Sharpshooter.123 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Need to pick your brains again!! Iv also used the search function but not found anything..... Whilst out walking the dog around my permissions last night I noticed a flock of pigeons feeding on the same patch of spring drillings as the day before. The only problem is this part is only about 30 feet away from the hedge that runs beside the road, I know you cannot discharge a firearm within 50 feet of the centre of the highway but how can I set up a hide because it's got roads on 3 sides of the field many thanks in advance matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 set up in middle of field, done it plenty of times, birds still come in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) Need to pick your brains again!! Iv also used the search function but not found anything..... Whilst out walking the dog around my permissions last night I noticed a flock of pigeons feeding on the same patch of spring drillings as the day before. The only problem is this part is only about 30 feet away from the hedge that runs beside the road, I know you cannot discharge a firearm within 50 feet of the centre of the highway but how can I set up a hide because it's got roads on 3 sides of the field many thanks in advance matt The law states "it is an offence to shoot without lawful authority or reasonable excuse within 50 feet of the centre of the highway if in consequence someone on the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered" So providing you take the correct care and precautions you can shoot from the edge of a highway. "Tin hat now firmly in place" Edited April 3, 2012 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 "Tin hat now firmly in place" your correct terry, Ive shot from the field edge, into the field, with a road (no footpath) directly behind me, I did'nt suggest that, as I don't have a tin hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Marty Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 If your hides good enough I would go to the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 your correct terry, Ive shot from the field edge, into the field, with a road (no footpath) directly behind me, I did'nt suggest that, as I don't have a tin hat I'm sure this has been flogged to death, but the trouble with the 50 ft rule is that it only takes someone to claim they have been inconvenienced, alarmed or endangered for a section 1 offence to have been committed. You can be sunk by an unprovable accusation, so don't risk it, especially with the number of malicious antis around nowadays.One off shots when you're satisfied no one is around is fine but getting carried away blatting pigeons is pushing your luck. I'd set up in the field if it was me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm sure this has been flogged to death, but the trouble with the 50 ft rule is that it only takes someone to claim they have been inconvenienced, alarmed or endangered for a section 1 offence to have been committed. You can be sunk by an unprovable accusation, so don't risk it, especially with the number of malicious antis around nowadays.One off shots when you're satisfied no one is around is fine but getting carried away blatting pigeons is pushing your luck. I'd set up in the field if it was me. If the patch the birds are feeding on is 30 foot from the road, where or how far away will the hide have to be placed to ensure he is not shooting towards the Road (300 yard drop zone for shot)? With questions like the one posed by sharpshooter.123 we really need a little more information. As with all hide positions safety has to be the first and main criteria. Tin Hat still firmly in place, by strapped under the chin now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 i wouldn,t think twice about setting up in the middle of a field , but on drillings your hide will stand out like a wart on yer nose tin hat for me now someone will correct me look for any kind of cover like a patch of tall grass, a ditch a small bush anything away from the road and shooting away from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 set up in middle of field, done it plenty of times, birds still come in Put it here............. http://s856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/TheEssexHunter/Essex%20Foxes/?action=view¤t=STA60279.jpg He who dares Rodders http://s856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/TheEssexHunter/Essex%20Foxes/?action=view¤t=STA60280.jpg TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I also have to set up in the middle of fields and it can be quite successful, but use a few extra layers of camo to avoid being silhouetted. Having fields that are "unshootable", due to roads, footpaths, dwellings, schools, old peoples homes, etc., is just a fact of life. If its unsafe, likely to cause extreme disturbance and annoyance, or you are just not sure, then leave the field alone. You can even explain your reasons to the farmer and he can put a banger out there if he wishes. Trust me, its not worth the potential aggro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 By any chance could you get under the flight line that patch ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Isn't this where the good old straw bale hides came in? After a few days the birds get used to the sight of them. I've stuck a circle of branches in the ground before, left them there for few days for the birds to get used to and then put a hide inside them or hung a net around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Use a flag or a gas gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu nesling Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 flag it and push them to where they can be shot with less possible problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soother223 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 i agree accusations made by people are a dangerous thing!! i lost a permission last year because the farm hand wanted his mate to have the sole shooting rights on a area of land that i hunted on for 25 years! there was a footpath on the edge of a field so i set up 50 yds down the hedge on a right angle away from the path an also set my deaks so i was shooting away from the path!anyway i noticed someone moving along the path so i stopped shooting for 30mins before checking things were ok.. so the birds started coming in again an i had a few shots after 10 mins i noticed this idiot up by the gateway at the other end of the field 350yds away ( not in the direction i was shooting) i went to see him an he started to have a bit of a rev and asked how long i'd been there? which had been all morning! anyway he walked off back to his car which was parked at the other side of the farm by the side of the footpath which was 1/2 mile away! so safe to say he must have heard me shooting as he was walking from the car! anyway this is the part of the story you need to hear... the farm manager then came to see me to say there was to be no more shooting on the farm! i guessed why but i still asked anyway and he made up a load of nonsense about getting some horses on the land... to cut a long story short i recently found out that the farm hand went an told the manager that i'd shot over his head! well & truly stitched up! safe to say i'm really cautious about shooting anywhere near a highway or footpath!! an his mate still shoots it with a 243,223 & SHOTGUN i know there are a few paths over the land an imho i would shoot it with a shottie but never a rifle!! only thing i can say is lucky he never said the same load of **** to the police! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblin Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 as a newbie i can't help really ..however i've seen hides/butts (not sure what they'd be called) on a boggy field edge on the banking for the main a31 above?? the only direction they could shoot was AWAY from the road and the banking was about 10'/15'high ..any thoughts?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblin Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 as a newbie i can't help really ..however i've seen hides/butts (not sure what they'd be called) on a boggy field edge on the banking for the main a31 above?? the only direction they could shoot was AWAY from the road and the banking was about 10'/15'high ..any thoughts?? p.s clock seems to be 1hr late :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 I also have to set up in the middle of fields and it can be quite successful, but use a few extra layers of camo to avoid being silhouetted. Having fields that are "unshootable", due to roads, footpaths, dwellings, schools, old peoples homes, etc., is just a fact of life. If its unsafe, likely to cause extreme disturbance and annoyance, or you are just not sure, then leave the field alone. You can even explain your reasons to the farmer and he can put a banger out there if he wishes. Trust me, its not worth the potential aggro. :good: Its the right way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaddy525 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 should go to the farm manager an tell him his mate had shot over your head, see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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