Chard Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 If older drivers are that bad, how come their insurance is cheaper? Why is it expensive for young drivers? It's a no-brainer, for those with a brain. :lol: This is about the most sensible statement on this thread. You can take it from me that insurance companies will have researched this very closely. It's the young cornholers who are the problem on the road. They don't know their harris from their elbow, think they know it all, but actually know **** all, and aren't actually capable of controlling their chavmobiles with baked bean can exhausts So **** off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Chard, has this touched a nerve, you old *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Said by whom? Befuddled old ******s presumably?? I've been driving almost 35 years, a lot of it doing various types of competition driving, and i can feel my driving ability getting worse and i'm only 50. Doesn't mean all old drivers are bad but some really really shouldn't be driving and that's a fact!! Ah, you know me! Actually, it was a few experienced bus drivers. We were discussing this very subject on the clay range and I was surprised just how favourable their joint opinion was of older drivers. Having said that, I do agree about an independent medical check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Chard, has this touched a nerve, you old *** Nah, they're just baldwilly boys You expect them to talk **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Looks like Gimperley is writing War & Peace on his steam-driven IPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 You can take it from me that insurance companies will have researched this very closely. Its a good job they don't do research on John Deere's, panzerwagen's and old **** called D!ck Mould Had a young lad pull out on me on Monday, no idea how I missed him, there are bad drivers from all age groups but the insurance companies work out the risks and deem the old ones pose less risk as a group. I know a few youngish people who need glasses to drive but don't due to vanity, the older ones have given up on vanity now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 My old dad is 83, sprightly and fit, has been driving since he was 14 has never had an accident or a claim. He is the kind of driver the insurers like, yet his driving is appalling, because of his accident free driving history he thinks he is the only driver that should be allowed on the road. He has no respect for any other roadusers who regardless of the situation are always in the wrong. His judgement and perception are non existant and many a time i have had to warn him and even snatch the steering wheel out of his hand to stop being hit or hitting someone else on the times i have had to be in his car with him. I will not allow my children to travel with him and on sundays when he goes out for lunch he drinks and drives without realising it, even though i tell him he just shrugs it off. He should not be driving and many a time i actually hope he does get stopped and breathylised to get him off the road. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I think you should be reporting him. If not for his own good, think about some poor sod he might knock down, after a drink. I suspect most drink drivers are under 60 - another no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I know where you are coming from Gordon and i find myself in a very difficult situation. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjsc Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Retests for all,its not only the old who have poor driving standards,your licence is a privilidge not a given. I have seen poor drivers who are elderly. I have seen far more younger and middle aged drivers who were truly appalling. I have yet to see an elderly driver on a mobile phone. Their reactions and eyesight may not be what they were, but they lack the arrogance that says you can phone or text whilst driving, tail gate, drive at 100mph on the motorway - or worse still, on ordinary roads, cut people up and rant and rave, at the slightest incident. They don't drive around with the car radio on so loud it hurts your ears. Older drivers are an easy target - try picking on a more deserving group. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Old people, you can't live with them, you can't kill 'em (not legally anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Retests for all,its not only the old who have poor driving standards,your licence is a privilidge not a given. My dad is 84 and his eyesight has improved with age, now does not need glasses. Sorry about your GF, but if the driver was 32, I suspect you would not be posting the same post stating needing glasses or medical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I find most people over 65 are a danger when making a cup of tea let alone driving 1 tonne of metal. Most people over that age (and this is my experience, no statistics or facts) don't go much further than their local high street so why not do us all a favour and buy an electric buggy and ditch the motor. Their shopping can be done on line by a younger relative if they are not too aware of the internet. If friends and family visited them more often they would not need to venture out so much and be content with pottering around the garden, or tending to the potted plants if they don't have a garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 No matter their age, when a driver pulls out in front of somebody the first thing out their mouth........ Sorry i didn't see you Time for yearly eye tests starting from age 17, no pass certificate results in no Insurance or road tax, whichever is easier to apply. Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 This is about the most sensible statement on this thread. You can take it from me that insurance companies will have researched this very closely. It's the young cornholers who are the problem on the road. They don't know their harris from their elbow, think they know it all, but actually know **** all, and aren't actually capable of controlling their chavmobiles with baked bean can exhausts So **** off I've been driving 60 years and never had an accident.........seen dozens........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Lets turn this around purely for arguements sake, why not retest every new driver after 5 years to be sure we should allow them to continue on the road. How many bad habits do you pick up quickly and the boost in confidence which makes the young feel invincible. They should stop people picking on the old un's who need to be able to get around because their circle of friends is getting smaller all the time, and their families are busy. An old un in waiting, but not for toooo long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I find most people over 65 are a danger when making a cup of tea let alone driving 1 tonne of metal. Most people over that age (and this is my experience, no statistics or facts) don't go much further than their local high street so why not do us all a favour and buy an electric buggy and ditch the motor. Their shopping can be done on line by a younger relative if they are not too aware of the internet. If friends and family visited them more often they would not need to venture out so much and be content with pottering around the garden, or tending to the potted plants if they don't have a garden. Find this post quite insulting and patronising.My Dad left the Army in 1945 fully qualified to drive any vehicle whether it was on wheels or tracks but never sat a test.He was driving up until the day before he died at the age of 75 without any problems except losing his class 1 at 64 following a heart attack.We live in avery rural area,and his vehicle was his only means of transport. Re-read your last paragraph,I think that statement is not only ridiculous but astoundingly insulting. Why don't you do us all a favour and engage your brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I think you all need to lay off the young drivers... Meet me down at Sainsbury's car park at 2300 tonight and I'll show you the best doughnut/handbreak turn combo around a lampost you have ever seen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I've been driving 60 years and never had an accident.........seen dozens........ No Doubt in your rear view mirror as you have no concept of the carnage you cause I am certain as you get older you become a better driver (to a point) and an even worse passenger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 (and this is my experience, no statistics or facts) Well there are plenty of statistics and facts that prove older drivers are safer, just ask the insurance companies! How many times has there been a new topic related to car insurance going up and "help my 17-22 year old has been quoted £10,000 for a 1.1 Saxo worth only £500" Thats the facts for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I accept northeastshooter's girlfriend had a bad experience with an older driver, but this has led on to a series of posts about older drivers. I believe this is totally and utterly wrong. Any campaign should be aimed at poor drivers and maintaining high standards. Periodic testing of older drivers would be a logistical nightmare, given the number about. Health and eyesight checks - well I grant you that these rarely improve with age. When I see yearly medicals, re-tests for the under 40s, I will happily go along with testing older drivers. Perhaps the under 40s could have a brain scan, just to confirm that one still exists - I have come across three in the last hour, who might have failed one. The whole thread is ageist and in poor taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 yes, obviously age has no effect on the faculties whatsoever, eyesight, reaction times, strength and co-ordination actually get better after the age of 75, in fact driving should be compulsory over the age of 80, with no glasses or checks of any kind............ Sadly the NHS, DVLA and the insurance companies disagree and we can lay the "insurance is cheaper for older drivers" myth to rest too as it rises very steeply after 70, something akin to 25 year olds if not higher........of course that will just be the insurance companies being ageist, not because they're a bloody liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Perhaps a fairer retesting policy could be worked out in conjunction with the nectar points scheme. As soon as your Nectar card shows that you've bought Werthers any more than once a year you automatically get called in for a retest. The Werthers co-efficient clearly indicates biological age rather than actual age and hence is fairer for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Perhaps a fairer retesting policy could be worked out in conjunction with the nectar points scheme. As soon as your Nectar card shows that you've bought Werthers any more than once a year you automatically get called in for a retest. The Werthers co-efficient clearly indicates biological age rather than actual age and hence is fairer for all. Unfortunately your calculations are flawed as you have taken no account of the paedophile effect.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Unfortunately your calculations are flawed as you have taken no account of the paedophile effect.... I have. They are the chosen bait of the ageing nonce. Edited August 5, 2011 by ack-ack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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