bruno22rf Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Looking for some sound advice guys-part of my work is site maintainance on a school site about 4-5 acres in total.Over the last couple of months foxes have moved in under some of the temporary buildings and are fouling the grass areas so heavily that they are now unusable-some areas are relativly clean but others are covered with faeces.We have been told that we cannot trap them-poison them-shoot them-block up the access holes-gas them-deliberatly release dogs to catch them.Its amazing that these pests are allowed free passage to prevent a school from using its sports facilities.What can we do (the council suggest flashing L.E.D.,s and a substance called "scoot")? Anybody with any serious suggestions please share them with us (im all for popping them with a .22 sub as we can get within 25 yards of them quite easily but i,ve been told that i would be instantly dissmissecd if caught) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Looking for some sound advice guys-part of my work is site maintainance on a school site about 4-5 acres in total.Over the last couple of months foxes have moved in under some of the temporary buildings and are fouling the grass areas so heavily that they are now unusable-some areas are relativly clean but others are covered with faeces.We have been told that we cannot trap them-poison them-shoot them-block up the access holes-gas them-deliberatly release dogs to catch them.Its amazing that these pests are allowed free passage to prevent a school from using its sports facilities.What can we do (the council suggest flashing L.E.D.,s and a substance called "scoot")? Anybody with any serious suggestions please share them with us (im all for popping them with a .22 sub as we can get within 25 yards of them quite easily but i,ve been told that i would be instantly dissmissecd if caught) Why can't you use a live catcher with the promise to release them somewhere fox friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 dont get caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
here iam Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Why can't you use a live catcher with the promise to release them somewhere fox friendly Agree why not spot on my uncle does this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 that's why this country is goosed. live trap it and take it to somewhere private to "release" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 ok first port of call is to get it in writing that the council accepts liability for any disease kids pick up from the fox faeces or indeed if any of them are bitten. They've stopped you controlling them in any sensible manner so they should accept responsibility. As said the best option is live capture traps to release them well away in the countryside. Possibly on a permission of yours where you can give them a few feet head start and see if they can out run a load of BB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Get down to ALDI / LIDL and buy a few pallets (yes pallets) of dog chum & feed........ then when there's more foxes than kids they'll have to sanction something effective.........surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toka_shigazu Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 ok first port of call is to get it in writing that the council accepts liability for any disease kids pick up from the fox faeces or indeed if any of them are bitten. They've stopped you controlling them in any sensible manner so they should accept responsibility.As said the best option is live capture traps to release them well away in the countryside. Possibly on a permission of yours where you can give them a few feet head start and see if they can out run a load of BB's I would second that!!! and perhaps a call to the press about it...... atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 The councils response to live catching and release is a log the lines of "this practise is now seen as cruel as the territorial nature of the fox leaves the animal confused and unlikly to survive" following advice fron the RSPCA the council will no longer allow such practice on their land.We even had the council send out a pest control firm to initially identify the culprits (has to be done as a matter of course for all vermin related problems) and the operator said that urban foxes seem to have more protection than the royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 funny stuff. I mean the red tape the luvvies have created for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soreshoulder Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 ok first port of call is to get it in writing that the council accepts liability for any disease kids pick up from the fox faeces or indeed if any of them are bitten. They've stopped you controlling them in any sensible manner so they should accept responsibility.As said the best option is live capture traps to release them well away in the countryside. Possibly on a permission of yours where you can give them a few feet head start and see if they can out run a load of BB's lol i would advise disposing of them in the cage. My gramp was telling me that he caught this fox he had been after for a while and decided to do the same thing, and he missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Is there an area outside of the premises you may be able to get permission to shoot? That's what I'd look to do, then bait them to the site so you can whack them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Leptospirosis(Weils disease),Mange (Scabies)in humans,Hepatitus we've lost three terriers to this after fox encounters,Canis Toxicara can cause blindness all carried by foxes.Tell the council you need a Risk Assement done and get H&E involved see how funny it is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Human urine is quite effective as a temporary measure i'm told. But I agree there needs to be a (very) permanent solution for the foxes or the school could find itself at the centre of some big claims if pupils get ill/injured as a result of the foxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul99 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Councils lunacy aside what have the school governors to say about it? (assuming they actually know about it in the first place). Their support on the issue could be very useful should it come to involving the HSE and seeking a Risk Assessment. Who knows a few of them might just relish the chance to flex their muscles and tackle the issue without you initially having to risk working relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snozzer Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Leptospirosis(Weils disease),Mange (Scabies)in humans,Hepatitus we've lost three terriers to this after fox encounters,Canis Toxicara can cause blindness all carried by foxes.Tell the council you need a Risk Assement done and get H&E involved see how funny it is then Thats the winner, additionally get them to disclose who their insurers are so you can contact them to clarify exactly what their insurance will cover in the event of disease or bite... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax55 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 as someone said before about the baiting onto another piece of land to slot them. if not shoot them on it get permission for the live trap to go on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Why can't you use a live catcher with the promise to release them somewhere fox friendly Foxes wise up to traps very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Leptospirosis(Weils disease),Mange (Scabies)in humans,Hepatitus we've lost three terriers to this after fox encounters,Canis Toxicara can cause blindness all carried by foxes.Tell the council you need a Risk Assement done and get H&E involved see how funny it is then Toxicara is a pretty powerful arguement to invoke on a school. The other ones as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Foxes wise up to traps very quickly. Yeah they do, but once they are caught in one it's too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Leptospirosis(Weils disease),Mange (Scabies)in humans,Hepatitus we've lost three terriers to this after fox encounters,Canis Toxicara can cause blindness all carried by foxes.Tell the council you need a Risk Assement done and get H&E involved see how funny it is then Leptospirosis from fox, thats a new one to me, I was not aware of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 If the site has a fox problem it needs dealing with, nothing else matters. I do a lot of work in Bucks, give me a shout if you need help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishermanpaddy Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Find a handy doggy man to take his Lurchers on a nightly stroll past the school. If the fox attacks the dogs then hey the dogs can claim self defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Thanks for the advice so far-the site manager is looking for written confirmation that foxes carry such diseases and will then forward them to the council and the board of governers.Walked round the back of the school last night and the blighters were yapping to each other constantly-must have been at least 5 out there if not more.Most of the droppings seem to be purple in colour and the sloes that we have tons of seem to be rare on the lower branches-would they eat them? ( i know they are eating the Rose Hips cos you can see them in the droppings) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Write to the Sun, their sensationalist ******** can do something useful for a change. Remember the fox-in-bedroom story? had the desired effect on people, and your council will change their tune PDQ when the Sun says they're endangering human safety for some mangy little fox! As for your council, bunch of tree-hugging fluffy-bunnyite idiots. Do think publicity is a good idea, your constituents might vote somewhere else next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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