ziplex Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Just a quick question gents............ Seems there are some, general chat/in magazines who suggest the use of a semi at clay grounds are frowned upon a little. I've only shot at grounds a few times and have used their guns which are always O/U's and whilst there I haven't seen anyone using a semi. As my first gun could possibly be a semi, still trawling through tests/visiting shops etc, am I to assume I may have the odd raised eyebrow cast in my direction?! Any thoughts........? Scrap that......................just realised answers lie elsewhere within! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Yeah but just ignore em, miserable **** I use a pump action for clays sometimes, they really love that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I bet they do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 yes they get funny over it, but all ways show the gun is empty and take no notice of them.just enjoy your self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 It's if you fire more than 2 on the trot - that normally gets them over. Most have a rule no more than 2 incase of numpties that can't count upto 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 It's if you fire more than 2 on the trot - that normally gets them over. Most have a rule no more than 2 incase of numpties that can't count upto 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 As long as you point yours in the right direction at all times and put a flag in it then carry on as normal and ignore the stares mate. They really frown when you turn up with a pump that takes 4 LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I find hammerguns more scary at Clay Grounds than semi autos. At some places if they call a "no bird" you have to break your gun. Most hammerguns will not open once they are cocked, so the shooter has to ease the hammers off, to open the gun. On really cold mornings this makes me wince. I had the hammer of an old .410 slip off my frozen thumb, when I was shooting rats as a 15 year old. Made a small hole in the ground and luckily I was on my own. Something I will never forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM'S DAD Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 It's if you fire more than 2 on the trot - that normally gets them over. Most have a rule no more than 2 incase of numpties that can't count upto 3. Never a truer word said in jest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Buy yourself a Napier Auto safe flag that fit's in the breech, then when carrying it either put it in a slip or put the butt in the pocket of your skeet vest and point the gun upwards. Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicW Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Ziplex, I used a semi-auto for clay shooting for many years and never experienced hassle from fellow shooters at clay grounds.Like Martin said carry it safely and breech open.They are sometimes frowned on by a few trap shooters because the ejected cartridge case spoils their concentration.I reckon if that's the case they ain't concentrating hard enough! Good shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 I see a pattern forming here, ................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 i used to shoot dtl but they frown upon autos i now shoot skeet and sporting with my x2 auto and nobody minds.shoot what feels good ignore the frowns just be safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenlander Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 I shoot my auto down the clay ground and never get any hassle,in fact the ground keeps an auto to teach newcomers to the sport with,as the low recoil is a lot more friendly to ladys and youngsters. When going around the sporting stands I carry it in the slip,only taking it out when in the cage ,and I put it back in when finished shooting,and before leaving the cage,same as I do with my o/u. If you want to shoot clays with an auto there is no good reason why you should'nt! and if a clay ground do's frown at you for using one ,just take your money to a good one!!! All the best Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 and if a clay ground do's frown at you for using one ,just take your money to a good one!!! Spot on! Its this snootty golf club attitude, autosafe flag and or slip between stands and pick the shells up, can't see any reason why not. Most folk with o/u s/s ejectors at commercial grounds don't put shells in the bin anyway. Anyone who snoots on trap/dtl is just looking for an excuse for a miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Quite correct, Fister, I shoot an O/U and never let the cases fly out, I always stop them with my hand and put them straight in the bin. The only exception to this is if I am shooting a flurry and then I pick up afterwards. I stood waiting to shoot a flush at a local game fair recently and the guy who was shooting had shot about 60 rounds and ejected the cases over his shoulder. When he had finished he put his gun in the slip and walked away. I was shocked that nothing was said. Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Martin, I think it is because nothing was said that these people just carry on doing it, I can't expalin why but just dumping spent cartridges has really started to get on my nerves recently. We now have a realy good 100 bird shoot right on my doorstep every 2 weeks, someone has gone to a lot of effort to turn the shoot arround to make it what it is now, and they provide the biggest bins there are for cartridges, and still people just spit them out all over the place - do they think the 'cartridge fairy' will come round to pick them up afterwards or what? - *****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Amen to that Stuart, It's about clay guns were made non ejector. I have never been to a clay where some sort of bin hasn't been provided. Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicW Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 A lot of shooters in the USA disable the ejectors but they do home load a lot more than we do.I believe at many US grounds if the spent cartridge hits the ground it belongs to the ground owner and they sell them for reloading. I always picked my cartridge cases up when I used semi-autos but as you get older you find the floor gets further away so I changed to an o/u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted September 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 A lot of shooters in the USA disable the ejectors but they do home load a lot more than we do.I believe at many US grounds if the spent cartridge hits the ground it belongs to the ground owner and they sell them for reloading.I always picked my cartridge cases up when I used semi-autos but as you get older you find the floor gets further away so I changed to an o/u. Know what you mean Vic.....my backs not in the best of shape and sure enough, i've started to notice it seems further away too!, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 couple of good points there on empty shells, as has been said a lot of Americans reload, where the hull hits the ground it belongs to the club they sell back to the shooters for reloading. a lot of the shoots i frequent have trap personel who clean up after the shoot, thats what they're paid for, it stops congestion on stations, unfourtunatly it does promote tardy attitudes from some shooters , at times myself included, where we go from stand to stand not picking up, there are of cource those who maintain its not there job having paid top dollar to shoot. i see many shoots with butts for mt's and many without, semis are a different game the shells disperce a little more irraticaly and clean up is required. as a lefty i find it hard to cross over and throw to the oposite side when im concentrating on shooting, sometimes i position the butt behind and eject over the shoulder and in,any missed i can clean up after, again this is if possible, having another squad behind you does tend to restrict time spent cleaning up. maybe its up to the club to enforce any rule nessasary in clean up, maybe its up to the shooters, im not sure who to hold responcible. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennywise Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 imagane some peoples faces when you turn upto a clay shoot with a pump action! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Martin, I think it is because nothing was said that these people just carry on doing it, I can't expalin why but just dumping spent cartridges has really started to get on my nerves recently. I'm glad i'm not the only one that this pi$$es off. When i go to the clay ground near me on Saturday there is an entire family that just pop cartridges out all over the place and merrily continue on their way on the skeet I could half understand it if it was an old fella with a semi and he forgot to/couldn't pick them up but when its a mix of men and women from 60 to 16 it REALLY does my head in!! Rant ends Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 - do they think the 'cartridge fairy' will come round to pick them up afterwards or what? - *****! swear words from a mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubby_uk Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I have been known to turn up with a semi in realtree camo. Gets a few looks and the odd shake of the head. Ignore them. Use a safety flag in the breach and just enjoy it. I only shoot for my own pleasure, (or total displeasure some days ) so I don't worry what the purists say. As long as you shoot what you enjoy, and do it safely, then where's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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