Hornet 6 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Nice find on the lathe, and as for stealing the mill, excellent result Not easy to move are they, and I'm surprised the mill made it without tipping over, usually you would drop the knee as far as possible, and on a Bridgeport swivel the head over as far as possible to lower the C of G. I have really enjoyed the punt build, and it is the only thread I have ever followed on this forum, but now you really have my interest as engineering is my thing. Good luck with your endeavours as this unfolds. It is many years since I have heard the echo of punt gun reverberating across the marsh, a sound I will never forget. Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) Yes!!! They were keen to get it in the truck and go home! Once it was loaded I dropped the knee and put the bed and head as far back as possible! It's no where near as heavy as the lathe though so pretty easy to shift. Glad you like the thread anyway... Hopefully the gun will go smoothly! I need to finish of the drawings for it all now! Edited to say: both the lathe and mill had 6 ratchet straps holding them down, each capable of holding 4 tone! the only way either if them were going anywhere was if it took the back of the truck with it! Edited February 24, 2013 by Wildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Just put a sofa-bed in that hut and I'd understand why you'd never leave! This is awesome, keep on updating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Just put a sofa-bed in that hut and I'd understand why you'd never leave! This is awesome, keep on updating! Haha, I plan to get a log burner or something in there for next winter so I can heat it for free! And by then the punt will be out so a sofa bed might not be totally out of the question! I'm sure the mrs would be happy if if did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Haha, I plan to get a log burner or something in there for next winter so I can heat it for free! And by then the punt will be out so a sofa bed might not be totally out of the question! I'm sure the mrs would be happy if if did! Just cut a flap in the wall so she can push your supper through, sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Nice result on the bridgeport i grew up on them during my toolmaking apprenticeship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northamptonclay Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Nice result on the bridgeport i grew up on them during my toolmaking apprenticeship Same here :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Same here :-) So did I! :-) The classic apprentice mill but really versatile and easy to get spares for so ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 So did I! :-) The classic apprentice mill but really versatile and easy to get spares for so ideal Yep as they say ' Often imitated, never duplicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I spent a few hours this week and this morning revising the plans for the gun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shaun4860 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Will you have to take the gun to be proofed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Will you have to take the gun to be proofed? I will have it proofed but legaly i only need to if I want to sell it... I'm still seriously thinking about making 2, proofing the pair together and then selling one of them...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Thoroughly enjoying your adventures WF, can't wait to see it all come together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Are you committed to the use of trunnions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 you would recoup quite a bit of cash if you built 2 at the same time Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Are you committed to the use of trunnions? nope, i'm guessing your going to suggest the use of a sprung loaded recoil absorber? you would recoup quite a bit of cash if you built 2 at the same time Deershooter That's the plan, but only if i'm able to sell the second gun... and to be honest i don't know what someone would be willing to pay for it?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Found this that you may want to buy Sale: John Woodham Higgins Armory Collection Auction House: Thomas Del Mar Ltd Date: Wednesday 20 March 2013 **A MASSIVE PERCUSSION PUNT GUN, MID-19TH CENTURY with tapering multi-stage barrel retained by robust brass bands and formed with chiselled mouldings, octagonal breech formed with a moulding ahead of the percussion bolster, back-action lock, figured hardwood three-quarter stock with carved butt, and brass fore-end cap 322.5 cm; 127 in barrel 4.5 cm; 1 3/4 in bore Provenance Max Williams, New York, sold Anderson Galleries, New York, 7th March 1928 JWHA Inv. No. 499 Estimate: £1,000.00 - £1,400.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I spent ages looking for one to come up for sale, and all of the ones that did were fortunes or really rough! That looks like a nice gun though! Shame it's a muzzle loader! I've got the lathe and mill now so don't suppose the mrs would see the funny side of me spending another fifteen hundred quid!!! :( It will be interesting to see what it goes for though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 No mate, I was going to ask if you`ve considered using an under barrel loop in place of trunnions. A quick history lesson. Many punt guns built before about 1880 used the under barrel loop. The writings of Payne Galwey post 1880ish popularised trunnions which is why many more recent guns have them. Trouble is they come with a number of issues. The gun is "hard" breached and all the recoil is transmitted to the punt, and to the breeching rope which often causes the gun to run forward with as much force as it first recoiled backwards. To partially overcome this one often has to use a rope which is significantly thicker than is actually required to safely contain the recoil. Trunnions, partly for the reason mentioned above, often cause the gun muzzle to jump and are not conducive to accurate shooting. An under barrel loop has none of these problems. The rope need only be thick enough to contain the recoil since the gun is "soft" breeched. The rope will slip a fraction at the moment of firing which eliminates muzzle flip, enhances accuracy and transmits less strees to the punt, most of the energy being lost in the rope. Out of interest, where will the gun crutch be in relation to the breech of your,very pretty looking, gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 What 3d moddeling program ru using looks like solidworks or am I wrong ? Nice animation. Tasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancsGunsmith Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I would change you sear design slightly, also have a second (safety) bent incase you don't fully cock it to prevent a misfire. Will not be long before you melting wax on the cooker stinking the house out and sealing your wads in. What did you do the action of the mech on SolidWorks? An nice punt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Yes, i use solidworks for all the 3D stuff and autoCAD mechanical for the 2D work. It's been a long time since I used either professionally but once you get back into it, it all comes back! LancsGunsmith, what or how would you change it? Any advice welcomed! There are plenty of designs and pictures about for the mechanism in sidelocks etc but not too many of punt gun actions so most of it is a best guess and what I can actually produce on the machines I have... I do have access to a laser cutter though so intricate parts out of plate aren't too much of an issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Mudpatten, Any pics of the under barrel loop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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