Mr Majyk Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 ive got a small permission with a friend for a bit of rabbit control, ironically its in a petting farm, the type where town folk come to see animals (including rabbits in cages, but were not allowed to shoot them ) the landowner has been very happy with the work we've done so far to clear the rabbits using .22lr and subsonic ammo. but we have one small warren in an enclosure. the problem being that theres no safe way to fire at the warren so i thought about purse nets over the burrows and as i dont have any ferrets and i dont know anyone with ferrets maybe i could use some kind of "smoke grenade" to flush the rabbits out and into the nets? just wondering if anyone had ever done this? is it a legal method of vermin control? and if it is where can i get some "smoke grenades" id like non toxic ones though as i do sell the meat and ive got someone who buys the tanned fur from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 What makes you think a smoke grenade would even work? These are commonly completely not irritant, non toxic and non stain! Otherwise it would be a GAS and cause all sorts of issues, put a shout out for the ferret boys, odds are someone will offer to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Could you use an air rifle to shoot them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) well im hopeing that smoke would spook them enough to get them out the warren and as far as i know most animals reaction to "smoke" is usually to leave the area sharpish! cant even use an air rifle as on one side theres a pen with llamas in at just the right height to get hit by a stray pellet and the other side is a raised pig pen, again at an inconvenient height. Edited November 14, 2012 by Mr Majyk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 well im hopeing that smoke would spook them enough to get them out the warren and as far as i know most animals reaction to "smoke" is usually to leave the area sharpish! cant even use an air rifle as on one side theres a pen with llamas in at just the right height to get hit by a stray pellet and the other side is a raised pig pen, again at an inconvenient height. BUT, the smoke generators are NOT toxic smoke as caused by a fire, they are NON Toxic and NON Irritant! Bunny is asleep half the time down his hole so he isn't even going to notice! Just my view, I have never tried this on the bunny, never had cause too, mine get shot, drop boxed or ferreted, and in the rare and very tricky situations they get Aluminium Phosphide, thats the end of the problem. Let me know how you get on, I simply don't know, but most things tell me this isn't going to work, hey, I could learn something here! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Get a petrol chain saw/similar, fill it up and have a oily mix so it smokes like hell, then attach a tube/similar to the exhaust and rev away...i have seen a video where they use this tactic to flush rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 well i'll give it a go! if it works i'll let you all know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I had a small bury in my garden a couple of years ago. They were youngsters having a first attempt at setting up home. I couldn't get the ferrets in because it was a box hedge about 5 ft thick, and being the middle of summer the garden was too full to get a shot at them from anywhere. There is a stream the other side of the hedge though... I blocked up most of the holes, set a large dirty water submersible pump I use for emptying footings into the stream, stuck the 2" hose into the highest hole as deep as i could and let em have it. They came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I had a small bury in my garden a couple of years ago. They were youngsters having a first attempt at setting up home. I couldn't get the ferrets in because it was a box hedge about 5 ft thick, and being the middle of summer the garden was too full to get a shot at them from anywhere. There is a stream the other side of the hedge though... I blocked up most of the holes, set a large dirty water submersible pump I use for emptying footings into the stream, stuck the 2" hose into the highest hole as deep as i could and let em have it. They came out. Well thats one way to do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 simple lol colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 You could get some smoke test tablets from your plumbers merchant,used for checking flues/chimneys etc and boy do they smoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 You could get some smoke test tablets from your plumbers merchant,used for checking flues/chimneys etc and boy do they smoke awesome! will have a look round next time im in town! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 well i'll give it a go! if it works i'll let you all know! :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RG4QkZovpQQ simple lol colin There are several problems with the Rodenator. First off the legislation around it is a nightmare, you can't KILL rabbits with it, just demolish the burrows when they are out :hmm: , and if you believe the reports many people have been injured by them (Not too difficult to believe looking at the demonstration), on top of that look at the cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigga Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 never tried it but im led to believe rabbits dont bolt from smoke and just sit it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 There are several problems with the Rodenator. First off the legislation around it is a nightmare, you can't KILL rabbits with it, just demolish the burrows when they are out :hmm: , and if you believe the reports many people have been injured by them (Not too difficult to believe looking at the demonstration), on top of that look at the cost! yes mate it was a tongue in cheek post hence the lol but i know what you mean, my boss has the use of one he said it cost his mate some £1300+ not cheep colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD1927 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 What's your location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I read somewhere once that soaking rags in creosote and wedging them down the burrow will make the rabbits come above ground eventually. Not tried this myself though so can't confirm this works.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 yes mate it was a tongue in cheek post hence the lol but i know what you mean, my boss has the use of one he said it cost his mate some £1300+ not cheep colin :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I read somewhere once that soaking rags in creosote and wedging them down the burrow will make the rabbits come above ground eventually. Not tried this myself though so can't confirm this works.... I'm sure it will but its nasty stuff. I've forced rabbits to abandon fresh burrows dug in the garden by daubing Stockholm tar on stones and pushing them down the holes and spreading it in the hole entrance. I tried it because I know its used to stop various animals tail biting and though I love the smell myself its horrible stuff on your clothes or stuck on the hairs of your arm. Perhaps rabbits feel the same about having it on their feet. Farmers certainly used to use creosote to evict badgers in the old days before the badger act. But its very toxic to the animal and the soil. Stockholm tar is harmless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) I read a book on ferreting years ago called pugs and drummers. In there it had the recipe for some smoke bombs designed to remove ferrets that had killed down below. It was brown paper soaked in a saltpetre delusion not sure if there was anything else in it tho worth a look if that's what you want to do. All the best Karl. Edited November 15, 2012 by Amazed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 How about a tempory backstop like some solid pallets left there for a few days and use an air rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 How about a tempory backstop like some solid pallets left there for a few days and use an air rifle? suggested that to the landowner but he doesnt like it as it "wont look to good to the public" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrypen Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 In my youth I used to visit my uncles farm in Cornwall,,,,,, when he had problems with moles and/ or rabbits in the garden he used to put carbide flakes down the runs ,,he then pored water on the carbide and blocked the hole,,,, the resultant gas would drive them out Used to be able to buy it in cycle shops,,,,Now maybe youd have to get it from caving supplies or such Very effective DONT SMOKE NEAR IT harrypen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibspoon Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I've been told to try brown paper soaked in diesel stuffed into the burrows. I'll give it a try over the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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