small engined 4x4

[Guest georgehare]

im 17 next year and want a 4x4 for my first car..... does anyone know of any 4x4s that have smallish engines in them. the old shape suzuki vitaras have 1.6 petrols in them but i want a diesel if i can.

 

im not asking if anyones got one for sale but just wondering what options i have

 

 

 

thanks GH

[fert]

there arent really any small diesal engines in 4x4s your better off with either a suzuki sj or samuri.the sj is only 1000cc but not a bad motor and the samuari is a 1300.which has a bit more grunt.they are both very cabable off road vehicles.or you can go for the lada niva cossack 1.6 or the lada niva husser 1.7i.these are awsome offroaders and they will start in the coldest of sub zero conditions cause there russian brrrrrrrrrrr

[fert]

you can pick up a disco tdi for under a grand now

[Down South]

Don't laugh, if you can find a good one, a Fiat Panda 4x4 is a great little off roader, cheap to insure and run and you would be surprised where it will go off road and what you can pack in.

[markbivvy]

any 4x4 for your age will be a telephone number in insurance costs.

[bobt]

Take a look at an older Landrover 90, the insurance can be reasonable even for a 17 yr old.

[henry d]

Suzi Vitara 2.0 l diesel or petrol subaru justy,cossacks are good too,if you need a number I know a guy who deals with Lada`s only.

[white fox]

Take a look at an older Landrover 90, the insurance can be reasonable even for a 17 yr old.

Yes LR must be the choice, even consider a decent series IIA or III, go to NFU for the best insurance.

 

WF

[marlin.45]

Take a look at an older Landrover 90, the insurance can be reasonable even for a 17 yr old.

Yes LR must be the choice, even consider a decent series IIA or III, go to NFU for the best insurance.

 

WF

But the drive to Staff's would be a challenge and fuel cost an issue if it's a petrol

 

Check out a Suzuki Jimny. They are 1.3 injection (no diesel yet despite their promises to bring one out this year) and you can pick one up for 2k. If not then a 1.3 SJ. The 1.3 is usually more economical than the 1.0 and almost all come with a 5 speed box. Cheap to maintain and simple but reliable. Rust is the only issue.

 

If diesel is still the main decision maker then a LR Discovery 200tdi. Far cheaper than a 90/110 but you will still only see 30mpg - if it is healthy. You'll get the same on petrol from a Jimny.

 

In the end is comes down to what you have to spend on the 4x4..........................and then the cost of insurance!

Edited December 19, 2005 by marlin.45

[markbivvy]

im 17 next

LR Discovery 200tdi.

 

if your dad is rockerfella.or ozzy osbourn.

[old rooster]

Why are you rotten lot encouraging this innocent lad to buy a load of old Land/Range Rover ****, he'll be put off motoring for life !!. Take a look at the 1600 petrol Sportrak, good economy, actually goes off road and won't break you on running costs.

[HAMMY]

Old Yin,

 

I agree on the Sportrak, good little machines had one before I came out here used it for driving any distances, economical, sold it to my mate who has run it successfully and cheaply for two years. I also had a Landy which was for running back and forth to my local shoot, steady on with slagging the Landy though I'm a fan!! You've obviously had a bad experience!

 

I wouldn't take a Disco in a Gift though!!!

 

 

Hammy

Edited December 20, 2005 by HAMMY

[SNAKEBITE]

What about those old LADA 4x4s?

I don't know anything about them at all but they must be cheap and fairly reliable. Not at all fasionable or desirable but that could be good points for him.

[tenbears10]

But the drive to Staff's would be a challenge and fuel cost an issue if it's a petrol

I'm with Marlin you WON'T be able to afford to fill it with fuel, petrol or diesel.

 

I know guys with good jobs who wince at taking the landy on a long journey because of how much the fuel is going to cost.

 

If you were going to use it for short trips or when you were home from college then fine but commuting in a landy is the preserve of people with too much cash these days.

[old rooster]

I'm with Marlin you WON'T be able to afford to fill it with fuel, petrol or diesel.

 

Or all the spare parts and tools you'd need to carry on such a long journey.

[pavman]

Check out a Suzuki Jimny. They are 1.3 injection :

 

Mrs pavman had the jimny, very reliable, but a bit heavy on the petrol despite the 1.3 engine, it was a T plate 1999 sold it in the summer for £3500 with only 30k miles on it. We needed more space and now have a defender, best 4x4 i ever had but you do need to be able to tinker to keep them going!

[Foxer]

the sportrak is made by diahatsu mate, and i dont think they make it in diesel but not 100% sure though??

[markbivvy]

what is this sportrak thing you talk about ?? whos it made by and can you get diesel ??

 

diesel one is the fourtrak daihatsu. i have the 2.8 one. will go anywere its asked at 30 mpg. even with a lead foot. easy to work on cheap to insure, unless your 17.

[lurcherboy]

George, cut me in half and you will see the Land Rover badge, but your best bet is the Lada mate

 

 

 

 

LB

[marlin.45]

Or a Suzuki SJ with a hardtop

 

Marlin

 

LR SWB 1969 softop petrol - The rough wagon

Jeep Cherokee 4.0 on LPG - The 'luxury' rabbit wagon

Just sold Suzuki Vitara LWB 1.6 petrol

Just sold Suzuki SJ413 softtop

[mel b3]

i had a lada niva cossack and i can honestly say they are one of the most capable off roaders i've ever driven,it's just a shame they suffer fron weak gearboxes,my last 4x4 was a suzuki sj410,it was pretty good off road but awfull on it,it was thirsty as hell because you're thrashing it everywhere just to keep up with the flow of traffic,at the present time i've got a suzuki vitara,they're acceptable on the tarmac and acceptable off road and fuel economy doesn't seem too bad but you can get naff all in the back so i don't think i'll be hanging onto it for too long.

[converse320]

No idea on your budget. If I was looking for a smaller 4x4 I'd be looking at a Subaru - Legacy or Forester.

[SNAKEBITE]

but your best bet is the Lada mate

At last a sensible sugestion from me!!

[old rooster]

my last 4x4 was a suzuki sj410,it was pretty good off road but awfull on it,it was thirsty as hell because you're thrashing it everywhere just to keep up with the flow of traffic,

I found just the same with mine, orrid little fing it wos

[darebear]

ive read what everyone has to say on the matter, so decided i might as well shove my oar in.

 

mate, you're coming up 17. unless money isnt really an issue - forget it. you might as well face facts.

 

4 x 4's arent going to come cheap whether that be insurance, running costs or the vehicle itself.

 

however, if money isnt a major issue, id suggest the fourtrack. its off-road and towing capabilities are better than most in the similar price bracket.

 

jeeeeez, i cant believe you lot were honestly suggesting a lada cossack or a flippin 4x4 panda !!!!!!!!!! the poor lad! he'd need a limitless supply of paper bags to shove over his head rather than being seen out in public in either one of those!

 

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