washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 what none toxic shot do you use and why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I use steel on geese and duck, haven't been shooting long but have been toying with the hevi-shot option for my over and under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) please could you vote on a choice so we all can see what the main choice of none toxic being used is .. steel for me with the odd shot of heavy shot when i'm feeling flush ...only at geese tho ... many thanks ,, Edited October 21, 2012 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) I use steel,gambore super steel 70mm 32g 4's.Think on average of 220 shot's in a cartridge. Use them because they pattern well in my gun. And kill duck very well too. Also the emptys are easy to find in the dark,and you can see if the shot has got wet as they are clear. some carts i have cut up below just for info. Gambore super steel 70mm 7 1/2-28gram =428 shots per cart Boraghi steel 70mm 4-36 gram =290 shots per cart Gambore super steel 70mm 4-32 gram =212 shots per cart Boraghi steel 70mm 1-36 gram =162 shots per cart Gamebore mammouth steel 76mm 1-36 gram =134 shots per cart Edited October 21, 2012 by Albert 888 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Steel, because when used properly it performs very well and it's sooo much cheaper than the others! My choice of cartridges... Gamebore Super Steel 32g No.3s Gamebore Mammoth Steel BB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Steel, because when used properly it performs very well and it's sooo much cheaper than the others! My choice of cartridges... Gamebore Super Steel 32g No.3s Gamebore Mammoth Steel BB's If you ever get fed up and have a spare 32g no.3 as above could you count the shot and pm me. Thanks Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I reload steel and a bit of hevi shot does all I need it to...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 If you ever get fed up and have a spare 32g no.3 as above could you count the shot and pm me. Thanks Albert I have done in the past, I think there was about 170 shot in the cartridge if I remember right? I'll count again in the near future and let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I have done in the past, I think there was about 170 shot in the cartridge if I remember right? I'll count again in the near future and let you know Cheers and thanks. Also glad to hear of somone else doing it too. I thought i may have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Steel for me. Price being the main factor and also now i have my head round it i can get just as good kills with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bad lindz Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Steel for the price, cant justify the extra cost for the other types of shot as my birds down ratio is not good enough BBL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordfowler Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Steel - I'd use some thing else (tungsten or heavy shot) - but price is the deciding factor. Have been using steel for a few years now so have now gotten used to it. OXF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Home load steel for me its cheap and seems to work would try something else but the price of steel is the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Steel, it does everything i ask of it. No3 Gamebore mamouth 3" for duck No1 or up in the 3 1/2" for geese. I now find i am picking it up rather than lead 5's for crows, its not better you just get used to it. I spend a fair amount of time patterning and use 1/2 choke for practically anything. 1/4 would be better over the flashes on evening flight but i rarely find i have criples. Shot cup retention is a real issue with steel in some cartridges and chokes. Bannagi in 1/2 from my auto retain thier cup terrible even out at 35 yds yet at 1/4 they are fine. I recently changed to a Kicks HF ported choke and 36 grm Mamouth 3" from gamebore give me 22-26 strikes in the 10" centre aim point above the muzzle bead very consistantly at 40yds- No duck can fly through that if i do my bit! I do have a few more guns including a s/s 3" 12 bore that is choked skeet and skeet with short barrels Hull steel game 32g no.4 70mm shells produce some very even more open patterns with this gun- perfect for those teal at short range, i should use it more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) I use Bismuth , tungsten , hevi-shot and steel , but in the main steel. They all have their uses. One area I shoot is a tree lined river and you have to be pretty quick with your shot or the duck has disappeared behind a tree. So use Bismuth 5s in a 2 3\4 inch game gun. I also flight geese in some sand dunes. If the wind is strong enough to move the sand a semi auto is usless constantly jamming , so use hevi shot no5 for duck or hevi shot 3s or Tungstun 1s and 3s for the pinks in a 3 inch non steel proof magnum. However all these options are pricy , so its steel in my Browning Gold semi auto 3 1\2 inch for most of my shooting. 3 inch 36 gr in 3s for most duck or 3.5 inch 2s for high flight line mallard . 3.5 inch BBs or BBBs for geese. I see someone is using steel in 7.5 for duck , I would not use that to shoot butterflies let alone duck. 7.5 has too little range and too many pellets if you want to eat the bird. Edited October 22, 2012 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I use Bismuth , tungsten , hevi-shot and steel , but in the main steel. They all have their uses. One area I shoot is a tree lined river and you have to be pretty quick with your shot or the duck has disappeared behind a tree. So use Bismuth 5s in a 2 3\4 inch game gun. I also flight geese in some sand dunes. If the wind is strong enough to move the sand a semi auto is usless constantly jamming , so use hevi shot no5 for duck or hevi shot 3s or Tungstun 1s and 3s for the pinks in a 3 inch non steel proof magnum. However all these options are pricy , so its steel in my Browning Gold semi auto 3 1\2 inch for most of my shooting. 3 inch 36 gr in 3s for most duck or 3.5 inch 2s for high flight line mallard . 3.5 inch BBs or BBBs for geese. I see someone is using steel in 7.5 for duck , I would not use that to shoot butterflies let alone duck. 7.5 has too little range and too many pellets if you want to eat the bird. If you read my post you would see I had cut up not used its a clay shell 7.5 28g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Steel for me. Bornaghi do 36g in a 2 3/4 cartridge, 4 for duck and 1s for geese... Great cartridge that patterns well and will consistently kill out at 40+ yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Steel if i use my auto, Gamebore's offerings are good as are Remmington. If i use my light game gun its 34g buismuth or36g tungsten 1's for geese! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Steel for me. Bornaghi do 36g in a 2 3/4 cartridge, 4 for duck and 1s for geese... Great cartridge that patterns well and will consistently kill out at 40+ yards Yep. I agree with that but did have one batch when the whole plastic cartridge case could go up the barrel - all I was left with was the brass cartridge head in the chamber! A 36g steel Bornaghi slug! The thought of the pressures in my barrel scared me so much that I stopped using them. I still use steel but three inch 3's now for duck. BBs for geese. Edited October 22, 2012 by Big Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yep. I agree with that but did have one batch when the whole plastic cartridge case could go up the barrel - all I was left with was the brass cartridge head in the chamber! A 36g steel Bornaghi slug! The thought of the pressures in my barrel scared me so much that I stopped using them. I still use steel but three inch 3's now for duck. BBs for geese. WOW! I hope for the ducks sake you didn't hit any! Seriously though, that is extremely dangerous! Thankfully all of mine so far have been great cartridges. I'm planning on investing in a 3 1/2'' semi auto shortly so i can use some punchier loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 WOW! I hope for the ducks sake you didn't hit any! Seriously though, that is extremely dangerous! Thankfully all of mine so far have been great cartridges. I'm planning on investing in a 3 1/2'' semi auto shortly so i can use some punchier loads. Ha! You're right! Not surprisingly I hit nothing but I'm glad I was using it over open water. I've no idea how far it would travel but thankfully I had about 22miles of open water in front of me. Like you, I have just bought a 3 1/2 inch auto although I'll probably mostly just put 3 inch steel through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Mostly steel, due to cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Sorry Albert I had the impression that was alist of shells you used that you cut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Sorry Albert I had the impression that was alist of shells you used that you cut up. Its ok sometimes i jump to conclusions. And thankyou. Edited October 22, 2012 by Albert 888 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I use various steel loads mainly due to the price. I once tried tin but those moths at 5 yards were just to strong and the shot was bouncing off them I think !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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