Sprackles Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 The media has corrupted the due process of law. And the due process of Law is often applied in the light of political Correctness..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Fantastic news welcome home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 It is fantastic that someone stands convicted of a serious criminal offence, gets a Mickey Mouse sentence and we are celebrating. Bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Absolutely crackers. All too often we hear about people being tried and convicted by the media. This might be someone getting off the hook, but the principle is just the same. He had an illegal handgun and stacks of ammo. He should do the time for it. No other sod would get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margun Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 He had an illegal handgun and stacks of ammo. He should do the time for it. No other sod would get away with it. Couldnt agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I think, since his evidence was reviewed in a formal legal process, that we should accept the original sentence was wrong, and possibly the verdict - on that we shall see as he intends to appeal against prosecution. I havent known a formal court bend to political will, either positive or negative, so perhaps the 'he's guilty' perspective might need to review their position ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Glad he's out. Hope he keeps his job too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I havent known a formal court bend to political will, either positive or negative, so perhaps the 'he's guilty' perspective might need to review their position ? I don't think there's any doubt about his guilt...he pleaded guilty. Having read the court transcripts it seems to me that he got a fair sentence. I do wonder (as someone's already pointed out) if so much fuss would have been made had he been in the REME or RLC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 so perhaps the 'he's guilty' perspective might need to review their position ? That only seems to work one way. He is guilty - he made a guilty plea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 seems he's going to appeal the conviction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm glad he is out. He can be more use to his country in the army than in prison. He was wrong. He admitted that and he deserves the conviction. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 This law was created to give decent sentances to criminals. In my view this guy is about as far from a criminal as you can get. Yes he's broken the law, well kind of, but christ - give him a break! There's a good chance he couldn't even remember the gun was there. Things like this show that the world isn't black and white. This fella has done wrong but look at all the good he's done. He's risked his life for his country and now we've screwed him over. It's gone beyond making me angry - I almost want to cry thinking about how he's been treated after what he's been through. Man up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) I'm glad he is out. He can be more use to his country in the army than in prison. He was wrong. He admitted that and he deserves the conviction. Harry Yeah, that's exactly what'll happen, just like in the Steven Segal films you gawp at, with jaw dropped. He'll be briefed on the latest terror cell in the Middle East and rapidly deployed an chinook to sort out them Taliban! Back in time for tea and medals no doubt. The guy has more chance of co-hosting Countdown as the mathematician than being on active duty after this. It ain't the A Team mate! Edited December 1, 2012 by Salty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Yeah, that's exactly what'll happen, just like in the Steven Segal films you gawp at, with jaw dropped. He'll be briefed on the later terror cell in the Middle East and rapidly deployed an chinook to sort out them Taliban! Back in time for tea and medals no doubt. The guy has more chance of co-hosting Countdown as the mathematician than being on active duty after this. It ain't the A Team mate! The mod have already said they want him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Amazing really if he is struggling with memory loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 It's a bit of a soap opera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I do wonder (as someone's already pointed out) if so much fuss would have been made had he been in the REME or RLC? Quite, we all get a collective hard-on over the SAS don't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Amazing really if he is struggling with memory loss. He will be no good to the MOD. The memory loss means that he thinks he was a ballerina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Quite, we all get a collective hard-on over the SAS don't we? Speak for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Quite, we all get a collective hard-on over the SAS don't we? Exactly, as I went into a bit on the other thread running on this subject, it's those three magic letters that make ALL the difference. If he was some blanket stacker we'd have been baying for his blood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 surely the MOD wont want him if his memory loss makes him think hes Quadrophinia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 surely the MOD wont want him if his memory loss makes him think hes Quadrophinia Lol!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 What annoys me is they still refer to him as a hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 One thing if any of us ever get into trouble just use this as an example ,the judge will drop of the charges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Having heard all about this case over the last few weeks, ive just actually read the court documents which someone else posted a link to earlier in this thread. Its totally amazing how different the real story is compared to the one in the press. According to the evidence raised in court. The Sargent he was house sharing with and whose ex grassed him up to the police was done for having "lots of ammunition & firearms, incl a glock & a hand grenade." All lying about in the house / unlocked garage. This guy got 2 years. Now onto Nightingale. According to the evidence, he was given this glock in 2007 and sure enough had memory problems after. BUT... he was declared fit and back to work in late 2010 and after this the glock was moved to his new flat in Jan 2011. He unpacked the the bag and put the glock which was in its normal plastic gun case on the top shelf of his cupboard. He also had been taking home from work loads of ammo - 350 odd bullets incl armour piercing and he put them in a plastic stationary box and put under his bed. Neither were locked away. So his "lack of memory" only accounts to him not remembering fully where he got the gun. Not him moving it from secure army storage in 2011 to his house. And for him to not even check what was in the plastic glock gun case when he put it on the shelf in the cupboard seems bizzarre. The fact he put it on the top shelf of the cupboard and put the ammo under the bed suggests to me even if he had "forgotten" he had them, he had no excuse for not knowing he had them at that point in time. This is totally different story to the one i read in the press! Edited December 3, 2012 by jackinbox99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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