Poacher Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 A question asked by the BBC today, it seems that everyone is pretty ****** off with the way this country has been (and continues) to be going To look at some of the comments posted look at http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jsp...4430paginator It seems the concensus is pretty strong. However, as per usual these views are typically british in that they stay within the four walls of their homes, and no one takes a stand. What do you reckon. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I think this is all a bit OTT I dont have a problem with Muslims. And what are we supposed to take a stand against? Muslims? what good will that do us? Overall I am happy with this country, us as the people of this country, (the ones of us that do still work) are still fighting on to feed our families, buy our cars, guns etc. I dont think there is a Muslim extremism problem.. its just somthing for people to have a go at.. Because the British people love to blame people :yp: The best thing we can do is to keep living our lives like we always did. Its not Sooooo bad afterall is it? :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Ah, a question for the "common sense party". Just you wait till I win the Euro Millions and set up my common sense party.... The common sense answer is that people who come to this country to seek asylum or flee persecution should embrace England and the English way of life. Number 1, that means speaking English and swearing allegiance to the queen (period), number 2 that means paying your way, keeping your head down and no trouble with the law, number 3 no bleating about how your culture is not being respected - if you want your culture respected then I am afraid it's back to country of origin - that would of course probably be the country that fails to respect human rights, fails to respect woman, fails to practice freedom of religion etc and the country you wanted to escape from??? I am getting pretty sick of the media lovies bleating and pandering to various select minorities. If you wanted a role model minority it would be the Chinese - no fuss grafters. When was the last time you saw a Chinese person on telly for blowing up a train, preaching religious hatred, trying to get a school in central london to change the Curriculum so the kids have to speak Chinese, moaning that their culture was being ignored... they are all too busy working and too pleased to be in a country where they have a vote and aren't being run over by tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 ''I dont think there is a Muslim extremism problem.. its just somthing for people to have a go at.. Because the British people love to blame people :yp:'' Tell that to the families of the people killed in the July bombings......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickymiroku Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 hi mungler, a nice balanced reply, perhaps you should stand for ellection, youd get my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 ''I dont think there is a Muslim extremism problem.. its just somthing for people to have a go at.. Because the British people love to blame people '' Tell that to the families of the people killed in the July bombings......... We all know that this is not what all muslims are like. This actions have happend all around the world.. America, Bali, London and more.. Yes it sickened me and its sad, but unless all of us in this world learn to help each other, and live peacefully together, things will just get worse. I still think the the worst terrorist atack latley was Americas war against chemical, biological, and WMD weapons against Iraq, were infact they used chemical agents over Iraqi soil themselves, and bombed the living daylights out of their country.. and what good did that do? has made the world a worse place, and turns foreign people against our free country even more. War will not solve anything. Unfortunatley Americas goverment will only learn this when everyone is dead. Any Tony is playing the game with America too.. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I agree with you Mungler. You see it's now thought by Tony Bliar that the problem is human rights. That's it. Apparently THEY have too many rights, and we don't have enough. THEY being the ungodly, the illegal immigrants, the animal rights loonies etc. Funny thing that. Until the law mongers and politicians got hold of it (they being paid £squillions and all that), I had the vague idea that the human rights issue was roughly in balance in this country. This was some years ago of course. And then the gravy train started rolling. Lawyers then decided what a good scam it would be if they could use the issue of human rights as a means to get unlawful people off the hook for misdeeds. Not that they didn't have enough excuses already in their notebooks, but hey, another addition would be fine. And then, as in nature, the imbalance became noticed, and politicians (who started the imbalance) lifted their hands in horror at this mongrel in their midst (did I say that they bred the mongrel?). Who would have thought that the very same Tony Bliar has a beloved wifey that is paid £squillions for inventing and developing this now undesirable human rights argument? I know a few muslims in my job as a salesman. Great folks they are too. Just as open minded as yer average bred non immigrant, and they have a fierce tendency to defend the same virtues as us. Family life, respect for the law etc., etc. As in most populations it is the 2% that are nutters that are the problem. God save us from religious nutters (and Christians have a few - just look at Irish politics). Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I think this is all a bit OTT I dont have a problem with Muslims. And what are we supposed to take a stand against? Muslims? what good will that do us? Overall I am happy with this country, us as the people of this country, (the ones of us that do still work) are still fighting on to feed our families, buy our cars, guns etc. I dont think there is a Muslim extremism problem.. its just somthing for people to have a go at.. Because the British people love to blame people :yp: The best thing we can do is to keep living our lives like we always did. Its not Sooooo bad afterall is it? :yp: Just checked your age out of interest so can see how you wouldn't perhaps (with all due respect) understand what some of the older people here are talking about. Sorry chap but YES it is sooooo bad after all, after all that this spineless government has given away that belonged to the British people !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I would be tempted to say some bad things to that above, but thats not my style Just to let you know, I have been around for 18 years, and have witnessed some big changes.. good and bad, so dont tell me I havent seen anything :yp: What wets my gunpowder is, as people of this country dont have a say in anything any more. The goverment does whatever they like. EDIT: Looking back, this is going the wrong way now. I mean no offence, but when people put my veiws down because of my age it really gets me going. Please excuse me for getting huffy :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 i have the misfortune to work in an enviroment where every "customer" i meet is a drain on our government,be they black,white,yellow,brown or purple.the hands out,i deserve it mentality sickens me and its as endemic in the english white trash as it is in the "refugees".the pakistani family home is clean,the sommali house is too yet the work shy white scroungers are the most rascist,simply by virtue of the fact they see their nigerian neighbour getting something and they see it as being taken away from them. i have poles,lithuanians,jamacians,kosovans,irish and serbs working for me and they are as anti white chav as we are anti immigrant.the worst thing is i have to be nice to them but they dont know i voted bnp :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 A question asked by the BBC today, it seems that everyone is pretty ****** off with the way this country has been (and continues) to be going To look at some of the comments posted look at http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jsp...4430paginator It seems the concensus is pretty strong. However, as per usual these views are typically british in that they stay within the four walls of their homes, and no one takes a stand. What do you reckon. :yp: And what way is the country going in your opinion? That we have muslims, africans and eastern europeans living within our borders or we have offspring of these groups that are now classed as British? That we have a labour government in power banning everything that comes along? That we dont have government accountability? That we are now a satelite state of America? That the police are only interested in catching motorists instead of criminals? That we are in an illegal war in a foreign land which purpose was regime change? That there were terrorist attacks in Britain? That we have laws coming over from Brussels that have no useful application in the UK? That the NHS is in collapse? That children dont have a proper education? That we have an uncontrollable drugs problem? That house prices are so high first time buyers cant afford one? That we have a national debt in excess of 3 trillion pounds? or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 an extract from a danish site http://www.danishmuhammedcartoons.com/Home.html The Official Apology From Denmark to the Muslim World,simply called "We´re Sorry! We´re sorry we gave you shelter when war drove you from your home country.... We´re sorry we took you in when others rejected you..... We´re sorry we gave you the opportunity to get a good education..... We´re sorry we gave you food and a home when you had non..... We´re sorry we let you re-unite with your family when your homeland was no longer safe... We´re sorry we never forced you to work while WE paid all your bills..... We´re sorry we gave you almost FREE rent,phone,internet,car and school for your 10 kids... We´re sorry we build you Mosques so you could worship your religion in our Christian land... We´re sorry we never forced you to learn our language after staying 30 years!.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I would be tempted to say some bad things to that above, but thats not my style :o Just to let you know, I have been around for 18 years, and have witnessed some big changes.. good and bad, so dont tell me I havent seen anything What wets my gunpowder is, as people of this country dont have a say in anything any more. The goverment does whatever they like. EDIT: Looking back, this is going the wrong way now. I mean no offence, but when people put my veiws down because of my age it really gets me going. Please excuse me for getting huffy Take it you have not read the Koran them?? To a Muslim ALL non beleivers (according to the Koran which they ALL aspire to) all NON beleivers in Mohhamed should be sold as slaves and IF they cant make enough money from selling you you are worth LESS than a Camel and being that worthless should be slaughtered Religion of PEACE? My aunt fanny Muslim faith (according to their OWN holy scriptures) is a religion of HATRED and unwillingness to understand any other religion other than their own. SOME of the ones who emigrated here DO try to understand better our culture BUT When you have a Holy Book that preaches death to all other religions if they dont beleive in THEIR god what do you expect. Look at the poor sod who converted to a Christian when he spent time with a christian Aid group. Went to a Muslim Court and was sentensed the DEATH yeah DEATH because he converted to CHRISTIAN now THAT is intollerance and shows you JUST how these people view other faiths. Make you a challange. You go to a Muslim Holy city and build a Christian Church there and see how long YOU live there without being beheaded for dephiling their holy city etc and your church raised to the ground. Now take a look round Bradford London Newcastle Are you getting a picture? We let them build THEIR mosques here and TRY to let them intergrate into society and look what happened in Bradford then of course Bali Bombing London underground Twin towers And in Iraq the other week when our Army Personel came under attack the LOCALS were chanting Death to all Infadels and chanting anti US and UK troop slogans and chanting for the underground malitias Sorry but i fail to see WHY i should show trust in a people who have a LONG way to go in the Evolutionary stages to live more like MODERN day people and who beleive all non Muslims are BENEATH themselves. They bay on about their Human rights among other things in this country which shows JUST how ungrateful they are as in their OWN they HAD no rights. France is full of them America is full of them UK is full of them Canada is full of them You see how many of these will fit back intheir own country. Answer is less than a 1/4 they are spreading like wildfire and if you ask ME it's for one purpose. I will be voting BNP at the general for SURE LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 from the Koran.............. O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54 Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 To my mind we are all born equal until such time as serious crime or abuse of some kind is committed against you’re fellow man. There are without doubt many good folk of all faiths and nations and sadly a minority of bad eggs that make all the headlines. You should forfeit your entitlement to Human Rights protection if you endanger or take another life in a callous or thought out manner, such as murder or terrorism. Just about all the folk I know feel the same so just where do the ***** who think otherwise and make law on such matters get off….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Religous fanatics are dangerous. Period. Just remember it was the English that rampaged through the middle east on their crusades, not disimilar to what is going on now. Religion is the cause of all wars and most of the other trouble as well. Well it is the excuse used anyway, to be honest your average Christian or Muslim just want to get on with life and make it as good as possible. Anyone wanting to work and embrace Britian is welcome in my book. Every other free loading sack of ****e can sod off back home. Useless fact: The Virgin Mary is mentioned more times in the Koran than in the Bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 You should forfeit your entitlement to Human Rights protection if you endanger or take another life in a callous or thought out manner, such as murder or terrorism. Just about all the folk I know feel the same so just where do the ***** who think otherwise and make law on such matters get off….. Amen to that LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Michael Owen came through a full training session unscathed at their training camp in Portugal :o Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Anyone wanting to work and embrace Britian is welcome in my book. Every other free loading sack of ****e can sod off back home. Useless fact: The Virgin Mary is mentioned more times in the Koran than in the Bible. sounds like she got about a bit then....... joseph know anything about it with you on the top part though Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLINSRI Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 You don't have to be racist to realise that our countries being raped from the inside out! Border jumpers and fake asylum seeker coming here to suck our country dry. PC bull****-all i'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Why are the free loaders and criminals that are British born and bred any different from the immigrants? We should kick them all out (free loaders and criminals). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Why are the free loaders and criminals that are British born and bred any different from the immigrants? We should kick them all out (free loaders and criminals). they arent any different buddy, you just have to be prepared to deal with the mess in your own back yard, and send your neighbours junk back to him. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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