MM Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 very interesting vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 It goes to prove what many shooters say about the humble .22LR, it is an underated round - In the right hands! I've witnessed Ste12b off this forum shooting at hens eggs and hitting them with remarkable regularity at 200 yards with his .22LR using sub sonic ammunition, so with the right conditions it can be quite accurate as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 does it really take 59ft lb of energy to penetrate a 'half inch pine board?' i'm tempted to dig some out and test it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I think, as with all weapons, you can probably push it to the limits, but there's a big difference between shooting a piece of pine wood, or non moving eggs at silly distances, my granddad (carpenter) always taught me to use the correct tool for the job, so looking at the title of this post, but adding the word humanly I would still say 100yds or less, I personally have only shot live quarry at 80yds or less, you'r going to get those saying they can hit further, maybe so, but I know that what I aim at and shot, will be dead from the shot, if I wanted further shots, I would get the correct tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 .22lr is easy powerfull enough to humanely kill small quarry like rabbits at around 600yds if hit in the head or chest. Issue is i dont know anybody who can call or make that shot first time and i know some very fine shooters. Dont let the gental almost non existant recoil and tiny report fool you the average sub is 10 times as powerull as any full legal limit air rifle. cant be doing with the trash on u-tube being filmed by fools so i aint watched it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmj121 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 <80 yards to be sure, but you can push it further........... all about shot placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 The video is more about killing power than how accurate it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 my mate was zeroing here today, has shot no more than a couple hundred .22 lr in his life. Started with air rifles about 3yrs ago. Placing all his shots under 1" groups and 1st shot well within 1" of intended point of impact for the first cold shot at a 76 yds target, i only gave him an idea to drop and windage that might be required for it. I am quite positive he could chest shoot 10 out of 10 rabbits at a known 100yds or so with good data. everybody must know thier own limitations under the circumstances previaling at the time. With todays lazer rangefinders and windmeters from a static well rested stance i am sure some quite incredible shots that might never have been considered in the past are now quite do able with the best amunition. Shooting off hand with a ripping intermitant side wind at night in a muddy field is entirely a different matter though 30yds might be pushing it then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside1000 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Whilst living in new zealand a few years back I hunted with a .22 sportco (australian rifle) semi auto with a ten shot mag, I used high velocity ammo and regularly knocked over rabbits with head shots at 100 yards +, I used to set up the scope sights at 140 yards on a bean can and hit it 9 times out of 10. It was necessary to use a solid rest but at that range there was always plenty of time to get sighted., great days, alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 .22lr is easy powerfull enough to humanely kill small quarry like rabbits at around 600yds if hit in the head or chest. . Dont let the gental almost non existant recoil and tiny report fool you the average sub is 10 times as powerull as any full legal limit air rifle. cant be doing with the trash on u-tube being filmed by fools so i aint watched it though Bob Lee Swagger could lol sorry kent couldn't resist colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Bob Lee Swagger could lol sorry kent couldn't resist colin lol Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 If you zeroed at 50 yards roughly what would the drop be at 75 and 100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmj121 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 1 - 2 mill dots ? depends what ammo your using ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 So with standard sub Sonics you would need 2-3 inch holdover at 75 yards and 5-6 inches at 100? Or am I way out (i don't use mildots)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) my .22lr is 2.5 mil dots @ 100 yards is zeroed at 50 so 2.5 mil dots @100 is 2 1/2" drop as a mil dot is 1"@100 yrds or 2"@200 Edited November 16, 2012 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Thanks. So drop isn't the issue but accuracy is. Every day's a school day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 The best way to look at it is the actual cross hair intersection is not the only part of the sight picture. Know your rifle, ranges ground, drop etc and it's a versatile weapon IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Approx drop of a sub at 100 if a 50 yard zero is 7" which halfs if your using something pokey like CCI Stinger to just over 3". My scope has marks that tie up perfectly with a sub at 75, 100 and 150 yards and given you can sort your windage out 150 is within 2" group consistantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Bob Lee Swagger could lol sorry kent couldn't resist colin top film that pal, i think a bit of ******** as well, but good to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) top film that pal, i think a bit of ******** as well, but good to watch Top film. Wounder how much if true and how much is Hollywood ? Edited November 17, 2012 by Amazed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) So with standard sub Sonics you would need 2-3 inch holdover at 75 yards and 5-6 inches at 100? Or am I way out (i don't use mildots)? The drop depends on your ammo of choice and scope to bore set up but around 1 1/2" at 75 and 8" at 100 in nil wind effected conditions with usual .22 40grn subs. The hard bit is a 10mph FV will move you 4" at the 100yds so a 2 1/2 mph FV is still going to do 2" and thats a hard wind to call, add in user error and the odd duff round increasing group size. In practice choosing your shot placement say neck shots for a less predictable side wind to impact either the head, aim point or the chest in a switching wind helps (working to your mid estimate). Maybee waiting for a rabbit to stand on back legs for a trajectory estimate with a similar throat / base of scull aim point. The big issue with a lot of newcommers seems to be misleading info regards mildots and a real over emphisis on drop. You can learn drop real quick but acounting for wind, quarry movement, shooting the wind cycle and choosing a safe sided shot takes time and many hundreds or thousands of rounds. in practice its easy enough with a 6x scope with std reticule if you put the time in Edited November 17, 2012 by kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 if your useing a mil dot reticle then download the hawke ballistic software,type in the details and the results wont be far out ,probably within a couple of yards,set up a target and practice and practice and practice you will find the results quite rewarding,the .22 is a very underestimated round,but as kent said learning the drop is one thing,windage and other issues are another thing all together but that applys to all ammo i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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