aga man Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) hello guys, have the chance of a tidy little shotgun, but it is fixed choke at skeet/skeet. would this gun be any good in a pigeon hide and if so what shells are likely to pattern best in it. thanks aga man. it is 12bore btw. Edited July 5, 2012 by aga man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 People underestimate skeet someone on our shoot last year folded a pheasant at 45 yards with skeet good for decoying to about 35 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL S Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 great in hide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Nothing wrong with skeet/skeet for a hide.Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 i shot for a couple of seasons with an old winchester 120 pump which was multi choke and the only choke i had was full so i took it out and used it with no choke, i loved that gun. i just kept things a bit closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Just have a quick check on the actual length of the barrels. If they are '26 inches or shorter they may have been shortened cutting out all the original choke. They may handle well in a hide, but a shortened gun is going to be very hard to resell if you needed to. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 open chokes absolutely fine for decoying,in fact probably the least important part in gun decision...unless you envisage trap at some point..presume it is a skeet gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 thank for the useful reply's chaps. the situation is the gun has no stamps on the barrels anywhere. the previous owner complains a pricked birds more often than not. we pattern tested the gun on a large wooden board and at 30 yds with 32gm no6 the pattern was huge with gaps in it. a gunsmith has measured the chokes with a gauge ans said they are less than 1/4 and are both same size. so most definatley skeet. not measured the barrels but they look pretty short come to think of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 just checked. the barrels are 27" also confirmed by the gunsmith. the gun is made by hilton gun company. and looks like this. ps bicykillgaz hope you don't mind used your photo as gun is th same. cheers aga man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Hi Aga Man My father in law uses skeet/skeet barrels/chokes on his berreta for everything and he's cracking shot. Think it a good setup myself. Hedd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve72 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) Hi I have the same gun barrels 28 , 1/2 and 1/4 how much have you been offered it for incidently? I'm really happy with it.Only issue I had is it sometimes wouldn't eject Winchester carts from the top barrel. Never happened with any others. Edited July 5, 2012 by Steve72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Hi I have the same gun barrels 28 , 1/2 and 1/4 how much have you been offered it for incidently? I'm really happy with it. the gun is at £240 ono on private sale.the guy is sick of wounding birds with it. he is a good shot aswell normally. it is in very good nick and tight etc. just can't help thinking there's something amiss with the pattern. cheers for the input hedd. does your father in law generally stick to one brand/type of shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian28 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 thank for the useful reply's chaps. the situation is the gun has no stamps on the barrels anywhere. the previous owner complains a pricked birds more often than not. we pattern tested the gun on a large wooden board and at 30 yds with 32gm no6 the pattern was huge with gaps in it. a gunsmith has measured the chokes with a gauge ans said they are less than 1/4 and are both same size. so most definatley skeet. not measured the barrels but they look pretty short come to think of it. at 30 yds with 32gm no6 the pattern was huge with gaps in it So the previous owner complains a pricked birds more often than not You answered your own question useless even as close as 30 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 at 30 yds with 32gm no6 the pattern was huge with gaps in it So the previous owner complains a pricked birds more often than not You answered your own question useless even as close as 30 yards well yes. thats my feeling also,but interested in others opinion and experiences and trying to figure out why and wether it can be made to pattern better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve72 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 the gun is at £240 ono on private sale.the guy is sick of wounding birds with it. he is a good shot aswell normally. it is in very good nick and tight etc. just can't help thinking there's something amiss with the pattern. cheers for the input hedd. does your father in law generally stick to one brand/type of shell. DI gave £180 for mine at John forseys in Kent last year. I have seen them on net for sale for around £300. I told the dealer what I had found out about Hilton when I picked it up , as he new nothing of the maker and he complained to another customer looking for a cheap gun he'd let me have it to cheap. ( but he is a salesman). Well worth £200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 D I gave £180 for mine at John forseys in Kent last year. I have seen them on net for sale for around £300. I told the dealer what I had found out about Hilton when I picked it up , as he new nothing of the maker and he complained to another customer looking for a cheap gun he'd let me have it to cheap. ( but he is a salesman). Well worth £200 yeah, have to agree, seems a lovely well made gun and fits very well. wouldn't say its a cheap gun by any means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 I use an old skeet gun and have done for years, I love it. However, mine throws good even patterns, as it should. If that one throws a patern with large gaps, there is something wrong with and I would give it a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Try it with a quality cartridge before you dismiss it. Despite what some people will tell you, all cartridges are not equal. I have found Supreme Game to work well in several guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 If it is a skeet gun I would try it with a cartridge it was meant to shoot pattern it with a good 9 in 28g and a plastic wad if it still patterns badly id leave well alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 I think Catweazle has some sage advice there, some shells pattern much better than others and I would try some higher quality shells before dismissing it. Another option if you are buying it "right" would be to have it threaded for screwin tubes and you would have an extremely versatile gun with 27" tubes and an endless variety of chokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 I think Catweazle has some sage advice there, some shells pattern much better than others and I would try some higher quality shells before dismissing it. Another option if you are buying it "right" would be to have it threaded for screwin tubes and you would have an extremely versatile gun with 27" tubes and an endless variety of chokes. thanks guys, these are the type of posts i have been wanting. i didn,t know such things as getting the barrels threaded could be done. and the post about no8 skeet type shells was helpful i was thinking along these lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Skeet chokes are designed to be used between 2 and 25 yards. After that the pattern will get patchy. Ok if you stick to su 30 yards but no fun in that. Of course they can kill further off, but not consistently. Taking longer shots will only end in too many pricked birds. Fine over decoys so long as you are selective about what you shoot at and don't mind letting the long stuff fly on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 i agree with coyotemaster, try different shells. i havnt done a lot of pattern testing but i do remember trying lead BBs through my sx3 field with half choke at 50 yards and the pattern was terrible but through my friends sx3 composite with half choke and the same shells the patterns were great, and that was done with 5 shots through each gun, not just a one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) I wouldn't buy it, if you really want to, use no 7 or 7.5 shot as this will fill the pattern. From what I've been told even 7.5 shot is effective on pigeons at 30 yards, but thats a whole different story that has been covered countless times, lets not start it again. Edited July 6, 2012 by Spara Dritto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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