soontjen Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 i bought a new moderator for my 22lr first time out i heard a high piched ting noise ? i was getting 2 or 3 in a 1 inch square out of a 5 mag and the rest flyer's thinking it was clipping i took it to the gun shop and spoke to the manufacturer he recommended drilling the baffles out to 7 mm which was done by the shop they said it looked like it had been clipping on two baffles ? took it out today and the first bullet a magtech 22 banged as if i had no silencer on the next few ok i then tried eley 22 and one out of 15 banged as if i had no silencer on cci 25 bullet's two banged as if i had no silencer on the silencer was on at all times and the rifle very accurate just wondered what you think ? cheer's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Silencers knackered IMO! Reason why not all cracked is that ammo load varies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 I'd take that back mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 i`m sorry but you shouldn`t need to be drilling baffles in a new mod, they should have replaced it straight off the bat and not ****** around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) i`m sorry but you shouldn`t need to be drilling baffles in a new mod, they should have replaced it straight off the bat and not faffed around and fobbed you off. Edited March 6, 2012 by CZ550Kevlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soontjen Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 thaank's for your reply's i called the shop and they gave me every reason on earth it's the ammo being damp because it was only 8 100 . the silencer thread is not tight when screwing it on . it is when fixed i'll phone the manufacturer today and see what they say like said above i think it should have been exchanged thank's again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Just a thought on the off chance, does the moderator resemble that one as at thread, "17HMR/22LR, General Shooting Matters, now on Page 2 and dated 28 Feb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) What make mod is it? I had a logun mod roofed for .22 and that sounded tingy as it had a variety of springs and washers inside, shouldn't need drilling either way Edited March 6, 2012 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradders Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 It does sound like you had a faulty mod if the bullets were clipping the baffles. Daft question but are you sure you were using sub-sonic ammo as normal velocity ammo will still make a crack as it breaks the sound barrier, its only sub-sonic that make hardly any noise at all with a mod fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 As above get some new subs and try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Send it back you should have asked for a new one when they said it needed drilling out. A new 22RF Mod should work ona 22 without need for any modification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soontjen Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 hello yes they are subs i did ask for an exchange they now say it's the ammo may be old or damp ? bo++++++ i know this is what's great about this forum sensible straight forward answares i do agree with what you all say an exchange i'll give it a go today and if no change i'll tell them i want it replaced regardless cheer's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 i bought a new moderator for my 22lr first time out i heard a high piched ting noise ? i was getting 2 or 3 in a 1 inch square out of a 5 mag and the rest flyer's thinking it was clipping i took it to the gun shop and spoke to the manufacturer he recommended drilling the baffles out to 7 mm which was done by the shop they said it looked like it had been clipping on two baffles ? took it out today and the first bullet a magtech 22 banged as if i had no silencer on the next few ok i then tried eley 22 and one out of 15 banged as if i had no silencer on cci 25 bullet's two banged as if i had no silencer on the silencer was on at all times and the rifle very accurate just wondered what you think ? cheer's What i think is the guy who recomended drilling the baffles out is a total bafoon, if it was clipping and it wasn't due to a poor muzzle thread it should have been replaced- its very hard to do this well (nr impossible without a lathe)baffles can be quite delicate and are easy to damage with a drill bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 i called the shop and they gave me every reason on earthit's the ammo being damp because it was only 8 100 . the silencer thread is not tight when screwing it on . it is when fixed i'll phone the manufacturer today and see what they say I very much doubt the manufactures will take it back after they have drilled the baffles... As for the ammo excuse, your getting fobbed off. This rifle you have, has there ever been another mod on it..? IE;..have you shot it with another mod on. If not it could be the thread on the barrel..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 hello yes they are subs i did ask for an exchange they now say it's the ammo may be old or damp ? bo++++++ i know this is what's great about this forum sensible straight forward answares i do agree with what you all say an exchange i'll give it a go today and if no change i'll tell them i want it replaced regardless cheer's If you get no joy with the shop, mention 'Trading Standards' to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I'd be demanding a replacement moderator, you should never have to drill a new moderator out. Blaming it on the ammo, I don't think so! It sounds like it was clipping before being drilled out, drilling it out may have stopped this however it should not be needed and is not rectifying the problem, only the symptoms. Something must be out of alignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Push your cleaning rod right through when the mod is fitted - see if it looks central, if not it is either the threads on the rifle or the threads on the mod that are badly cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soontjen Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 been out with the rifle again new ammo still getting 1 or 2 bang's out of 30 / 40 called the manufacturer asked for an exchange . again still won't accept it's the silencer and saying the gun not threaded properly he said the moderator as been adapted to the rifle and talked a load of balistic's and ended in saying he does'nt know what else he can do . charming decided to call the rifle importer and he confirmed my thinking well confirmed what is in front of me . the only thing changed is that the mod had been drilled out to 7mm on the say so of the manufacturer and this as altered the dimention's of the mod and no problem before . they couldn't see why the moderator had'nt been changed in the first place ,, which is what i asked them for so called into the shop today were i purchased the mod and again they are still saying cant see how it can be the silencer must be the ammo or rifle .. asked me to go in monday for them to test it i'll go in monday and ask well demand a new mod again . they will try to fob me off again .. i'll put the name of the manufacturer and the shop on to stop anyone else getting the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 thaank's for your reply's i called the shop and they gave me every reason on earth it's the ammo being damp because it was only 8 100 . the silencer thread is not tight when screwing it on . it is when fixed i'll phone the manufacturer today and see what they say like said above i think it should have been exchanged thank's again forget the trash they telling you go back in shop quoting the 1974 sales of goods act bla bla bla and tell them you want a new one they have to change it full stop colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Say you have had a word with Trading Standards (as mentioned) tell them about the Sale of Goods Acts and that the original mod should not need to have been altered at all to perform its originally designed function and that this has been confirmed by Trading Standards who are willing to take on your case unless a replacement part is supplied as, they say, this original part was clearly not 'fit for purpose' and not of 'merchantable quality'. Say it confidently and ask them what they want to do about it now, before you ask Trading Standards to take the case to prosecution as, at the moment your costs to rectify this are limited but will increase as the case is moved forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Say you have had a word with Trading Standards (as mentioned) tell them about the Sale of Goods Acts and that the original mod should not need to have been altered at all to perform its originally designed function and that this has been confirmed by Trading Standards who are willing to take on your case unless a replacement part is supplied as, they say, this original part was clearly not 'fit for purpose' and not of 'merchantable quality'. Say it confidently and ask them what they want to do about it now, before you ask Trading Standards to take the case to prosecution as, at the moment your costs to rectify this are limited but will increase as the case is moved forward? No trading stds are law, not to comply is a Criminal not a civil matter. As regards costs these are only incurred in a civil case. Regardless of who made it the end responsibility lays with the guy who sold it. Ask for a refund or exchange its your option if he don't comply then it is a criminal matter not a civil one a fact he should be well aware of as a retailer. If the seller altered it instead of returning it he has acted foolishly with no good reason and removed the responsibilitys of the origonal supllier to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FX90 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 It realy does not matter that the manufacturers may not take it back. The onus is on the shop that sold it.Do not take any more bad advice from them, just demand a new one or a refund, be very firm with them, any more baloney, tell them trading standards.Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 You should be able to look down the barrel with the mod fitted and by eye get a good idea if it is misaligned. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soontjen Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) been out today and tried a parker hale mod and another the very same one i'm having the problem with and no noise or anything proving that the problem must 100% be the drilling of the mod done by the shop popped into the shop on the way home told them what i had done tried the two mod's without any problem { even after all this sh++ with these people i must agree they are very good when working well } thinking they would exchange it surely .... was i wrong they insisted on testing the rifle i must be mad standing this b+++++ i asked them to romove it from my ticket and i'd just pay for a new one ..no we'll test the rifle and mod ..... can't go out till next satuarday so i agreed i know i must be crazy sent off for a variation today so can't do anything till it get's here anyway Edited March 13, 2012 by soontjen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Your mad!! Name and shame the shop please?? So you have paid another variation fee? Paid for a **** mod and told them too keep it and now going to buy another off them? GO ELSEWHERE so your nearly £100 down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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