njc110381 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I had a bit of a giggle tonight. Went out to my stalking ground after Deer and took the .338 again. Well there were no Deer about so I started the long walk back up the hill to the truck. As I got to the top of the hill I noticed some movement to my left about 20 feet away. A mole hill was moving. Well as I had a round chambered it made sense to have a go. Result - a very dead mole and a very big hole where his hill was. I'm well chuffed, another species taken by the not so common calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 sweeeeet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I laughed even more when I told the guy who runs the place. He just looked at me and said "you're off your head you are, I'm amazed they let you have that thing" - and then burst out laughing! Personally I thought that as it got the job done it was a great plan?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 hey dead is dead just out of interest how did you go about getting that .338 my flo said she would have to have a good think about me haveing a 300win mag let alone a 338! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I guess I just nagged until they were that bored they gave up! I had my .375H&H for use in Canada and downgraded when I came back. I had to argue a bit but in the end they were ok with the .338 as a compromise (I wanted to keep the .375 really). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 i shall be submitting a variation in the morning for a .338 for mole control... how many rounds should i ask for :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 4000/3000 theres a lot of moles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Buy 300 hold 400 was what I went for! Strangely I did have the conversation with the head of my firearms department once when he said "what could you need to shoot that isn't vermin, fox or deer". I replied "Moles"? He paused briefly before I followed it up with "well I have shot them with my shotgun before so why not a rifle given that the ground is a safe backstop and a mole isn't protected?". As much as it bothered him he couldn't think of any reason why I shouldn't and accepted my point. It's not illegal and not dangerous so there was no reason to disagree. I think that's how I've got so far in such a short time. I keep throwing wildcards at them and to be honest I don't think they know how to argue with me? When the law allows it and it's safe, they really don't have a leg to stand on no matter how daft it may sound? Mix that with the fact that the head of department in Gloucestershire is very accepting of anything as long as it falls within the guidelines and you can get a long way. I'm sure many other forces wouldn't stand for it but if taken to court over it they would probably lose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I laughed even more when I told the guy who runs the place. He just looked at me and said "you're off your head you are, I'm amazed they let you have that thing" - and then burst out laughing! Personally I thought that as it got the job done it was a great plan?! Not being funny but I think you are a bit of an idiot, as a fellow stalker I wouldn't go on a public forum broadcasting that I'd shot a mole with a .338 If your FEO heard that it'd probably be back in the shop pronto. It's just misuse/abuse of your responsibility as a FAC holder. Vermin or not it's just stupidity. If my shoot capt or even farmer on any of the syndicates / land I'm on saw or heard such a thing it'd be goodbye... T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Buy 300 hold 400 was what I went for! Strangely I did have the conversation with the head of my firearms department once when he said "what could you need to shoot that isn't vermin, fox or deer". I replied "Moles"? He paused briefly before I followed it up with "well I have shot them with my shotgun before so why not a rifle given that the ground is a safe backstop and a mole isn't protected?". As much as it bothered him he couldn't think of any reason why I shouldn't and accepted my point. It's not illegal and not dangerous so there was no reason to disagree. I think that's how I've got so far in such a short time. I keep throwing wildcards at them and to be honest I don't think they know how to argue with me? When the law allows it and it's safe, they really don't have a leg to stand on no matter how daft it may sound? Mix that with the fact that the head of department in Gloucestershire is very accepting of anything as long as it falls within the guidelines and you can get a long way. I'm sure many other forces wouldn't stand for it but if taken to court over it they would probably lose? this is all true. we as shooter have the power to say "your rong and i do have a reson for this" as for the post last post calling you an idiot ****** him a moles vermin you shot it end of it dident suffer. did you say it was for red deer or roe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Highsea's Take that arguement to you FEO and see if they give you one- I bet they don't. He could swat flies with it for all I care I just wouldnt announce it on a public forum where it's common knowledge the police patrol. Idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 hey dead is dead just out of interest how did you go about getting that .338 my flo said she would have to have a good think about me haveing a 300win mag let alone a 338! I believe it's a .338 Fed not .338 Mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's a .338 win mag I believe about 4000ft lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) Highsea's Take that arguement to you FEO and see if they give you one- I bet they don't. He could swat flies with it for all I care I just wouldnt announce it on a public forum where it's common knowledge the police patrol. Idiot. Well actually Tommo I took the arguement to my FEO (yes I actually talk to mine, do you?) when I applied for my combi gun and any other lawful quarry condition. Shooting moles was one of the arguements I put forward as it's perhaps more common than you realise? At the end of the day, how is it different to shooting at a clay pigeon led on the sand at a shooting range? Or shooting at a moose in America? As long as the bullet hits the ground safely and does the intended job legally it's not a problem. I assume you either pay for your stalking rather than get paid for it, or perhaps just never speak to your firearms department other than at renewal? It's not something I bought the .338 for, but it works and is lawful. So lets get a couple of things straight... 1. Don't throw insults 2. Get your facts right first if you must ignore the above advice. Edit... I don't generally bite when someone is handing out insults but this really bugs me. Whenever a bigger calibre is mentioned, people start getting weird about it? Everyone's entitled to an opinion and generally it's good to share our thoughts, but there's no need to make personal insults. It's rude and unnecessary. Edited July 29, 2011 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Well actually Tommo I took the arguement to my FEO (yes I actually talk to mine, do you?) when I applied for my combi gun and any other lawful quarry condition. Shooting moles was one of the arguements I put forward as it's perhaps more common than you realise? Aww, disappointed, i thought you had moles specifically named on your ticket for your .338 Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 No, just Deer listed. But they do fall under other lawful quarry. Why don't we all just stick with "if it's legal, don't knock it until you've tried it"? I don't want to cause an arguement here because we see enough of that these days without my help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) No, just Deer listed. But they do fall under other lawful quarry. Why don't we all just stick with "if it's legal, don't knock it until you've tried it"? I don't want to cause an arguement here because we see enough of that these days without my help. Do you gat any 'runners' with the moles or are they all head shots? Have you considered a .17hmr? Heard lots about them. Edited July 29, 2011 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Aww, disappointed, i thought you had moles specifically named on your ticket for your .338 Mark now that would be funny "deer target shooting and the humane destruction of moles" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Well actually Tommo I took the arguement to my FEO (yes I actually talk to mine, do you?) when I applied for my combi gun and any other lawful quarry condition. Shooting moles was one of the arguements I put forward as it's perhaps more common than you realise? At the end of the day, how is it different to shooting at a clay pigeon led on the sand at a shooting range? Or shooting at a moose in America? As long as the bullet hits the ground safely and does the intended job legally it's not a problem. I assume you either pay for your stalking rather than get paid for it, or perhaps just never speak to your firearms department other than at renewal? It's not something I bought the .338 for, but it works and is lawful. So lets get a couple of things straight... 1. Don't throw insults 2. Get your facts right first if you must ignore the above advice. Edit... I don't generally bite when someone is handing out insults but this really bugs me. Whenever a bigger calibre is mentioned, people start getting weird about it? Everyone's entitled to an opinion and generally it's good to share our thoughts, but there's no need to make personal insults. It's rude and unnecessary. well said . now wheres those moles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I dont believe you, i have seen your shooting of late so im afraid if there is no photo then your just another keyboard shooter.....so there... ...bl00dy keyboard shooters do my ed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Why don't we all just stick with "if it's legal, don't knock it until you've tried it"? That's fine until somebody suggests anal :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 That's fine until somebody suggests anal :blink: or that you marry a bloke called Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hmmm, instead of putting in for a .22 for rabbits, I shall now apply for a .50 for humane destruction of moles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I had a bit of a giggle tonight. Went out to my stalking ground after Deer and took the .338 again. Well there were no Deer about so I started the long walk back up the hill to the truck. As I got to the top of the hill I noticed some movement to my left about 20 feet away. A mole hill was moving. Well as I had a round chambered it made sense to have a go. Result - a very dead mole and a very big hole where his hill was. I'm well chuffed, another species taken by the not so common calibre. I'm not going to fault you or start throwing any insults about this, all I will do is leave you with a question: Do you think that this is the wisest of things to put on an internet forum where you stand the chance of getting responsible shooters seen as a bunch of trigger happy shoot anything that moves type of people? Surely we have enough to contend with without giving the "antis" any more ammunition! This might well be "legal" but is it something that we want to be "broadcasting" or "bragging about"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 In my opinion it's no worse than nuggets talking about taking out 600/704 yard hares/rabbits.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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