Rich45 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Hi all I'm new to this site and have only been shooting for just over a year and i could do with some help I'm trying to find out the age of my gun it is a winchester model 91 i have tried to find some where i can use the serial number but have had no luck. Also I'm looking at buying a hatsan escort has anyone a view on this gun Thanks Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Hi Rich. Welcome to PW. Enjoy your stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly321 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 welcome bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Hi all I'm new to this site and have only been shooting for just over a year and i could do with some help I'm trying to find out the age of my gun it is a winchester model 91 i have tried to find some where i can use the serial number but have had no luck. Also I'm looking at buying a hatsan escort has anyone a view on this gun Thanks Rich hello rich,i fancied the look of the escort so off to the gunshop i went,guy handed me one an it felt like a piece of scaffold,dead weight an no balance,i thought it was awefull,then handled every thin,winchester,benelli,browning,beretta,for a couple of hundred quid more settled on the beretta a300 outlander,well pleased with it.hope u find the right one for you.handle them all first b4 decidin.regards john. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-oXo- Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) Hello Rich welcome to the forum. Can't find much for your gun but here is a couple extracts of what I did find. ------ The gun was built for Winchester by Laurona in Spain for distribution in Europe during the late 1970's. You should find some spanish proof marks that will give information such as date of manufacture. Most spanish made guns have a one or two digit proof date code stamped on the watertable of o/u's and on the barrel flats of SxS's. http://www.9mmlargo.com/year_codes.htm ------ So if you find the Spanish proof code, you should be able to id the year of manufacture I would guess. Edited June 3, 2012 by -oXo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Hi all I'm new to this site and have only been shooting for just over a year and i could do with some help I'm trying to find out the age of my gun it is a winchester model 91 i have tried to find some where i can use the serial number but have had no luck. Also I'm looking at buying a hatsan escort has anyone a view on this gun Thanks Rich Dont do it...they have a terrible reputation...cheap and nasty.. :yp: :yp: Welcome to PW from Cornwall.. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) Guns are available new at all prices, and many buyers of the lower cost guns find them well suited to there needs, these days there are no bad guns they are all made by CNC machine to incredible accuracy, some guns are more functunal for rough usage like wildfowling others very nice looking for the person who wants to spend more I think you will find the Hatson will split the readers on here 50/50 but at the end of the day it does its job and priced to compete with the lower cost guns Edited June 3, 2012 by ChrisAsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) Guns are available new at all prices, and many buyers of the lower cost guns find them well suited to there needs, these days there are no bad guns they are all made by CNC machine to incredible accuracy, some guns are more functunal for rough usage like wildfowling others very nice looking for the person who wants to spend more I think you will find the Hatson will split the readers on here 50/50 but at the end of the day it does its job and priced to compete with the lower cost guns No it doesnt...Forever un-jamming it and swearing at it...is NOT doing its job....There cheap Rubbish....For the same money (£300/£400)you can pick up a semi decent O/U or a decent second hand beretta A301/302...that will give you years of service...Not years of tears that the escort will give you.. Steer clear of hatstands.There GASH.. :good: Edited June 3, 2012 by smig4373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B.12345 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Welcome to pw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackenspaniel Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Welcome to PW. Im sure you will find lots of info and opinions to help you on your way. As someone who has reurned to shooting after a 20 years break I also went to buy a semi auto for my pigeon shooting. Not wanting to spend a megga amount I was guided in the direction of the Webley & Scott 812. Paid just under £400 new and I have to say its never missed a beat. Put a various load sizes through it and up to press, never jammed. It may be worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 got me a hatsan semi never missed a beat put 24,28 30 and 36 gm through it never once jammed as `your man said theyre maid for a price .look of the draw ive got a good un some do some sound horrendous `youl get people love em and hate them on the same page .try half a dozen second hand baretta,fabarm,winchester mossberg etc first.most dealers will let u try b4 u buy seconhand guns .then u decide what feels right for your shooting style.good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich45 Posted June 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Thanks for all your help my mate has lent me his hatsan for tomorrow so i'll give it a go and see how it gose but i think i mite go for the beretta al 391 i used a 20 bore one of these felt like a well built gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Welcome to the forum and enjoy the banter. :welcomeani: You'd do well to save up a little bit more and go for a more reputable maker such as Browning, Beretta etc. I picked up a second hand Browning Fusion Gold for £400. Never missed a beat. If you can, try before you buy as one which looks a good deal may not fit you well. If your RFD won't let you then go somewhere else. Most RFD's will help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bang 666 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich45 Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Hi Again Like i said i had the use of a hatsan escort yesterday gun worked well but i didn't find it as well balanced as the berrta i used a few weeks back but saying that its got a lot less recoil than my o/u which is good for me my gun just felt so heavy so it looks like it time to buy a semi. And you can see the difference when i stripped to clean it the berrta was a lot better built but for the price of the gun it did the job so I'm going to Avalon guns open day end of the month and I'll try a few down there but I'm swayed to wards the berrta just not sure which one but thanks for all your help. Now all i have to do is hit a few more clays next time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 hello and welcome ,i know folk that shoot hatsans and like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Check the details of the Beretta. I was looking for an o/u and it was a toss up between a Beretta and a Miroku. The clincher was it felt better and it came with a TEN year guarantee. No brainer. Mind you that was new. it was a little more but I think the quality was better as well. Still a personal choice for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_haines666 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 hi and welcome to PW enjoy your stay if the rifle has a serial number type it in on the makers website and it should come up with the statistics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Hello and wlecome from Surrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang 666 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 keep it clean no probs super game cartridge never fails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caisterboy Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Just some house rules guidelines to follow and you'll get a loyal following ; 1. Ask about the virtues of Hatsans (which you have - perfect start) 2. The next question after this should be whether a Browning or Beretta is best 3. Gunfit (self explanatory) 4. And finally, the last question should be what chokes should i use Ask these periodically and it should keep you going for the first 6 months Have a great time on this site as its better than the telly and welcome to the delights of shooting at fresh air. There is lots of great advice on here just ask, everyone of us was new to shooting some time so please dont take my gentle leg pulling too seriously Caisterboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halight Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hello and welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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