Mungler Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Run the argument through. What would your reaction be to news that Sutcluffe or Brady had been bumped off? Leaving everything else to one side, it's got to be great news for tax payers surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 If sexually assaulting a 7 year old boy then strangling him before putting a plastic bag over the childs head and suffocating him to death doesnt mean that you deserve to die then i,m struggling to think what does.Can you imagine the terror in the little boys eyes or what he was thinking as he died?-and if he were your son?even Hatch,s own mother is glad that he,s dead.I hope he died a long and agonising death. The guy was a kiddy fiddler and he murdered a 7 year old and there was no question about his guilt. He serves no purpose, he is beyond treatment, he would never be released into the community and he would never be subject to a legal Appeal. He's been bumped off inside - that's a hip hip hooray from me as a tax payer. Am I condoning his murder? Probably The only purpose to keeping him alive I could think of was to study him and for the medical professionals to work out where it all went so badly wrong inside his noggin. Completely agree with the above...100%..there was no doubt this guy was a predator and in circumstances such as this i feel the death penalty should be brought into effect, can you honestly tell me you know of a case where people of this nature have been completely rehabilitated??? ....i doubt it, therefore, save the tax payers money.... I hope the guy is being rodgered over a hot skillet by satans largest endowed horse of hell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Run the argument through. What would your reaction be to news that Sutcluffe or Brady had been bumped off? Leaving everything else to one side, it's got to be great news for tax payers surely? Now, have you ever thought that the ConDem government could be hiring blokes on the inside to bump off lifers to save the taxpayer money? It could happen you know, ive seen the X-Files Completely agree with the above...100%..there was no doubt this guy was a predator and in circumstances such as this i feel the death penalty should be brought into effect, can you honestly tell me you know of a case where people of this nature have been completely rehabilitated??? ....i doubt it, therefore, save the tax payers money.... I hope the guy is being rodgered over a hot skillet by satans largest endowed horse of hell... There is NONE! These people are like never change. You cant alter someones Gay-ness, just like you cant change the colour of someones skin (Jacko excluded! HE-HE). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Quite simple for me really, if an animal, like a wolf took and killed a child, it would be killed without a moments hesitation. This child rapist and child killer IMO is no better than an animal. My gut reaction too was 'good' and I'm pleased also that the good old taxpayer isn't paying for his upkeep anymore. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTEMUP Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Yes Glad the little S""" is dead and I hope he rots in HELL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) hang on a minute. has anyone stopped to think about the pure terror that the pedo experienced after being held hostage for hours, before he felt the ligature tighten around his neck and realises that the prison guards aren't going to be able to save him this time? ........carlsberg dont do prison justice, But if they did.......... Edited February 24, 2011 by artschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 ........carlsberg dont do prison justice, But if they did.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 ........carlsberg dont do prison justice, But if they did.......... A lot of people on here would be experiencing it first hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I'm with MM on this one. No place for vigilante prison justice in our society, even if he was a thoroughly unpleasant person. As for artschool's musings on his death, do you no think that is just a little bit sick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I agree that it would cost loads to keep him in prison, and that its better off that he's dead. The comment that if a wolf killed a child that it would be killed is quite true. I mean look at foxes, they kill livestock and we go out and kill them, nevermind what we would do if we saw one attacking a human. But prison vigilante justice? In general it shouldnt be encouraged, it would go too far and people who could change, or may not be guilty etc might get killed. Its a difficult subject and i can see both sides... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesbach Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I'm with the majority as far as not losing sleep over this. But id like to know what those who aren't of this opinion would suggest should be done to these perverts...?! The prisons are getting fuller, more are being built, yet we top them up with "animals" that are already sectioned as "unsafe to the public". as mentioned earlier, these are no better than a wild animal that would happily be dropped on the spot for causing half the distress. Why keep them alive..?! do you really think that their minds/attitudes will change!? doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 If it was my kids he'd had his way with, I reckon I'd do whatever it took to get me inside the same jail as him, so I could have the pleasure of offing him myself. I reckon the best message this sends out is that they (nonces) may well get soft treatment from the authorities in this country, but even those we lock away won't put up with their ways - and will do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) I'm with MM on this one. No place for vigilante prison justice in our society, even if he was a thoroughly unpleasant person. As for artschool's musings on his death, do you no think that is just a little bit sick? well apart from the fact that it was a joke, i would be interested to know your definition of sick. i would define a sick individual as someone who whilst on parole for a previous child sex attack, abducted, sexually assaulted and choked another child to death. maybe i am just old fashioned. Edited February 24, 2011 by artschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 well apart from the fact that it was a joke, i would be interested to know your definition of sick. i would define a sick individual as someone who whilst on parole for a previous child sex attack, abducted, sexually assaulted and choked another child to death. maybe i am just old fashioned. I would define him as a sick individual. I would also think someone who took pleasure in the idea of someone else's death as a bit sick. Or is that old fashioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I would also think someone who took pleasure in the idea of someone else's death as a bit sick. Or is that old fashioned I dunno, what about when people found out Hitler was dead. That would have made the majority of Europe and the best part of the world a bit sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I would define him as a sick individual. I would also think someone who took pleasure in the idea of someone else's death as a bit sick. Or is that old fashioned your line of thinking is definately not old fashioned, sympathy for pedo's and murderers is a relatively new phenomenon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) ok, here is another way of looking at things. news is normally split into good news or bad news. which category does this story fit into? Edited February 24, 2011 by artschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 your line of thinking is definately not old fashioned, sympathy for pedo's and murderers is a relatively new phenomenon. Mungler - I can't imagine many were overjoyed by his death, more the end of the war. I wasn't alive then so I can't really comment on peoples' feeling then however. Artschool - my sympathy is only to the extent that I believe that no one should be murdered in prison, whatever they may have done. I support full life imprisonment for someone like him, I just do not subscribe to the theory of justice as 'revenge'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Artschool - my sympathy is only to the extent that I believe that no one should be murdered in prison, whatever they may have done. I support full life imprisonment for someone like him, I just do not subscribe to the theory of justice as 'revenge'. i am not suggesting that the general population of a prison receive a bonus everytime they off a pedo, you know like one year reduced from your sentence per pedo dealt with. i am merely saying that now its happened its not such a big deal. Edited February 24, 2011 by artschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorpeet Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't think that those who are pleased that he is dead are condoning murder. Had they known it was going to happen and encouraged it or done nothing to stop it then they would be condoning it. Being pleased that some one like that is no longer around is not condoning murder. However, I do think that there are certain crimes that warrant a death penalty. His is a prime example. He could never be released or rehabilitated, he could play no useful part in society. Do I condone murder? No Am I glad he's dead? Well, I'm sorry to say that I am. I hope his family get some comfort from his passing. It's the only useful thing he could have done for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Im certainly not shedding a tear. I would for the family of the seven year old who have to live with not seeing him grow up and have to live with this scumbags actions for the rest of their lives. Its happened and good riddance. Nail em up thats what I say, nail some sense into em - crucifixion - best thing the romans ever done. :yp: :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I like the idea, you get judged, sent to jail and then someone tops you as he thinks it`s justice To those that think it is right and proper to do that,how many want to form a vigilante squad and take out the paedos ? Just because it was someone doing it for "you" doesn`t make it right. If you knock somone over and kill them, do the "Eye for an eye" brigade still say that ? (Careful theres a twist here) What if you grass someone for doing something illegal and their sense of outrage is so bad they then carve your face, or the kids, is that still OK ? Come on we have rules here, "It`s not Nam !" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I like the idea, you get judged, sent to jail and then someone tops you as he thinks it`s justice To those that think it is right and proper to do that,how many want to form a vigilante squad and take out the paedos ? Just because it was someone doing it for "you" doesn`t make it right. If you knock somone over and kill them, do the "Eye for an eye" brigade still say that ? (Careful theres a twist here) What if you grass someone for doing something illegal and their sense of outrage is so bad they then carve your face, or the kids, is that still OK ? Come on we have rules here, "It`s not Nam !" Thats what i was going to say, but thought "why should i bother". Its hard to agree with peoples views, no matter how different. There are things posted on here that shock me to the core some days, but i dont get drawn in, as i respect what (most) people have to say. The law sets a tarriff for crimes commited. If we serve the time, have we paid in the eyes of the law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 The law sets a tarriff for crimes commited. If we serve the time, have we paid in the eyes of the law? Yes, although we may not like the crime, and some things the human race do to each other are truly evil, the law is the law. I won't shed a tear for his passing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thats what i was going to say, but thought "why should i bother". Its hard to agree with peoples views, no matter how different. There are things posted on here that shock me to the core some days, but i dont get drawn in, as i respect what (most) people have to say. The law sets a tarriff for crimes commited. If we serve the time, have we paid in the eyes of the law? MM you are of course correct, but the ethical arguments for the severity of punishment over the ages has changed depending on societies circumstances. and they might change again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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