spanj Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 It's adequate compensation. Wouldn't say it was good, should of pushed for more in hindsight. He was also prosecuted for dangerous driving, and with luck had to pay for the air ambulance as well. His biggest mistake was unknowingly having an off duty copper in the car behind him !! Still, I'm sure his insurance premiums now act as a good reminder. There are ********* in all walks of life. Some of them also unfortunately drive and/or cycle as well. Clearly......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Running a red light when its safe. surely its safe when its green? i.e dont run red lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku_Dave Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Im so pleased that PW has such responsible drivers, not a crash, red light run, speeding fine amongst them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 And Im not glad it has cyclists who flout the laws of the road. ho hum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku_Dave Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 And Im not glad it has cyclists who flout the laws of the road. ho hum Digger at what point in this whole thread has a cyclist said that they flout the law?This thread is getting boring now, yes there are bad cyclists, believe it or not there are bad drivers, there are even bad pedestrians!Get a bike mate you might like it! It's adequate compensation. Wouldn't say it was good, should of pushed for more in hindsight. He was also prosecuted for dangerous driving, and with luck had to pay for the air ambulance as well. His biggest mistake was unknowingly having an off duty copper in the car behind him !! Still, I'm sure his insurance premiums now act as a good reminder. There are ********* in all walks of life. Some of them also unfortunately drive and/or cycle as well. I cant believe this bloke is getting grief for being knocked off his bike by a bell end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I have run the odd red light as posted by a cyclist above? A bike? Jesus I live in Croydon even if I chained it to my gun cabinet it would get stolen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku_Dave Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I have run the odd red light as posted by a cyclist above? A bike? Jesus I live in Croydon even if I chained it to my gun cabinet it would get stolen! Seen, my apologies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I dont know about everyone else but have always thought the hard core cyclists were just a little odd, no let me re fraise that, complete plonkers. Miroku just goes to prove a point. peace and love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku_Dave Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I dont know about everyone else but have always thought the hard core cyclists were just a little odd, no let me re fraise that, complete plonkers. Miroku just goes to prove a point. peace and love Im just a commuter, i dont even shave my legs! (Yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 There is a guy who works with me and has all the gear, carries his bike in as its to expensive to leave outside, arrives in acres of lycra and changes etc, he is quite proud that he shaves his legs.... Maybe Lance Armstrong did have a point. if you are going to ride a bike you may need to be on drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku_Dave Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Right this is my last point (hopefully as im starting to bore myself now!) Imagine as a shooter how you would feel if i said this: "I saw a bloke carry his loaded shotgun over a fence, therefore all shooters are unsafe, inconsiderate ******* who should pass a test every couple of years, be insured, pay extra tax to be allowed on the land and wear an ID tag so we can pin down who they are!" "Ive also seen people load 20g carts in to 12g guns, people accidently shooting their mates, taking low birds, not picking up their spent carts etc etc therefore all shooters are the same!" That my friends is what you are saying about cyclists. Yes some are inconsiderate, some break the law and some cause accidents and damage but not all of them. I for example am perfect! Here endeth my rant, I will endeavour to be a more considerate cyclist in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikaveli Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Maybe Lance Armstrong did have a point. if you are going to ride a bike you may need to be on drugs. Maybe it's the 'roids making these men go all feminine? You know the type, squeaky voice, shrunken 'kit' - guess with all the extra estrogen the body generates to combat the testosterone, shaving your legs and wearing lycra feels natural... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 And Im not glad it has cyclists who flout the laws of the road. ho hum And I'm sure you've never gone about 70mph in a national speed limit zone? Bumped someone's car while parking and just thought "Whoops, never mind"? Never worked for cash in hand and not told the tax man? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 david_r, on 18 October 2012 - 09:25 PM, said: It's adequate compensation. Wouldn't say it was good, should of pushed for more in hindsight. He was also prosecuted for dangerous driving, and with luck had to pay for the air ambulance as well. His biggest mistake was unknowingly having an off duty copper in the car behind him !! Still, I'm sure his insurance premiums now act as a good reminder. There are ********* in all walks of life. Some of them also unfortunately drive and/or cycle as well. Clearly......... So david_r was knocked off his bike, and had to be airlifted to hospital. The driver was clearly at fault - prosecuted for dangerous driving, and convicted by virtue of the fact there was an undercover policeman in a car behind him. And yet, somehow, some people here are blaming the cyclist? Jesus H christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikaveli Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 So david_r was knocked off his bike, and had to be airlifted to hospital. The driver was clearly at fault - prosecuted for dangerous driving, and convicted by virtue of the fact there was an undercover policeman in a car behind him. And yet, somehow, some people here are blaming the cyclist? Jesus H christ. Doesn't sound like his fault in that case, but several cyclists have alluded to being knocked off several times... Any car driver that keeps having accidents that "aren't their fault", is a concern to me. Everyone can be unlucky or the victim of another bad driver etc. at some point, but if I knew someone that kept being involved in crashes, I'd seriously question what was it about their driving that didn't avoid them... I've had cars, motorcyclists, trucks and yes, even cyclists perform crazy unsafe manoeuvres in front of me several times. In each case, I'd used sufficient observation, allowed enough braking distance etc. etc. to calmly and safely avoid their 'shenanigans'. If you're always the victim, then you're someone that doesn't have the appropriate road sense to use the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Right, I tried to get home using the cycle path the other day on my road bike, Yes it’s a light frame with skinny tyres. Several problems: It’s a cycle/footpath so used by loose dogs, children, horses, pedestrians etc. It is right next to the road so covered in grit, rubbish, broken glass and the rest of the **** that makes its way out of inconsiderate driver’s windows. Every 100 metres or so there are 2 curbs to navigate. Trees are not trimmed back therefore causing hazards. The cycle path does not run for the length of the road and roughly every 500m you have to get off and cross a busy road to cycle on the main road until another section of cycle path becomes available. In reality its not a cycle path, its a foot path painted green in order to meet government criteria and secure council funding. It is not safe or fit for cyclists and in some areas is more dangerous than the road. It took me 45 minutes to cycle 5.5 miles rather than the 25 minutes that it usually takes, i didn’t even break a sweat so pretty rubbish exercise really as my heart rate never even raised. The only thing it did do was cover my bike in horse muck and put me in several dangerous situations. So, I’m going to carry on cycling on the road. I’m going to shout wildly at every muppet who pulls up beside me and tells me to get road tax. I’m going to sue the next idiot who knocks me off my bike. I will quite happily get off my bike and confront the next driver who verbally abuses me and then gets stuck at the lights and ask them if they still want to carry out their threats when they see me close up! But, I will carry on wearing a helmet. I will carry on using the appropriate lights. I will carry on wearing my high-vis clothing. I will carry on adhering to the Highway Code. I will carry on cycling in single file, being courteous, pulling off to the side if there is a build up of traffic behind me on a rural road. So, perhaps it isn’t all cyclists who are these "Mad Max" tyrants that you seem to experience on a daily basis. Maybe you lot just need to start exercising a bit of tolerance eh? Me too... story from last week.. Cycling sedately past the local comprehensive school at 8.30 today, with speed humps, misparked imbeciles, pupils and pinch points galore. Exceptionally thick Mum-like person, driving a Zafira decides that she Must Get In Front Of The Bike, and pulls out round me, gives me a nice wide berth then almost crashes into 20-car stationary queue in front of us. She is so far out on the wrong side of the road, and stopped with nowhere to go, that oncoming traffic can't get past either . I happily zip past all of this muddle. If only people would look past the bike & consider the road ahead. Thankfully all this happened at less than 15 mph ! Let's try to be nice to each other ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 So david_r was knocked off his bike, and had to be airlifted to hospital. The driver was clearly at fault - prosecuted for dangerous driving, and convicted by virtue of the fact there was an undercover policeman in a car behind him. And yet, somehow, some people here are blaming the cyclist? Jesus H christ. It was the suggestion that the £7000 of compensation went towards funding his shooting rather than covering actual loss that grinds my gears, if you will excuse the pun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 david_r, on 18 October 2012 - 09:25 PM, said: It's adequate compensation. Wouldn't say it was good, should of pushed for more in hindsight. He was also prosecuted for dangerous driving, and with luck had to pay for the air ambulance as well. His biggest mistake was unknowingly having an off duty copper in the car behind him !! Still, I'm sure his insurance premiums now act as a good reminder. There are ********* in all walks of life. Some of them also unfortunately drive and/or cycle as well. So david_r was knocked off his bike, and had to be airlifted to hospital. The driver was clearly at fault - prosecuted for dangerous driving, and convicted by virtue of the fact there was an undercover policeman in a car behind him. And yet, somehow, some people here are blaming the cyclist? Jesus H christ. If thats aimed at me I was more commenting on the guys attitude to compensation. Which, in my opinion, you shouldnt be entitled to unless, you have lost the use of a limb, organ or the ability to work...... tin hat on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Fair enough, if you weren't all implying it's somehow by default the cyclist's fault if he or she gets hit by a car. Having said that, in this case, if the bloke got compensation for loss of earnings, personal injury, damage to property or whatever, surely it's up to him what he then spends that money on? Anyways, I'll leave this thread alone now. Drive / cycle / walk / shoot safely, one and all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Fair enough, if you weren't all implying it's somehow by default the cyclist's fault if he or she gets hit by a car. Having said that, in this case, if the bloke got compensation for loss of earnings, personal injury, damage to property or whatever, surely it's up to him what he then spends that money on? Agreed, but the suggestion that it was used to fund his shooting reads as though he has claimed it falsely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovril Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) This thread’s been a good read so I’ll add my bit. A couple of weeks ago I was on my hols in Scotland, me and the wife went for a drive on the Bealach na Ba run to Applecross, for those of you who have never been it’s a challenging drive to say the least, single track road with passing places for most of the way. We were on the way down and meeting a bus coming up being held up by a cyclist, I flashed my lights to the bus and pulled in to a passing place expecting the cyclist to pull over too, but he didn’t, just kept on going, I watched in disbelief as the bus driver had to power past this mad man with only an inch or so to spare, I’m sure the cyclist must have made contact with the bus, what a fool. Edited October 22, 2012 by Bovril Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 They (cyclists) should be clothes lined off thier bike's at the first opportunity... I have considered filling a super soaker with urine and driving up and down the local rural road and spraying any cyclist who are too arrogant to move into single file when cars approach... I love the smell of a ***** cyclist in the morning... :yp: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Agreed, but the suggestion that it was used to fund his shooting reads as though he has claimed it falsely. I'm confused as to what else it should be used for. Once a new bike has been purchased money for pain etc can't be used to time travel to prevent the pain happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) They (cyclists) should be clothes lined off thier bike's at the first opportunity... I have considered filling a super soaker with urine and driving up and down the local rural road and spraying any cyclist who are too arrogant to move into single file when cars approach... I love the smell of a ***** cyclist in the morning... :yp: I reckon that could take off as a humane form of control, no one can say any cyclists would be injured and I'd lay money on them thinking twice about doing it again Edited October 23, 2012 by Zapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku_Dave Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I reckon that could take off as a humane form of control, no one can say any cyclists would be injured and I'd lay money on them thinking twice about doing it again Except your all mouth and wouldnt dare! They (cyclists) should be clothes lined off thier bike's at the first opportunity... I have considered filling a super soaker with urine and driving up and down the local rural road and spraying any cyclist who are too arrogant to move into single file when cars approach... I love the smell of a ***** cyclist in the morning... :yp: What a bell end! I would love to meet you when im out on my bike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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