Rimfireboy Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Anybody used .22 and .25 calibres at around 30-40 ft lbs? Just wondered how they compare as I'm considering one for squirrels and corvids . I'm not too bothered about long range, maybe 50 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 .22 and stick to 30 ft lbs any more is a waste of air, harder to silence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 I found .25 Career 707 very effective @ 56ft/lb but only really accurate with Dae Sung pellets:that's the problem with .25 IMO,little pellet choice.Its fine if you can find a good rifle/pellet combo and certainly hits hard but .22 gives many more choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark35gun Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 I would disagree with that, .25 at about 40-50 ftlb will make any .22 look silly the knock down power is awesome, they can also be made to be very quiet too. BUT, it depends what type of air rifle you want, there are pros and cons to all calibres I have a .25 fac and regularly take crows out to 70 yards no problem, but you can also do that with any other calibre In fac terms I wouldn't have anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 i'd go for .22, and 30gr eley magnums are a good pellet if you get a barrel that suits them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 My dads got a rws 500 running at 48 ftlb in 22 and it's pheoimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Thanks for the replies. I think 30 ft lbs would be enough for what I need. I can use reduced velocity rimfire ammo if I'm shooting in a situation where I need more range, say 40-50 ft lbs. problem with these is, they carry too much energy to shoot into trees. I'm looking at safely toppling lofty corvids and squirrels but with more authority that a 12 ft lbs air rifle,where a rimfire couldn't be used. I've used a .25 at 12 ft lbs but I thought they might be more useful than a .22 at FAC levels. Just wondered how the two compared at these power levels. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Think about it, a 22 fac pushing a 30grain bullet head as in Eley or Rabbit Magnum will have a very simalar trajectory to a 12ft lb rifle off ticket, yes it will hit harder no arguing with that. But to use FAC air to its advantage your after a good accurate flat as possible trajectory,and you aint gona get that chucking 30grain bullets heads down range at about 870 fps and dropping as much as a sub 12lb air rifle. Not many shots either you will be needing a tank stapped to your back to have a decent nights lamping for the re'fills. Your better off using what the larger % of folk use and for good reason, 22 FAC doing around 30ftlb and use something like AA field 16.25grn. you dont need heavier or your loosing the advantage.And they do the job very well Thats just my opinion of course, Oh! and not from reading up on the www. when i was shooting FAC air computers were the size of houses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 i use the following fac airguns a daystate air ranger at 60fpe with 25 grn range master monster pellets in .22 calibre and a rapid mk-2 .25 caibre buit by B Taylor at 48fpe with H&N Barracuda 31grn pellets, both are accurate and the .25 is devastating to prey, i use these fac guns on shoots where rimfire/centrefires are not allowed because of land layout but in the end its my decision as i have an open fac licence, for general use an fac .22 at 30fpe is briliant as to choice of gun well i would advise one with a buddy bottle air supply so to give a good shot count, so Daystate, theoben, or bsa R10 are all very good fac guns, its what suits you that counts,!!!!! regds brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I shoot 16gr AA field pellets through a BSA S10 at 30 ft lbs and get very authoritative kills and an easy trajectory. My maximum range personally is 60 yards or so but in the right hands the gun could do better.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Thanks for the input. Looks like .22 would probably suit my needs best at around 30 ft lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Thanks for the input. Looks like .22 would probably suit my needs best at around 30 ft lbs. it does mine, after that is rimfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Not tried .25 but .22 is awesome.Got a airranger running at 40lb zeroed at 55y deadly accurate. Went to a new place last evening shot 22 bunnies for 22 shots so that's good enough for me. I use the HMR for longer shot.Used to shoot 12lb but not much now after been shooting the FAC on bunnies. You will not regret buying one i'm sure,as long as you have plenty of use for it. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Terry what pellets are you using (brand, modle and weight) ? Am looking to by a FAC .22 new and suspect bisley magnums or airarms to be the pellet of choice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Terry what pellets are you using (brand, modle and weight) ? Am looking to by a FAC .22 new and suspect bisley magnums or airarms to be the pellet of choice ! Hi mate,Been using Bisley Magnums very good to,but using Air Arms Diabolo Field at the minute 16 Grains. The Ranger is an awesome tool but heavy,only shoot if of the pod or sticks on rabbits. It was a great investment for me as i have unlimited amount of shooting.I know people say a 12lb is good enough but the hitting power of a FAC is something else. Hope this helps anything i can help with is no prob Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I used to shoot .25 at around 47ftlb. JSB Kings 25.4 grain at around 900fps in either a BSA or LW barrel do extremely well, VERY accurate. And yes, you will notice a difference on target compared to .22 Body shot anywhere forward of the mid section was enough to drop a bunny on the spot. Not so with .22. Bit like the difference between being hit with an egg saucepan vs being hit with a frying pan. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Hi mate,Been using Bisley Magnums very good to,but using Air Arms Diabolo Field at the minute 16 Grains. The Ranger is an awesome tool but heavy,only shoot if of the pod or sticks on rabbits. It was a great investment for me as i have unlimited amount of shooting.I know people say a 12lb is good enough but the hitting power of a FAC is something else. Hope this helps anything i can help with is no prob Terry Am just starting shopping now for something and so far am looking at : HW100, BSA R10, daystate huntsman. unless a MFR comes up ! But i dont like the HW`s at all, just personal preference ! Waiting for G Bates of stafford to call me back but ive been waiting an hour now so maybe they dont need my custom ! Sandwell Field sports (tony) is second choice followed by bloxwich sporting supplys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Am just starting shopping now for something and so far am looking at : HW100, BSA R10, daystate huntsman. unless a MFR comes up ! But i dont like the HW`s at all, just personal preference ! Waiting for G Bates of stafford to call me back but ive been waiting an hour now so maybe they dont need my custom ! Sandwell Field sports (tony) is second choice followed by bloxwich sporting supplys. Let me know what you want i can get a good price on most makes new.Got my Ranger £120 cheaper than anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 hw at fac levels are useless.i had two and both guns were that bad they nearly put me off shooting.don't ever touch one.pm me if you need more info glad to help anyone steer away from the same mistakes i made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Eccles - YHPM ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Called in at drapers today and had a look at the daystate mk4 and air ranger. Bit dissappointed with the feel, weight and balance of the ranger. Looks well built and finished but it seemed top heavy to me the mk 4 seemed to be heavier than it looked, again nicely finished. The thumbhole ambidextrous stocks on both of them, just didn't feel right to me. Shame really. I think I'll look at the huntsman but at 30 fpe 27 shots in .22 doesn't seem enough to me. never had a pre-charged before, starting to wonder now if I ever will. My old theoben sirocco HE carbine, by contrast, handles like a dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Have a look at. Theoben Rapid 7 FAC 30 ftlb around 100 shots per fill. BSA Super 10 0r R10 FAC 30 ftlb around 60 shots per fill. Hatsan AT44 FAC 28 ftlb around 30 to 35 shots per fill. Hatsan BT 65 FAC 30ftlb around 35 to 40 shots per fill. Its a new big gun and you can get it in .25 cal. Have a look at Edgar Bro or Hatsans web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Have a look at. Theoben Rapid 7 FAC 30 ftlb around 100 shots per fill. BSA Super 10 0r R10 FAC 30 ftlb around 60 shots per fill. Hatsan AT44 FAC 28 ftlb around 30 to 35 shots per fill. Hatsan BT 65 FAC 30ftlb around 35 to 40 shots per fill. Its a new big gun and you can get it in .25 cal. Have a look at Edgar Bro or Hatsans web site. Thanks for that night searcher. I'll have a look at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Thanks for that night searcher. I'll have a look at them get a SH rapid 7. a clean one (and a mean nice) should cost no more than £3-£400. BTW i dont get 100 shots out of mine at 30 ft lb but about 50 which is plenty. It needs 220 bar fill with a 400 cc bottle, though it has a shorter barrel and is unregulated. FAC air loose a ton of money new to SH and there are more used ones about than buyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 get a SH rapid 7. a clean one (and a mean nice) should cost no more than £3-£400. BTW i dont get 100 shots out of mine at 30 ft lb but about 50 which is plenty. It needs 220 bar fill with a 400 cc bottle, though it has a shorter barrel and is unregulated. FAC air loose a ton of money new to SH and there are more used ones about than buyers Thanks for the tip. I can imagine they take a bit of shifting as theyre not the most popular choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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