dadioles Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Its a sad reflection on some people that they feel a good night out means getting absolutely smashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome of the Woods Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I think the average pint is about 2.8 units. Not sure about anyone else but i can do 10 pints of bulmers and a few jaegerbombs or vodka redbulls afterwards if on a session with the lads which is probably once a month. Then leave a clear 24 hours before driving. That's what the missus is there for. That would put me in a coma! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Postcode lottery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 So you know when the alcohol levels in your system are at a sufficient level to allow you to pass a breath test do you? How long do you wait? 8 hours? 12? 24? And you know this do you? I'll call BS on that. There you go :good: :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 There you go :good: :good: It said "You should be dead by now" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Its the intent that is different. Like the murder/manslaughter analogy - the result is the same, but the intent is different. Someone who gets straight in their car after 5 pints and reads 150 on the breath test is a bit different to someone who gets in at 2am, drives at 4pm the day after and reads 41 on the machine. One knows they are over the limit and totally unfit to drive, the other probably thinks he/she is ok but in reality could still be slightly over. If you drank 30 units in the space of say 6 hours and stop at midnight, then you could potentially have to wait 30 hours before you drive again in order for the alcohol to completely clear your system. How many people wait that long before driving again, every time they have a session? Phaedra, I am well aware of how alcohol clears the body, hence I had posted an example before you told me to look it up. murder / manslaughter is way different than the above. for one thing its actions after the event in both the dd examples. 30 units in the space of six hours probebly better the person doesn't have guns at all imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 dadioles Posted Yesterday, 11:37 PM Its a sad reflection on some people that they feel a good night out means getting absolutely smashed. lol i thought thats why people went out? if i get wasted when out on a night i tend to feel too rough to drive so i either walk to Mcdonalds which isnt far n just pass out with a cheeseburger in my hand or stay at home in bed. this isnt me but i just thought it looked funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 30 units in the space of six hours probebly better the person doesn't have guns at all imo You should get out more,that used to be a dinner time session :lol:to set you up for the night ahead dont do it now cant do it now, but still like a good do, usually go away on a 3 or 4 day bender with the lads,sober up on the plane coming home ( everyone sat there with their heads in their hands ) dont hurt nowt nor no one,just a good laugh,so please dont lump all in the same boat , it is frankly both patronising and biggoted,oh and I dont drink and drive,which is what this thread is about, not an anti drinking soft lad affair. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushpower Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 interesting views ,a keeper friends boss was under the asumption if you were pulled an was positive you would lose facs/sg licence but my mate knows agood few who have been done for DD and no licences were revoked .it just goes to show.Am glad am tea total Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 You should get out more,that used to be a dinner time session :lol:to set you up for the night ahead dont do it now cant do it now, but still like a good do, usually go away on a 3 or 4 day bender with the lads,sober up on the plane coming home ( everyone sat there with their heads in their hands ) dont hurt nowt nor no one,just a good laugh,so please dont lump all in the same boat , it is frankly both patronising and biggoted,oh and I dont drink and drive,which is what this thread is about, not an anti drinking soft lad affair. KW drinking 30 units at a go has nothing to do with how hard or soft you are, just how daft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) drinking 30 units at a go has nothing to do with how hard or soft you are, just how daft no whats daft is some one (YOU) saying if you drink 30 units in a session you should not have a gun, who are you to judge? drinking is NOT illegal you know, drink driving is, but the likes of you cant seperate those that like and can handle a good session, from those who just want to cause mayhem regardless if they sucked a wine gum. KW Edited June 5, 2011 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I think he is just adding an opinion, that's what we often tend to do on forums, lets not get too excited here, drinking to excess (define that however you like) and driving (or guns) is not the best or cleverest idea! I like a drink, and there are times I have a few, sometimes too many, it's what we do then that is important...... just the same, 30 Units in 6 hours is not something I can do anymore! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 murder / manslaughter is way different than the above. for one thing its actions after the event in both the dd examples. 30 units in the space of six hours probebly better the person doesn't have guns at all imo Hey! These things happen at times! I'm not a keen drinker but I have put down that sort of level of alcohol in that time several times in my life. Then I go home, drink loads of water and go to bed. I stay home all of the next day and don't go near the car (unless the mrs is driving) or my guns. I don't think that makes me a bad person - I even put my keys in the digi safe before I go out because I know I won't be fit to look after them! I know what I'm letting myself in for and act accordingly. Should a SGC or FAC be revoked for drink driving - too right it should! It's irresponsible plain and simple. By all means go out and drink yourself silly, it's your body after all. But don't put others at risk whilst doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 You should get out more,that used to be a dinner time session :lol:to set you up for the night ahead dont do it now cant do it now, but still like a good do, usually go away on a 3 or 4 day bender with the lads,sober up on the plane coming home ( everyone sat there with their heads in their hands ) KW You sure you don't have a bit of Scots in you KW ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 You sure you don't have a bit of Scots in you KW ? I lived in peterhead for a few years (loved the place) second eldest was born there KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 A conviction for DD is often a symptom of other things going wrong as well. Its right that the police should look into it. Round here a DD will lose you your FAC or SGC without a doubt although I know people who have old DDs and still have licences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hey! These things happen at times! I'm not a keen drinker but I have put down that sort of level of alcohol in that time several times in my life. Then I go home, drink loads of water and go to bed. I stay home all of the next day and don't go near the car (unless the mrs is driving) or my guns. I don't think that makes me a bad person - I even put my keys in the digi safe before I go out because I know I won't be fit to look after them! I know what I'm letting myself in for and act accordingly. Should a SGC or FAC be revoked for drink driving - too right it should! It's irresponsible plain and simple. By all means go out and drink yourself silly, it's your body after all. But don't put others at risk whilst doing it. do you realise the 30 units in one go is more than a std full bottle of wiskey :blink: (no not a litre bottle a 70cl). nothing much wrong with a drink or two or even the occasional session but if you doing this sort of ammount you have a few issues to address if you partake in this sort of drinking regulary are you realy saying such a person is a fit and proper person to hold guns and ammunition in thier home? for pities sake most healthy adults would be passed out on the hall floor with thier keys still dangling from the door lock if they managed to open it in the first place after this sort of drinking people do very stupid things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 no whats daft is some one (YOU) saying if you drink 30 units in a session you should not have a gun, who are you to judge? drinking is NOT illegal you know, drink driving is, but the likes of you cant seperate those that like and can handle a good session, from those who just want to cause mayhem regardless if they sucked a wine gum. KW 30 units is like i say over a 70 cl bottle of scotch, should you have access to guns after drinking such an ammount not in my opinion as you are incapable of acting responsibly. i think you will find that those that "can handle" this sort of session will often be way over the drink drive limit when they actually appear perfectly sober, there is a reason why someones tollerance of alcohol goes that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Believe me when I say that early death through liver disease as the result of alcohol abuse is one of the most distressing ways to go.... A few pints.. ok. A few vodkas before you go out so that you get hammered senseless as early as possible in the evening because you have not had a good time unless paralytic - you have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 lets not get all up on our moral high horses. if you dont drink fine. dont start saying that anyone who has ever got ****** is no longer a fit person to have a gun. We have enough **** and red tape thrown at us for gun possession. Just because I drink two bottles of wine on a Saturday night does not mean I am going to go on a shooting spree!! Drink driving has become a social stigma due to the deaths caused to innocent victims. Pissheads falling off the bog dont quite have the same stigma. If you drink drive whether before or after you only have one person to blame. If you lose your guns as a result then they probably dont mean enough to you to have just called a cab instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_No Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 It said "You should be dead by now" Got a mate to work out my consumption on my 18th, that was her conclusion! Cant drink like that now mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I think everyones missing the point a bit here. The crime of drink driving and thus showing disregard for the law and lack of sense is only half the reason for withdrawing a gun cert. The other half is the impact of you losing it and how you will react mentally. For one person I know losing their driving licence was the start of a decent into hell as it was a catalyst for numerous knock on effects. They will probaly take it off you so that you dont do your self in or decide to go nut-nut like that #### wit taxi driver up north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 i think that is rubbish tbh. I don't see people going on a rampage because they got done for DD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 i think that is rubbish tbh. I don't see people going on a rampage because they got done for DD! Perhaps the rampage is a bit far fetched but the suicide risk is very real. Its not just the DD charge its the knock on effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 If I want to commit suicide, taking my guns away ain't going to stop me, many other ways to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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