beeredup Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 what fibre wad cartridges does everyone use i have been using plas wad olympics where allowed and eley first fibre where plastic wads are not allowed now i am fed of up havin to keep a stock of both so i wondering whats a decent fibre wad to use for clays some thing thats going to be consistant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) was thinking either white gold XLR or just blowing the wad (pun intended) and just buying some black gold and having done with it! as my fathers neighbour told me to a while as thats what he used to shoot DTL with for those tartan chaps north of the border Edited July 15, 2012 by beeredup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Started using gamebore blue diamond recently and find them really good cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 cool i might grab a slab of them to try thanks i was thinking i might buy a selection of slabs an try them out and see what i prefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 cool i might grab a slab of them to try thanks i was thinking i might buy a selection of slabs an try them out and see what i prefer I find with them even the 28g are fairly good on recoil, compared to first and fiocchi's ive used previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I shot with my first batch of cheddites yesterday lovely cartridge and well priced. Comes in fiber and plaswad flavour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 another slab to the shopping list for when i get back home after now soon to start 2 weeks in rehab/offshore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I shot with my first batch of cheddites yesterday lovely cartridge and well priced. Comes in fiber and plaswad flavour. Glad to hear that you liked them Huffy Next pallet is due in mid August, so pm me your requests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Lyalvale 'Englsh Sporter' Fibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbank Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 As you are happy with the plaswad Eley Olympics I think you may like the fibre Eley Blues. I have just used 250 on a 'fibre wad only' excursion, they closely matched the Eley Superbs I am more familiar with. However there is a bit a cost penalty compared with your existing combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Gamebore Kent Velocity for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 If your auto will handle them Hull Comp-X, very nice cartridge, soft recoil. good patterning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud dog Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I am in the same place. Shot some cheddites myself the other week, seamed to do well. Still from what I pick up, whatever you are happy with. Pointing gunin right direction the main thing. That's the bit I struggle with. I am going to try some fiocchi Top 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Cheapest ones you can get! All do the same job :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakoQuad Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hull Superfast 27grm fibre at around a max of £165 per 1000. Cracking cartridge - best in the price range IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 At my club only fibre allowed.Have over the years tried most,think the best are Gamebore white gold(not xlr)/Hull Sovereign/and extended range and Just cartridges own brand(which are effectively gamebore).Of the 'budget' shells Kent velocity are popular/the grounds own shells which are fine,although I think are slightly inferior to above.I never buy plastic cup anymore so shoot fibre wherever I go shoot.The best shots in high end competition seem to only shoot plastic,so I guess there is a slight pattern advantage with plastic but for average clays modern fibre does the job. It would be interesting to hear what the 'pros' on this site chose to shoot, Ed Solomon/Beretta/Dennis etc and which fibre they would chose if had to shoot fibre.For 50/60 yarders such as at RBSS classic handicap tower Digweed was smoking clays whereas I would get half breaks(if/when I hit!....he was using White Gold plastic cup and has full/full..on basis he could of course chose fibre of same shell it is interesting he selects the plastic cup version.Chris Childerhouse(another brilliant young shot)says he can tell difference and prefers plas wad,for idiots like me and other mere mortals Fibre is plenty good enough for most clay presentations..I shoot about 1500 shells a year at clays and now just use Just cartridges 7.5/8s last batch cost @ £160/'000 from memory.I would be interested to see a scientific test with top shots shooting a round with their usual then a premium fibre....personally I doubt there would be much difference in the scores........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 There are now bio degradable plaswad options but the clubs still are not keen due to the time it takes for them to degrade. The theory of plaswad cup is the pressure throws the cup clear and the cup holds the shot in a tight pattern before falling away! The fibre wad not only disintigrates but allows a bit of pressure past allowing the pressure to disrupt the pattern once it clears the choke? Not sure how true it is but it made sense to me when the chap explained it. I prefer Fibre when out game shooting but the cost issue is a head scratcher? Less for man made plastic wad More for a natural wad? Plus I like the smell of the fibre wads too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Cheddites worked well on the pigeons 28g 7.5's fibre, could well do both jobs for me, and being a pensioner the price was good as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Fibre wads generally shoot more open. Its not the plaswad holding the pattern together but the fact that the leaves on the wad protect the shot from being scrubbed down the barrel. When this happens 9as with fibre wads) the pellets get flattened on one side, which causes them to open out quickly due to air resistance. These pellets are useless at any range as they will not go where your pointing and wont have much oomph anyhow. Fibres are also a bit more punchy. I dont ever shoot them through my gun as it is massively over bored and the fibre wads hate it. Plaswad are cheaper, softer and pattern tighter/more even so you can reach out a long way. If I was to shoot them I would just shoot the cheapest ones, as despite what people tell you it will not make any difference to your score. Technically the "best" ones would have the hardest shot but in reality you wont be able to tell. It does make me laugh a bit when you see people spending £220/thou on shells thinking it will do them some good; you are better off getting the cheapest shell you can and spend the difference on clays/lessons or both. You need to get a long long way before needing to worry about how good your shell is. As a bit of an example Hull Pro Ones that I shoot were able to consistently break a clay at 115 yards (measured) before the need to go to something bigger. A lot of people convince themselves that a shell with big brass and a high price tag will break clays for them, or if one goes fater, or has harder shot etc etc. If people had guns fixed half and half for a year and focussed on technique it would gain them more than any new shell! Back to fibre though... through a normal gun upto 40 odd yards witha bit of choke they will be fine; kills might noty be as heavy but wont cost you anything bar a few £/1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Fibre wads generally shoot more open. Its not the plaswad holding the pattern together but the fact that the leaves on the wad protect the shot from being scrubbed down the barrel. When this happens 9as with fibre wads) the pellets get flattened on one side, which causes them to open out quickly due to air resistance. These pellets are useless at any range as they will not go where your pointing and wont have much oomph anyhow. Fibres are also a bit more punchy. I dont ever shoot them through my gun as it is massively over bored and the fibre wads hate it. Plaswad are cheaper, softer and pattern tighter/more even so you can reach out a long way. If I was to shoot them I would just shoot the cheapest ones, as despite what people tell you it will not make any difference to your score. Technically the "best" ones would have the hardest shot but in reality you wont be able to tell. It does make me laugh a bit when you see people spending £220/thou on shells thinking it will do them some good; you are better off getting the cheapest shell you can and spend the difference on clays/lessons or both. You need to get a long long way before needing to worry about how good your shell is. As a bit of an example Hull Pro Ones that I shoot were able to consistently break a clay at 115 yards (measured) before the need to go to something bigger. A lot of people convince themselves that a shell with big brass and a high price tag will break clays for them, or if one goes fater, or has harder shot etc etc. If people had guns fixed half and half for a year and focussed on technique it would gain them more than any new shell! Back to fibre though... through a normal gun upto 40 odd yards witha bit of choke they will be fine; kills might noty be as heavy but wont cost you anything bar a few £/1000. Agree 100% Ed but haven't you missed out that according to some on here that where cartridges are concerned Cheddite appears to have re-written the rule book. 115 yards virtually skeet, with a Cheddite you'll double that distance. Pigeon shooting and a rogue elephant appears, no panic a Cheddite will drop it. Just be careful near airports we don't want Easyjets tumbling from the sky. The worst cartridge will out perform the best shooter BUT you've got to believe that the shells you drop into your chambers will do the job, if you think that those few extra £s or that extra 5mm of brass will be better than your beaten before you start. I'm very occasionally guilty of it but the phrase that you should never say more than once or twice in your shooting life is "bought a slab of x, just to try them" Find a shell that a] doesn't thump you and b] you can afford and stick with them, learn to accept that if the clay doesn't break there may be a number of reasons but choice of cartridges will not be one of them. Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 "The worst cartridge will out perform the best shooter BUT you've got to believe that the shells you drop into your chambers will do the job, if you think that those few extra £s or that extra 5mm of brass will be better than your beaten before you start. I'm very occasionally guilty of it but the phrase that you should never say more than once or twice in your shooting life is "bought a slab of x, just to try them" Find a shell that a] doesn't thump you and b] you can afford and stick with them, learn to accept that if the clay doesn't break there may be a number of reasons but choice of cartridges will not be one of them." With you 100% on that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) i paid £108 today for clear pigeon 6,30gr for 500 Edited July 19, 2012 by bignoel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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