davecooper1 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Keith. Sounds a good idea,but its something thats not going to happen overnight. There is a lot of hard work and planning to do, contacts advertising letters costs ect. You need to find out just how many are interested, and arrange a meeting, to work a plan out to go forward. I myself think it could be possible,but its going to be a long haul, its a good chance for PW members to meet and shoot. If thers enough members that are interested and serios, then I am up for it. I am one of the lucky ones that has a few permissions to shoot, but just love a challenge. Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Davecooper Please sort your messages out. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecooper1 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 John mate what have I done wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 I tried to send you a PM, but got a pink banner stating that you could not receive messages, so I guessed that you were full. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecooper1 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Thanks will look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Thanks for the encouragment guys I will mull this over and speak to a few people and see what I can come up with as a plan thanks again Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul@Ribchester Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Any development's Keith.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 no no no you should be BAND iv lost 1500 acres to the poxy pigeons clubs offering my farmer 1000 quid a year . You lot need to get off ya *** and go door knocking like rest of us had to insted of poaching other peoples land who have worked had for. Not personal havein ago at ya mate but just feel at them plus farmer cause all they see is the money rant over That is just the type of attitude I deal with when brokering land on behalf of a wildfowling club..... Land is far better run under the guise of clubs & associations in some cases. For a start who know everyone is insured. And if the goverment have its way that will be the only way, where all land is administered by clubs/syndicates for shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Land is far better run under the guise of clubs & associations in some cases. For a start who know everyone is insured. that's a pretty dodgy opinion to hold these days, fundamentally land is far better off being managed properly by the owner / tenant, they ultimately carry the can over who shoots and who does not. Be a sad day if farmers had that taken away from them We've had the big guided outfits paying for land round us and it goes in circles, people kicked off then the pigeons etc not controlled properly and watching damage being done till its worth putting paying punters on there. most landowners work out the damage is more than they are being paid so let their old shooters back on having learned their lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 sorry about this guys, the land I was after was taken by a syndicate and i have been quite ill and have not been on here for a good while. I will be looking into this again soon, whether anything comes of it we will have to see. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul@Ribchester Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hope your on the mend Keith, looking forward to you posting again............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I seem to have opened a can of worms here and maybe I should just forget the whole idea I only thought about this as there are already 2 clubs up and running, NPPC which has it's own section on here and another one that has been recently started around the north Midlands I think and again was flooded with requests to join, it is correct the NW has some serious arable production and a group of like minded people with skills to offer could play a good role in both helping the farms out and giving a good name to shooting. So far as I have stated it's just an idea and will require some serious ground work which I cannot manage alone, so I would need help in the organisation and setting up of a club/organisation of any kind to make sure it's done properly and doesn't turn into a farce, I believe it would be possible with the right people behind it to set-up something like the other 2 clubs already running in other areas. I get a bit miffed when some one has vast amounts of permission and guards it with the "it's all mine and nobody else is sharing it" attitude and believe me it happens more than people realise, what's wrong with a little sharing now and then? (and yes I know some people are happy to share things) but some people are like kids who haven't worked out the concept yet personally I like sharing stuff, I get a real sense of satisfaction to see that i have made someone else happy, it's so much more fun doing stuff with a mate or 2 than being on yer own,and it's also a lot safer as well. I don't wan't to (and never had) take someone's permission away by offering big wads of cash, i would find that difficult as i'm always skint anyway but I see a need for some thing like this, it has worked elsewhere so i just put 2 and 2 together and came up with 4 if i'm to be cast out and ostracised for it then I will keep my mouth shut in future Can you guide me to the NPPC section on here mate that you mentioned? Cannot seem to find it . cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 That is just the type of attitude I deal with when brokering land on behalf of a wildfowling club..... Land is far better run under the guise of clubs & associations in some cases. For a start who know everyone is insured. And if the goverment have its way that will be the only way, where all land is administered by clubs/syndicates for shooting. So what your trying to say is my family own farm land but for me to shoot on it you expect me to join a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Can you guide me to the NPPC section on here mate that you mentioned? Cannot seem to find it . cheers NPPC was dropped from the forum about 12 months ago so you will have to google it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 NPPC was dropped from the forum about 12 months ago so you will have to google it.. Thanks bud. Any reason why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Thanks bud. Any reason why? it used to be a free section but then a club bought it and started charging for access. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I think its a very good idea and far better for the farmer and the guns. How many of us can get there imediatly? The farmer needs the crop protecting it gotta be a win, win. I would be up for it, purely because there being no arable land here i don't get any such sport and sometimes i want to do something different. So if you start up give us a shout Another tale, a newbie approched a landowner were an experianced mate of mine shot foxes. "I am after some foxing and am willing to pay you £XXX for the privalage if you will have me". The landowner agrees in principle but says he must first speak to his current guy, who of course gets asked to pay. "sorry mate no way, i don't struggle for permissions as you know i try and consentrate my efforts were needed and do tend to get the job sorted". Result he looses that permission. Few weeks later same farmer calls him " that **** shot three lambs the other night and no foxes will you return, i am loosing my birds to a fox he can't get i am gonna chuck him off". The experianced shot thinks a while and says "sure will £50 a night" Suppose it cuts both ways! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Acid House Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 I didn’t think I had an opinion on this until I read the thread. I get very frustrated when talking to farmers etc about gaining permissions in the NW. They all seem to be taken!!!!! Yes you can get lucky and fall onto a belter but there are hundreds of shooters looking for the same land which ultimately means a lot of chaps aint getting a chance. I also get a bit miffed at the chaps that have it and guard it as if it is their right to have it. At the end of the day whats wrong with a land owner calling up a group of chaps he can trust to rid a pest problem. There is nothing wrong with the regular bloke being shoot captain for the day. After all whos better qualified to direct operations. In fact who better to let the farmer know when he needs the cavalry? It sadly proves that those who have it don’t want to share it at any cost, even if the land suffers. If a system is to be offered in the region then I would like to be a part of it. As long as it’s an aid to vermin control and not yet another whats mine is mine scam. You could even get a reputation for actually helping folk out for free…………….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I think it's a great idea. As for the chap who thinks it's wrong as we should get off our ***** and knock on doors to find new permissions. If you have lost yours why don't u take your own advice and find another instead of blocking a group of people from enjoying an area so you can have it all too yourself. I would be happy to pay upfront knowing that it's being run and used by shooters and not someone looking to make a profit. The land owner gets their money and shooters get a friendly run club with good shooting as the main aim. Sounds a good idea to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I think it's a great idea. As for the chap who thinks it's wrong as we should get off our ***** and knock on doors to find new permissions. If you have lost yours why don't u take your own advice and find another instead of blocking a group of people from enjoying an area so you can have it all too yourself. I would be happy to pay upfront knowing that it's being run and used by shooters and not someone looking to make a profit. The land owner gets their money and shooters get a friendly run club with good shooting as the main aim. Sounds a good idea to me its not about blocking land its took 10 year and not missed a single week in them ten year to get wat iv got so you don't think im going to not say anything when sum weekend pigeon shooting wants to take that from me . the 1500 acre was just 1 farm iv still got 13 more now iv took well over 20 people of here and meet some good mates i just think its a lazy way of getting land and should not be encouraged for a few quid to farmer. but that's just my opinion right or wrong i dont care i just no all my farmers are chuffed to bits with the leval of service i give them and i doubt any pigeon club can offer that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Ohh. You only got another 13 farms to shoot. Poor u. I'm fairly new to shooting and don't think it would be that responsible for me to knock on a farmers door he says yes and off I go off like elma thud. This club for me would be perfect being in the n/w and with friendly p/w members to help show me the ropes and get me on the right path also make some new shooting buddies off here. If you have 13 places to shoot I'm sure you won't be put out of business by one more group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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