the_commoner Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 having travelled extensively around Asia whilst there i took it as my responsibility to respect their culture, traditions and national identity. where necessary i dressed and behaved appropriately and in accordance with the custom of the nation i was in. if i moved to any of of these nations then i would, in order to feel comfortable and part of that adopted nation, integrate both culturally and socially. This may involve a change of 'western' dress. its case of when in rome do as the romans do. i actually think it hugely disrepectful to force your cultural beliefs of others and particulalrly a nation that you live in be it 3rd generation or not (the first generation immigrants in that case are to blame) if you wanna live here, live as we do, thems the rules, if you dont like them then jog on................ :yp: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Totally right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) I agree with meinderby and Gordon on this one. Edited April 14, 2011 by Beretta Italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) If indeed there are Asian no-go areas and I don't know of any personally. I took my wife right into the heart of the Rotherham Asian neighbourhood at Canklow to buy spices from a small shop there. I do know of areas in Sheffield, Leeds and Manchester where I wouldn't want to take my wife, but they are predominantly Afro-Carribean and White British areas. In Cyprus the only area I would not walk through is a Pontian Greek area of Paphos that is riddled with crime and drugs. The Muslim part of the north is very civilised as is virtually all the Greek Cypriot areas. And don't forget the gated communities that are springing up all over the UK where the white rich folk hide away from us riff-raff. I think I'm wasting my time with Mushroom and Fourwheeldrive. They are obviously rampant rascists and can't understand reasoned debate. National Front foot soldiers the both of them. And you are the biggest tww@@t I've ever had the misfortune to waste my life on reading your sad little left wing views... How dare you call me NF You have no idea what I believe but I take great offence at being called racist.You obviously do not have any muslim friends or should I say ones that trust you enough to tell you the truth to your face. I go off my experience, you WANT to believe that "all's well in Oxford town" then you go right ahead, me I'm leaving this country in June to intergrate with the Spanish and Catalan communities in Barcelona total racist me Typical nobbhhead policeman brainwashed and scared of admiting the truth for fear of being branded racist. Your the pathetic one who brands people racist because they have grass roots experiences, and don't agree with the total shii1te you spout on an almost daily basis. Edited April 14, 2011 by mushroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 There was no crime committed. The trial collapsed and the two accused men were released without conviction. Just because the trial collapsed dosen't mean they're innocent Plenty of trials have collapsed due to insufficient evidence or police mistakes They were still having sexual intercourse with a vunerable minor fact!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 The personal abuse has started, I'm finished on this one....I can hear the lock being fitted right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 having travelled extensively around Asia whilst there i took it as my responsibility to respect their culture, traditions and national identity. where necessary i dressed and behaved appropriately and in accordance with the custom of the nation i was in. if i moved to any of of these nations then i would, in order to feel comfortable and part of that adopted nation, integrate both culturally and socially. This may involve a change of 'western' dress. its case of when in rome do as the romans do. i actually think it hugely disrepectful to force your cultural beliefs of others and particulalrly a nation that you live in be it 3rd generation or not (the first generation immigrants in that case are to blame) if you wanna live here, live as we do, thems the rules, if you dont like them then jog on................ :yp: the simple fact is though that they aren't trying to push their beliefs and customs on us they just want to live in a traditional way for their culture. Personally I have no issue with it, you sure as hell won't find me dressing up in Indian garb when I go there and my other half sure as hell has never worn a burka yet been to many countries where they are worn. Its all fuss about nothing IMHO live and let live its why we have a democracy here. As for the rabid racists showing their heads its nothing new on here they just need to get out a bit more and stop being scared. I for one love the fact that Christmas day when I had a corner shop nearby it was open, when I employ muslim drivers they do tend to be more honest and definitely harder working than most white people I've employed not fiction or something i've read or some very distant mate of a mate of a mate down the pub had problems with one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 A couple of years ago, an airport worker was told to remove a cross from around her neck, as it might offend others from different religions. The British public cried out (as they do) that this was an injustice. It was only a gold cross on a chain around her neck. Muslim women hide their faces for religious reasons. What does it really matter that she covers her face? We dont run around London shouting at Jews to remove their heargear do we? Are we all that firghtened of the world, that the first sign of a Muslim face veil, we are going to arrest them for being Bin Laden in disguise? There are more inportant things going on in the world than this. The government should be throwing all efforts into solving hunger issues, or spending money on their own failing infrastrucure. Instead, they pass a daft law that will keep valuble professional people from going there. What happens when the wife of Shiek Al Mak...(insert sterotypical Arab name) who is worth $500 billion dallars, want to go shopping in Paris? Will they try to man handle her into removing her veil, forcing more international conflict (over oil). Daft! Tahts the only thing i have to say. (PS, and for the ones who give me the lines about "what if your family, ....9/11...blah blah. I think you need to get out more). Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 The cross was a little different MM, it was purely British Airways and their uniform policy rather than anything else. Its been changed the woman made a load of fuss over it and got backed by liberty. Now there is an organisation with a spokeswoman who gets on my man boobs http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/7028261/BA-wrong-to-ban-Christian-from-wearing-cross-because-it-plays-into-extremists-hands.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 The cross was a little different MM, it was purely British Airways and their uniform policy rather than anything else. Its been changed the woman made a load of fuss over it and got backed by liberty. Now there is an organisation with a spokeswoman who gets on my man boobs http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/7028261/BA-wrong-to-ban-Christian-from-wearing-cross-because-it-plays-into-extremists-hands.html I know mate, but it was the puclic and media outcry that i was getting at. The world has gone mad. Mad i tell ya!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) I know mate, but it was the puclic and media outcry that i was getting at. The world has gone mad. Mad i tell ya!!! Are your blind?? I'm all for tolerance, acceptance, live and let live etc, but do you think the (majority of) muslims think that way?? If you do you are living in a dreamworld playing straight into the fundamentalist's hands. Let's face it they are not all fundamentalist's but they do not speak out as the majority because it is truthfully what they want. Straight from the horses mouth. In Burnley alone moderates have been attacked. Edited April 14, 2011 by mushroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_commoner Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) multiculuralism has tipped over the edge and gone too far ............ i love living in a multicultural society, its just that i feel it needs to be tempered a little ........ it is now verging on positive discrimnation. we are loosing our very own cultural identity in a attempt to be multicultural, thats what i have a concern with. al3x - i am not suggesting i wore 'indian garb' what i am suggesting is that if i were somewhere that it was inapproriate / against their culture to wear shorts for example, then i didnt, even if it was over 100 degrees with regards to female head-dress, many of the females i travelled with wore approriate head-dress to respect the nations culture when required its about respecting your hosts culture why dont you spit in the street because its against our culture ................. in many parts of Asia its perfectly acceptable i stand by my only point which is when in rome...................... Edited April 14, 2011 by meinderby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 the simple fact is though that they aren't trying to push their beliefs and customs on us they just want to live in a traditional way for their culture. Personally I have no issue with it, you sure as hell won't find me dressing up in Indian garb when I go there and my other half sure as hell has never worn a burka yet been to many countries where they are worn. Its all fuss about nothing IMHO live and let live its why we have a democracy here. As for the rabid racists showing their heads its nothing new on here they just need to get out a bit more and stop being scared. I for one love the fact that Christmas day when I had a corner shop nearby it was open, when I employ muslim drivers they do tend to be more honest and definitely harder working than most white people I've employed not fiction or something i've read or some very distant mate of a mate of a mate down the pub had problems with one Come to Neslon, Lancashire at Christmas time you will not see merry christmas on the streets but a muslim greeting on big shiney neon signs paid for by the council. Without a single merry Christmas anywhere. Nelson council banned all taxis from flying the St Georges cross asian taxis still fly the pakistani flag Nelson council tried to ban a West Indian chap who worked as a street cleaner from wearing a Union Jack bandana as it was offending the muslim population VERY LIVE AND LET LIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) That is the point though multiculturalism has tipped over the edge and we are entirely at fault as its of our own making. Ask most recent immigrants and they don't want special attention just to be left to follow their own traditions etc. What we have is generally a problem with labour run councils pandering to every minority group and getting everyones back up. Other cultures don't get offended we celebrate Christmas its accepted so why people think it upsets them is beyond me. The big point is when in the UK what should they have to do? Do we say our local jews none of that silly cap malarky how far do you take it. I have no issue with turbans even though I used to find it comical the local delivery boy for Dominoes was allowed to use his instead of a crash helmet He did find out the hard way it wasn't as good but that added to my cultural entertainment. Oh and mushroom that is what you get for voting in a labour council Edited April 14, 2011 by al4x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) That is the point though multiculturalism has tipped over the edge and we are entirely at fault as its of our own making. Ask most recent immigrants and they don't want special attention just to be left to follow their own traditions etc. What we have is generally a problem with labour run councils pandering to every minority group and getting everyones back up. Other cultures don't get offended we celebrate Christmas its accepted so why people think it upsets them is beyond me. The big point is when in the UK what should they have to do? Do we say our local jews none of that silly cap malarky how far do you take it. I have no issue with turbans even though I used to find it comical the local delivery boy for Dominoes was allowed to use his instead of a crash helmet He did find out the hard way it wasn't as good but that added to my cultural entertainment. Oh and mushroom that is what you get for voting in a labour council Er Al4x that's what you get when a predominantly muslim council is voted in by a majority muslims who have moved into an area and ghetto'd and made it filthy until all other ethnic identities leave. I won't vote until BNP tone down the racism or UKIP get a backbone Brierfield and Nelson North - Mohammed Iqbal (Labour) Edited April 14, 2011 by mushroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Er Al4x that's what you get when a predominantly muslim council is voted in by a majority muslims who have moved into an area and ghetto'd and made it filthy until all other ethnic identities leave. I won't vote until BNP tone down the racism or UKIP get a backbone Brierfield and Nelson North - Mohammed Iqbal (Labour) Not true! The reason you have a predominantly Muslim council is because of people like you. The answer is in your post. Here, I'll give you a clue.... Election Results Results for Brierfield Town Council, East Ward By-election 22nd July 2010 View pages in this section BEGUM, Feeraz - 16 votes BENNETT, Kathleen - 109 votes HAWKINS, Joan - 176 votes IQBAL, Yasser - 557 votes Yasser Iqbal is duly elected Councillor for the East Ward of Brierfield Town Council Electorate - 2,523 Turnout - 34.3% And yes, you are a rascist. Just because you conveniently add the Spanish to the list of races you choose to accept does not exclude you from being a rascist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 and why is it a crime to be racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 and why is it a crime to be racist It isn't. It is a crime to discriminate between people because of race, religion, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 so then you can have groups like the black peelers assc. etc etc and that is ok but you wudnt be alound a white peelers assc. you can have songs on mtv singing about black power and black pride but it would be a outcry if it was a song about white power seems to be its only whites who are racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) Not true! The reason you have a predominantly Muslim council is because of people like you. The answer is in your post. Here, I'll give you a clue.... Election Results Results for Brierfield Town Council, East Ward By-election 22nd July 2010 View pages in this section BEGUM, Feeraz - 16 votes BENNETT, Kathleen - 109 votes HAWKINS, Joan - 176 votes IQBAL, Yasser - 557 votes Yasser Iqbal is duly elected Councillor for the East Ward of Brierfield Town Council Electorate - 2,523 Turnout - 34.3% And yes, you are a rascist. Just because you conveniently add the Spanish to the list of races you choose to accept does not exclude you from being a rascist. On your bike you moron just because I'm proud and not afraid to say what most people think. Strangely enough I have friends from all walks of life Pakistanis, Thais, Turks the list goes on they know my views and respect them! but I choose to have friends who want to come here for a better life not recreate the cess-pools of intolerance, hatred and filth that they have left behind. You really need to get the trust of some muslims so they can tell you how it is in their communities before you carry on spouting **** you have been told and obviously know nothing about. People like you make me sick you'd sell your own family so that you are not branded a racist. I couldn't give a hoot about your surrender monkey views or your opinion of me. Edited April 14, 2011 by mushroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I was going to point that out UKP but thought it might get that response apathy is a strange thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 It isn't. It is a crime to discriminate between people because of race, religion, etc. Ah so you mean just like the majority of muslims do with white Brits and constantly get away with it? Guaranteed your type will be the ones responsible for the storm that is heading our way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Keep it civil or the thread is going to be binned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I was going to point that out UKP but thought it might get that response apathy is a strange thing Before you start pointing out silly little statistics check the electorial list for Nelson, the Majority is muslim and even if every white person turned out to vote and a 1/4 of the muslim population did the white vote would still be out numbered. Hence they leave for better areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 what storm would that be? The one Nick Griffin has promised you is coming possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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