12boreblue Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Many years a go I shot a pigeon with 32gram 6 cartridge, admittedly it was more luck than judgment, I was on a walk up in Devon, the beater who saw me hit it told me to measure in steps from my place of shooting to the pigeon. The pigeon was crossing so not much deviation from striking point to landing point. It took 96 well placed steps to reach the pigeon. so reckon well over 70 yards! ps I am only 3ft tall!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Then you sir are a fool of the highest order !! How dose that saying go? It takes one to know one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam-1990 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 How dose that saying go? It takes one to know one. Lets not have a bust up over it. I wouldnt let anyone shoot at shotgun at me on purpose at any range just in case it does some damage ya never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyD Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 ive said it before and il say it again. Id let you shoot at me at 70yards with 6s Anybody that's mental enough to deliberately shoot you at 70 yards, isn't going to care whether or not they have your permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I was shooting some weeks ago at pigeon, we had 61, I was at right angles to him, I SWEAR, I am a good distance guesser as I practice walking to lamp posts and trees etc: I am not a Bull --****** It must have been 150 yds:. it may well have been a one in a lifetime, but christ it looked good: The gun Was : FULL& FULL : Both barrels, I sold it him some weeks ago: My mate who gave it me used it on Grouse for many years in Ireland, it was his fathers gun before that, And it had been re-sleeved to make it last:: I did tell him it was tight:lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 let me try please as long as you dont go police bleeding they would sting a tad im sure but would be funny Think he`d find they`d do a bit more than sting and it certainly wouldn`t be funny to be shot at that range Swiss. I`ve seen the results too often ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Think he`d find they`d do a bit more than sting and it certainly wouldn`t be funny to be shot at that range Swiss. I`ve seen the results too often ! You regualy see people shot at 70m with 6s? You carnt kill a goose with a body shot with 6s at 40m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 is that an american 6, UK 6, or european 6? some of the carp on here is unbelieveable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 You carnt kill a goose with a body shot with 6s at 40m. Have you tried then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Guys peddling the fact that "you think" 70yds is a safe enough range to be hit by a game load is at best irresponsible at worst dangerously misleading! A friend of mine once shot at a large dog that had been consistently worrying his sheep, his intention was not to kill it but non the less it dropped on the spot a single pellet entering just below the scull. 99 times out of 100 it would have just yelped and run off - this time it didn't! Shotgun pellet ballistics are unpredictable, shot can ball together etc. We have all seen flukey long kills just don't try them and never predict the safe range to be less than around 300 yds as it don't take much to loose an eye and the main artery in the neck aint all that deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Have you tried then? Yer. I usually try to aim for the head tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yer. I usually try to aim for the head tho. What a good bloke you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yer. I usually try to aim for the head tho. you love winding this lot up mister why don't you tell them that time you hit that crow with .243 sat on fence at over 300 yards gud shot tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 How dose that saying go? It takes one to know one. A friend of mine lost a eye after being shot at a range around that at which you would be happy to be shot , he also had another 9 pellets removed from his head. And you are suggesting its fine to be shot , perhaps me calling you a fool is a little bit of a underestimation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Guys peddling the fact that "you think" 70yds is a safe enough range to be hit by a game load is at best irresponsible at worst dangerously misleading! A friend of mine once shot at a large dog that had been consistently worrying his sheep, his intention was not to kill it but non the less it dropped on the spot a single pellet entering just below the scull. 99 times out of 100 it would have just yelped and run off - this time it didn't! Shotgun pellet ballistics are unpredictable, shot can ball together etc. We have all seen flukey long kills just don't try them and never predict the safe range to be less than around 300 yds as it don't take much to loose an eye and the main artery in the neck aint all that deep I`m too much of a coward to really let someone shoot at me, whatever the distance.The point that was being made was that at that distance ( 70 yds )it would be more of a fluke to kill a pigeon with No 6 shot. I will be careful in the future to make my posts more obvious for you so that I don`t` offend,or be irresponsible or misleading. I wouldn`t` condone anyone shooting at anyone or any thing without the intention of killing same, unlike your friend shooting at a dog with the intention of ?, wounding.I think that is far more irresponsible than any comment made on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) But on the other hand i live to tell the tale. 58grs of vmax is deadly swiss. You carnt beat a cavity wall for a backstop. Edited January 1, 2013 by cockercas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I`m too much of a coward to really let someone shoot at me, whatever the distance.The point that was being made was that at that distance ( 70 yds )it would be more of a fluke to kill a pigeon with No 6 shot. I will be careful in the future to make my posts more obvious for you so that I don`t` offend,or be irresponsible or misleading. I wouldn`t` condone anyone shooting at anyone or any thing without the intention of killing same, unlike your friend shooting at a dog with the intention of ?, wounding.I think that is far more irresponsible than any comment made on this thread. I disagree. Id want the thing to go home with a few pellets lodged in its head. Might make the owners more responsibale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I`m too much of a coward to really let someone shoot at me, whatever the distance.The point that was being made was that at that distance ( 70 yds )it would be more of a fluke to kill a pigeon with No 6 shot. I will be careful in the future to make my posts more obvious for you so that I don`t` offend,or be irresponsible or misleading. I wouldn`t` condone anyone shooting at anyone or any thing without the intention of killing same, unlike your friend shooting at a dog with the intention of ?, wounding.I think that is far more irresponsible than any comment made on this thread. Make no mistake if they were my sheep it would have gotten the deer rifle ! He did not intend to kill for political reasons on the other hand many like me couldn't care less for politics. The dog owner was actually OK with it in the end realising the issue was theirs not his. non the less he wanted it off the sheep. There is nothing wrong with a shepherd protecting his stock from a stock worrying dog IF lethal or less than lethal methods are used. If you think that irresponsible then best stay away from sheep country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam-1990 Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Make no mistake if they were my sheep it would have gotten the deer rifle ! He did not intend to kill for political reasons on the other hand many like me couldn't care less for politics. The dog owner was actually OK with it in the end realising the issue was theirs not his. non the less he wanted it off the sheep. There is nothing wrong with a shepherd protecting his stock from a stock worrying dog IF lethal or less than lethal methods are used. If you think that irresponsible then best stay away from sheep country Is it not illegal to shoot at a dog or cat ? surely if the police got wind their licence would be took off them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 You can shoot a dog if its worrying sheep. With a shot gun or if your fac is conditioned to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam-1990 Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 You can shoot a dog if its worrying sheep. With a shot gun or if your fac is conditioned to do so Is this just a rule for sheep or any livestock like horses or cows ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Is this just a rule for sheep or any livestock like horses or cows ? All livestock including poultry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Back on topic please, or this one can be put to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 liam,dont do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam-1990 Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I have no intentions of shooting a dog nor do I want to go off topic, But thanks for all the replys very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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