southeastpete Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 the only time i'd be able to get my guns in that situation is when i head to my girlfriends to do some rabbiting, and then slip into the bedroom before i head home. Then i just slip the gun under the bed for 3-4 minutes until i'm done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 a shop keeper round here shot 2 or 3 burglars before, wounded all of them. one lad was running off up the street and he shot him in the **** with a bolt action 22. he got off with it, harry his name is. now known as dirty harry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 In my ideal world you'd be allowed to shoot a burgler in the back. If he's running away he's guilty; if you shout a warning telling him to stop and give himself up and he keeps running he's sticking the finger up to you and the law, forfeiting his right to its protection. Knock his spine through his chest, get him off your property and leave him for the garbage collection, knowing you've made the world a better place. The burglery rate would plummet. The only tragedy in the Tony Martin case, other than the unjust incarceration of Mr Martin, was that he didn't kill both the thieving ***** ********. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg1 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 yes but if hes paniced and quickly fired then he might not of had time to aim and just fired. But he shouldn't have aimed!! ..He should have waited till he started to run, lift the gun with both arms and pushed through the target and kept the gun moving....ALWAYS keep the gun moving dammit !! atvb sg1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I heard the chap detained for attempted murder had been released without charge. It may be simple defence - havent heard anything about 'weed'. This is a different case to the one being discussed in this thread. The suggestions now seem to be that the cannabis growing homeowner shot the burglar in the leg with an air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) This is a different case to the one being discussed in this thread. The suggestions now seem to be that the cannabis growing homeowner shot the burglar in the leg with an air rifle. In that case he definitely has been watching too much lock stock. Edited October 9, 2011 by artschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg1 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 In that case he definitely has been watching too much lock stock. Will everyone just stop getting shot? lol atvb sg1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-15230951 Hmm seems like a result all round for the police "prohibited" interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloggs Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-15230951 Hmm seems like a result all round for the police "prohibited" interesting... If was ever in this unfortunate situation then being in the RAF I'd use the 'Rules of engagement' that we have to strictly abide by - otherwise you'll not be defended in a court of law, a very lonely place to be me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 If you tackle an intuder with any firearm you deserve all you get in court. There is no sumery execution law for such offences and the act of unlocking a safe alone will or should negate any self defence argument. Doing them over with a fire poker etc that was to hand in the place of the confrontation will be viewed very differently by the CPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 What is in law and what burglers deserve are two differant things. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 What is in law and what burglers deserve are two differant things. Dave Quite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 If you tackle an intuder with any firearm you deserve all you get in court. There is no sumery execution law for such offences and the act of unlocking a safe alone will or should negate any self defence argument. Doing them over with a fire poker etc that was to hand in the place of the confrontation will be viewed very differently by the CPS so your about to go out lamping rifle in hand coming down stairs (rifle slip kept hung up with coats) some scrote has broken in to your house and coming towards you with something in his hand (its dark so as not to disturb family in bed) how easy would it be to slip the magazine in to protect yourself would you still deserve all you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadge-it Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I think everyone would do what they could to defend there home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloggs Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 One thing we are taught (RAF) is, that in a situation like this just cocking the weapon is usually enough to deter anybody. The weapon doesn't even have to loaded I know for a fact that if somebody cocked a (weapon without me knowing it was unloaded)and pointed it in my direction I would fill my panties with brown stuff and do exactly what they instructed. Effectively the same result without anyone getting hurt and saves the plaintiff going to jail..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I still say its better to bang them over the head with the barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 so your about to go out lamping rifle in hand coming down stairs (rifle slip kept hung up with coats) some scrote has broken in to your house and coming towards you with something in his hand (its dark so as not to disturb family in bed) how easy would it be to slip the magazine in to protect yourself would you still deserve all you get? or you might have the rifle out for cleaning and it was the first thing to hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Self defence has to be proportional to the threat and should not be pre-meditated (planned). Want to effect every legal gun owner in the UK? then use a gun, keep it handy and go to prison as a result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 We won't know the full facts 'til it comes to court, but I'd put money on my theory that the guy doesn't have a certificate for his gun and he's been growing dope and selling it....All fine 'til one of the customers decides to steal the crop--or cash from the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 We won't know the full facts 'til it comes to court, but I'd put money on my theory that the guy doesn't have a certificate for his gun and he's been growing dope and selling it....All fine 'til one of the customers decides to steal the crop--or cash from the house. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I beleive it was an air rifle so he probably doesn't have it on ticket!! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Self defence has to be proportional to the threat and should not be pre-meditated (planned). Want to effect every legal gun owner in the UK? then use a gun, keep it handy and go to prison as a result Well perhaps the law should be changed so a householder can use lethal force on an intruder breaking into your house, it would reduce burglary offences Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 One thing we are taught (RAF) is, that in a situation like this just cocking the weapon is usually enough to deter anybody. The weapon doesn't even have to loaded I know for a fact that if somebody cocked a (weapon without me knowing it was unloaded)and pointed it in my direction I would fill my panties with brown stuff and do exactly what they instructed. Effectively the same result without anyone getting hurt and saves the plaintiff going to jail..... What they taught us in the paras was if you cock your weapon you're going to be firing it. I wouldnt advise anybody to cock a weapon as a bluff ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 What I was taught was never to point a weapon at anything you didn't want to kill loaded or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 What I was taught was never to point a weapon at anything you didn't want to kill loaded or not +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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