MM Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Im sure this one must have been done before. I sat watching it last night live on tv, and (just my opinion) ive got to say, its damn cruel. What u think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Agree its ********. i just see red everytime i see a video on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Like the tradition, hate the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Some would say game shooting is cruel. What about stag hunting or foxhunting? Each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Bloody barbaric...Its a disgrace that Spain still persist with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Some would say game shooting is cruel. What about stag hunting or foxhunting? Each to their own. Mrs MM said the very same thing. How can i not enjoy bull fighting, yet i would support the local hunt? madness i tell ye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 The harm done to the bull is stretched out over a much longer period in bull fighting than fox hunting. The actual kill in a hunt is quite quick, the fox isn't darted every 10 minutes and left to fight some more. I just can't see any way of justifying bullfighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Bloody barbaric...Its a disgrace that Spain still persist with it. Hi All It is no more barbaric than dragging a fish out of the water with a barbed hook in its face or chasing stags foxes or hares until they are exhausted and then letting dogs rip them apart anyway it is a spanish tradition and nothing to do with us.We would soon get ****** off if a bunch of foreigners started to tell us what to do(EU APART) Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Hi All It is no more barbaric than dragging a fish out of the water with a barbed hook in its face or chasing stags foxes or hares until they are exhausted and then letting dogs rip them apart anyway it is a spanish tradition and nothing to do with us.We would soon get ****** off if a bunch of foreigners started to tell us what to do(EU APART) Geordie Just for the record staghounds do not rip the deer apart, the deer are shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Mrs MM said the very same thing. How can i not enjoy bull fighting, yet i would support the local hunt? madness i tell ye! There is a big difference. Fox hunting was banned due to class issues, nothing more nothing less. As soon as Blair was in power he couldn't wait to stick the boot into the 'upper classes' as he saw them. Bullfighting is a 'sport' for the people in Spain and South America. It's not percieved as an 'upper class' sport there, just a day out for the family. Bullfighting was originally a sport for the aristocracy and took place on horseback. King Felipe V took exception to the sport however and banned the aristocracy from taking part, believing it to be a bad example to the public. After the ban commoners accepted the sport as their own and, since they could not afford horses, developed the practice of dodging the bulls on foot, unarmed. This transformation occurred around 1724. Still don't agree with it mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 What they do in Spain is their business. It's not my cup of tea. It's a one sided affair, but occasionally the bull gores the matador. I probably shouldn't enjoy that bit, but I usually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn_Owl Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Each to their own, I agree. Bullfighting has just been banned in Barcelona one of the country's biggest supporters but at the last 'tournament' only 700 spectators watched, basicaly an empty arena in central Barca'. Their second arena is now a shopping mall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 but occasionally the bull gores the matador. I probably shouldn't enjoy that bit, but I usually do. Yep...that floats my boat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 im not agaisnt it as its there history so they have a right to take part , same here with fox hunting but we were stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 well i dont mind it and cant se the problem, humans are animals lions kill a buff slowly whats the diffrence, incomeing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 You want to see cruel. some of the scenes are quite shocking, you have been warned! Yeah, that's pretty grim. From 1.45 - 2.00 in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Hi All It is no more barbaric than dragging a fish out of the water with a barbed hook in its face or chasing stags foxes or hares until they are exhausted and then letting dogs rip them apart anyway it is a spanish tradition and nothing to do with us.We would soon get ****** off if a bunch of foreigners started to tell us what to do(EU APART) Geordie I beg to differ..the fish are returned alive and not lacerated, and Fox, Hares and Deer have an opportunity to escape as many did...Every Bull that enters the ring leaves lifeless, and blood let on the back of a trailor...if its lucky, many just get dragged out still alive by the hooves. By the way the Bloody foreigners have been telling us what to do since the mid seventies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Many younger Spaniards don't agree with the practice on cruelty grounds. It is a tradition, but it's a dying tradition that will peter out over the next few years as the older generation also peter out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 It is cruel and needless. Tradition? So is morris dancing - dosen't make it right. I'm not a big fan of fox hunting but it's a world away from bullfighting. The fox is a wild animal that, until the time of it's death, is free to roam. It's numbers need to be controlled and killing a fox has a benefit to society, whereas bulls are captive animals that are not vermin and don't go around killing poultry. The long-and-short of it is that the bull is tortured to death so a small man in tight trousers can get some flowers thrown at him. The 1980s gold-braided waistcoat is a bit 'flamboyant' too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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