if i shoot them they will go on to the next premissis i think spending more time on my hide what if i throw abit of corn what they see it and think FOOD!! cheers for the replys ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 At the moment in my area the pigeons are feeding on clover more than anything else. If you have grazing land they should be visiting it. Spend some time watching the meadows and see if they are feeding there and set up accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Are you using a shotgun? Let's get the basics out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Lofted decoys in the tree you are sat under, might bring them in over you. Best bet is to invite someone along who could show you how its done and how to identify good flight lines etc. If you dont already, then some regular practice on the clays will only help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Lofted decoys in the tree you are sat under, might bring them in over you. Best bet is to invite someone along who could show you how its done and how to identify good flight lines etc. If you dont already, then some regular practice on the clays will only help ive done this the last couple of times out, with out th decoys and to be onest enjoyed it, its been a challange spotting them and bloody good fun shooting them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pest Expert Posted May 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 yeah shotgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 you will bring em in with a magnet i gather they dont get shot at to often so shouldn;t be wary of a rotary or 2 thats the key if they are not feeding on your permission and just passing on a flightline look for a point down a hedge or a tree that they pass and set up there on the grass with decoys and rotary if you have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 At the moment in my area the pigeons are feeding on clover more than anything else.If you have grazing land they should be visiting it. Spend some time watching the meadows and see if they are feeding there and set up accordingly. Best advice on here yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pest Expert Posted May 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 i have a rotary left it there last week end so cant use it this weekend cause of a dead battery but decoys would help i spose thanks for the help guys if idraw a ruff picture of my land on paint could some 1 show me how to set my decoys out ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealine Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Hi you can set out the horse shoe ,or a "L" shape, go to the BASC website, they have some goos advice and show you how to set out your decoys. Good luck, not living far from you could have a look with you if you like, look on the bright side, even if your not bringing them down, the shotgun "bang" will keep them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Here are a few well known tips you may not yet have heard of. Now you don't have to smoke, but take some rolling tobacco with you and try to roll a cigarette. This works quite well. Take a flask and balance the cup on your knee while you use both hands to unscrew the lid. This one never fails. Lean your gun up against the net with the bead caught in the mesh, then try to get it out. This always brings in a few. This one worked particularly well for me today. During a quiet spell, go and move your decoys around a bit. Oh and don't forget to leave your gun in the hide. It doesn't seem to work when you have your gun with you. You will wonder where they all came from. Take your coat off in the confines of the hide. Another good one. Ask a friend to phone you every hour, but keep your phone in your shirt pocket with your coat over the top. They swarm in whilst your trying to get it out. Good luck with these top tips... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Here are a few well known tips you may not yet have heard of. Now you don't have to smoke, but take some rolling tobacco with you and try to roll a cigarette. This works quite well. Take a flask and balance the cup on your knee while you use both hands to unscrew the lid. This one never fails. Lean your gun up against the net with the bead caught in the mesh, then try to get it out. This always brings in a few. This one worked particularly well for me today. During a quiet spell, go and move your decoys around a bit. Oh and don't forget to leave your gun in the hide. It doesn't seem to work when you have your gun with you. You will wonder where they all came from. Take your coat off in the confines of the hide. Another good one. Ask a friend to phone you every hour, but keep your phone in your shirt pocket with your coat over the top. They swarm in whilst your trying to get it out. love it Good luck with these top tips... :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Here are a few well known tips you may not yet have heard of. Now you don't have to smoke, but take some rolling tobacco with you and try to roll a cigarette. This works quite well. Take a flask and balance the cup on your knee while you use both hands to unscrew the lid. This one never fails. Lean your gun up against the net with the bead caught in the mesh, then try to get it out. This always brings in a few. This one worked particularly well for me today. During a quiet spell, go and move your decoys around a bit. Oh and don't forget to leave your gun in the hide. It doesn't seem to work when you have your gun with you. You will wonder where they all came from. Take your coat off in the confines of the hide. Another good one. Ask a friend to phone you every hour, but keep your phone in your shirt pocket with your coat over the top. They swarm in whilst your trying to get it out. Good luck with these top tips... Amazing tips these always bring the pigeon in for me. The one that never fails me is when you need a pee, and you have the matter in hand, it always produces what would have been the perfect left and right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Amazing tips these always bring the pigeon in for me. The one that never fails me is when you need a pee, and you have the matter in hand, it always produces what would have been the perfect left and right. Yes, these are well known hot tips all of us decoyers use. I agree with you on the perfect left and right there rimfire4969, I did forget that one, it is difficult to remember them all in one moment. Another good one for bringing in the pigeons is to go and pick up that one you shot that landed right over on the edge of the field you are in. This never fails to bring a nice flock into your decoys. can you think of any more hot decoying tips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 can you think of any more hot decoying tips? yes go back to the car for something you forgot to bring to the hide another good one. also put your gun down to ajust the height of the hide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Start packing up that works well or put your gun away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 The "start packing up" is a blinder for bringing in the birds. I used to leave my gun on my chair, loaded, whilst I was packing up. Bad move. Take the cartridges out, and every bird in the neighbourhood will land on your decoys.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Start packing up that works well or put your gun away forgot about that one meself how many times does that happen at the end of a session things slow down not a bird in sight for 20 mins think to yourself pack up in a bit soon as you do bird appears sees you and flares away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Here are a few well known tips you may not yet have heard of. Now you don't have to smoke, but take some rolling tobacco with you and try to roll a cigarette. This works quite well. Take a flask and balance the cup on your knee while you use both hands to unscrew the lid. This one never fails. Lean your gun up against the net with the bead caught in the mesh, then try to get it out. This always brings in a few. This one worked particularly well for me today. During a quiet spell, go and move your decoys around a bit. Oh and don't forget to leave your gun in the hide. It doesn't seem to work when you have your gun with you. You will wonder where they all came from. Take your coat off in the confines of the hide. Another good one. Ask a friend to phone you every hour, but keep your phone in your shirt pocket with your coat over the top. They swarm in whilst your trying to get it out. Good luck with these top tips... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Here are a few well known tips you may not yet have heard of. Now you don't have to smoke, but take some rolling tobacco with you and try to roll a cigarette. This works quite well. Take a flask and balance the cup on your knee while you use both hands to unscrew the lid. This one never fails. Lean your gun up against the net with the bead caught in the mesh, then try to get it out. This always brings in a few. This one worked particularly well for me today. During a quiet spell, go and move your decoys around a bit. Oh and don't forget to leave your gun in the hide. It doesn't seem to work when you have your gun with you. You will wonder where they all came from. Take your coat off in the confines of the hide. Another good one. Ask a friend to phone you every hour, but keep your phone in your shirt pocket with your coat over the top. They swarm in whilst your trying to get it out. Good luck with these top tips... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Put your guns in wraps and take up Fishing. If there are no crops to protect being grown on your permission then you are in fact breaking the law by shooting pigeons. It is technically illegal to decoy pigeons on to a grass feild and shoot them. Thats what I dont understand about many posters on this forum they have no grasp of the General Licence or the Counrtyside & Wildlife act and just want to shoot live quarry for the sake of it. Nothing personal. Im sure the normal uninformed comments will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Put your guns in wraps and take up Fishing. If there are no crops to protect being grown on your permission then you are in fact breaking the law by shooting pigeons. It is technically illegal to decoy pigeons on to a grass feild and shoot them. Thats what I dont understand about many posters on this forum they have no grasp of the General Licence or the Counrtyside & Wildlife act and just want to shoot live quarry for the sake of it. Nothing personal. Im sure the normal uninformed comments will follow. No Mike, you are correct unless the grass is being grown as a crop - for hay or silage for example, or for grazing. Which just about covers almost all agricultural grass. What tickles me is when someone with the user name The Pest Expert asks such basic questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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