chrisjpainter Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 If you need a Range finder to judge distance for an air gun and shoot 30 yards you need to firstly see an Optician and also give up shooting it........... Range finders are to Quickly and accurately aquire the distance to an object outside your abilty to judge and not one thats within spittin distance Agreed! Plus you should be able to do it with your scope if you have the right reticle! If you know your scope is zeroed at say 35yds, it doesn't take much brain power to work out a shot that's further than that distance and thus how much elevation is needed on the scope... 'The picture you see through the scope at say… 6x magnification will always be the same. Something that is 30 yards away that you know the size of ( in this case a bunny) might be 5 Mil dots high. If the bunny is 50 yards away, the bunny at 6x magnification will be 3 Mil Dots high The easy way to practice this is to get an A4 sheet of paper, draw a life size bunny on it and go out and set it up at 30 yards. Set your scope at the magnification you usually use (say 6x) and look at it through your scope and count the Mil Dots and take a mental picture of what it looks like. Walk away another 10 yards, do the same again, etc…. So when you are in the field set your scope to 6x, look at the bunny, judge the range, THEN zoom in or out to make the shot. Not as accurate as a Laser finder but close enough.' there are, of course going to be variables that this won't take into account - slightly small bunny, your elevation in relation to the target (for all those rabbits sitting in trees), but if you know how your scope works you should be able to get within 5yds, which is still going to give you a nice clean kill That was shamelessly stolen from the airgunforum! the salient are here, but if you want the full thing... http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/hunting/112369-easy-range-finding-newbies.html#post446415 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Trouble is rabbits come in all sizes. My AO scope is in focus at my zero of 35 yards so anything more than 5 yards either side of that is out of focus, I do have a rangefinding app that can help to gauge longer ranges but I haven't taken a shot over 40 yards for months and I probably only do it 2 or 3 times a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 my longest kill shot was 46 yards! perfect head shot on a bunny! windless day perfect flat ground from a bipod, and id just been practising at 50 yards on a card to see what mill dots id need to use. wouldnt have done that shot under anything less than perfect conditions!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) Think i said 40. Anyway just decided to comment as i got a new scope today and was playing around, finding holdover points zero'ing and having fun. Anyway, havent been shooting my .177 for a long time, as i havent had a working scope. ( deffinately might have dropped the old one ) Anyway using parallax adjuster..( a new toy for me ) i put some empty shotgun shells that was clearest in focus at 9x zoom on the 50 yard mark on the parralax, im guessing there is maybe +/- 5 yards give? anyway started pinging them around ( nice and quiet as i also have a new moderater ) and i realise at "50 yards" i was still grouping pretty well. pigeon lands about 5 yards behind my targets.. completely oblivious to me. I really couldnt say no. phut! aimed at the head, hit just below in the neck severing all vitals, dead. Exceptional circumstances, and i wouldnt make a shot like that unless i was confidant i could hit it, but i did and it did kill cleanly..just my 2'p's worth. *yeh just seen my other post, was right with 40.. * Edited April 22, 2012 by demonwolf444 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 40 yards is my max distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 40 yards is my max distance. Yep same here,i've set my scope so its just starting to loose sharp focus at 40 yds then range finding isnt quite so much guess work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 its a very good question this really,when hunting i tend myself to be below 25 yards for most of my shots. i just like creeping up on rodger ;)but if from a nice prone with a rest i will push out to 40/45 yards. just in practice i have taken it to beond 80 yards just with the bottom of a tin can mind you. it performed ok i should do some tests to see how bad my grouping gets thats with aa s410f / aa field 452. on a note i don't use a silencer i have an air stripper instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iced Tiger Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 40 yards max for me as well, prefer 30 yards though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I zero my scope at 36 yards. I can hit a 5p sized target at that range time after time, but I rarely shoot quarry at more than 30 yards. I go down to Shrepreth airgun club every couple of months or so as they do extreme HFT there. Cracking days shooting, but the score cards show how many people can actually get a 50 - 60 yard targets kill zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 no air gun over 35 yards is accurate full stop end of story brad 1927 says it all luv it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 i think people can easily type how good they can shoot but actualy doing it is a different matter.. in most cases any way..12ftlb must be 40 yard at maximum for killing that is' but target shooting quite a bit more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 If you do the math(or be lazy and use a ballistics calculator like me ) it's feasible to down a rabbit at 100 yards based on a 8.5 grain pellet doing 777 fs(11.3flb) would still retain 3.4 flb of energy but it would take half a second to get there lol but I don't know if the barrel on sub 12 rifles Turnes the pellet enough to keep it stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 If you do the math(or be lazy and use a ballistics calculator like me ) it's feasible to down a rabbit at 100 yards based on a 8.5 grain pellet doing 777 fs(11.3flb) would still retain 3.4 flb of energy but it would take half a second to get there lol but I don't know if the barrel on sub 12 rifles Turnes the pellet enough to keep it stable. And a gnat guffing nearby would be enough to send way off course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 And a gnat guffing nearby would be enough to send way off course. Ow ye way way off lol just in theory pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 no air gun over 35 yards is accurate full stop end of story I think there's enough people on here stating that they can accurately shoot well beyond that to show that statement to be a complete load of ********! Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean others can't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I think there's enough people on here stating that they can accurately shoot well beyond that to show that statement to be a complete load of ********! Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean others can't! exactly! I'll quite happily shoot up to the 40 mark - i have a .177 and always shoot from a prone position with a bipod and always take plenty of time over the shot. On the odd occasion where I push pas that mark, it'd only be in A1 conditions, but it's totally possible to be confident of a nice clean kill if you know what you're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron airgunner Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 well most of my shooting is on pigeons and squirrels, which have a clean kill zone almost half the size of a rabbit (head shots only that is). considering this, and the fact that i'm usually taking elavated shots where the trajectory is slightyl different, and sometimes even the wind, and am rangefinsing by eye, i would say on most days a maximum of 40 yards. i have killed pigeons cleanly out to 45 yards on completely windless days, but i prefer to just stalk the extra 5 yards as eveyr yard after 40 yards makes a big difference on where the pellet is going to land. all said and done, the further the range, the more things that can go wrong and the higher chance of wounding. 75% of my shots are below 35 yards and i feel much better about shooting a squirrel i have quietly stalked and got within 20 yards of and taken an easy shot than a pigeon i have taken a long range shot on. people who take silly range shots just for the hell of it arent showing respect to the quarry IMO. as i have said, the further the distance the higher the chance of wounding, so why take long shots when you can stalk closer and lessen the risk of wounding? although with modern pcp's and laser rangefinders i admit that the difference in chances of wounding from 35 yards and 45 yards are much less, but better safe than sorry is what i say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 If you need to shoot more than forty yards, you need fac air or rimfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) Okay, I'm no expert airgunner by any stretch; I usually rely on my rimfires and rifles flatter trajectories to take the hard work out of shooting and range finding but since getting my rapid converted over to FAC I admit to having become a bit of an anorak. I recently invested in a rangefinder, mainly becasue the mk1 eyeball whilst adequate for the other rifles is no where near accurate enough when you're talking about the loopy trajectory of a .22 FAC air. Coupled to some chairgun sessions I can comfortably shoot out to 70 yards on non-windy days and reliably hit a 2p sized target at that range. I think the .22lr is going to be up for sale shortly! I created a little diagram for my scope flip-up that maps the distances at varying magnifications using the chairgun data, it works a treat. I'm now going to do the same for my rimfire and centrefire rifles. Zero is 45 yards btw. Edited May 4, 2012 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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