graham holmes Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 hi every one can you tell me if a SAK moderater is any good for my Savage 93 17 HMR, or what should i use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Sound wise as good as anything else, looks wise there are better. All depends on what you like the look of and how much money you want to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee. Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Its the round going supersonic that's the problem. Ive got a SAK as people recommended them as the best compromise between value for money / sound reduction. For £35 it aint going to break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 The SAK will work well with a .17HMR. You will still get the 'crack' when firing, but it does reduce it. Another good, but dearer mod' is a DM80. I have one on mine, but cannot say that it's any quieter than the SAK, although it does look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Unbeatable value for money. Bit of a tin can but works as well as any of them and very light. Comes apart easy and cleans easily too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Got a SAK on my .17hmr Anshutz works well. But there is always a bit of kaaabooooommmm! The other gun .22LR with Eley subs and SAK mod goes puh then puuf as it hits the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Unbeatable value for money. Bit of a tin can but works as well as any of them and very light. Comes apart easy and cleans easily too. This post pretty much sums the SAK up really. And i use one to... Edited January 11, 2013 by jam1e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Yep sak for me Edited January 11, 2013 by Fisheruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid basher Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I am torn between the sak and a dm80 also Has in my last post I have orderd one off dave but he is on holiday At the moment, so I'm using my sak off my lr and to be onist it's not that bad at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangon Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 When i got my 17hmr it came with a LEI mod on it, These are pretty expensive, over £100. I had a Sak on my .22lr and decided to see if there was any difference so put the sak on my 17 hmr. No difference whatsoever to my ears. So buy a Sak and job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Sak is good and also cheap. I now use DM80 on both my .22LR and .17HMR and they are much better build quality. Depending on how much barrel sticks out beyond your stock the DM80 will sleeve over it, in effect making your barrel shorter - a good thing. My main criticism of the Sak when used on a "busy" hmr is that the baffles will get burnt out by the heat and shock. Sak was really designed for the subsonic .22 which is a much more gentle round. The hole in the Sak is built for .22 but the DM80 is built for .17 (smaller hole) so obviously you cannot interchange a .17 DM80 onto a .22 although you could use a .22 DM80 on a .17 I don't think they make a Sak specifically for .17 In summary, get a DM80 from Dave if you can - he is a nice bloke and it is excellent. If you have a short barrel he will customise the moderator as required. Failing that, get a Sak and if you find it is deteriorating and getting its baffled a bit chewed up throw it away and get another one (over the counter, for your "air rifle" of course - smile). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I've got an lei .17 hmr mod on mine. It works well and it's small. Expensive though at about 130 quid but its a dedicated hmr moderator made specifically for that calibre, so you can expect longevity and good performance. Depends how much you want to spend. It's quieter than my friends SAK mod that he has on his hmr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingnewport Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 if the SAK has fibre baffles then dont use it, the .17 is a fast round and rips the baffles over time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) This is all down to a number of factors. The DM80 is the quietest Mod I have ever used on my HMR....JUST, it is also without doubt the biggest and heaviest and nearly the most expensive. Size and weight effect rifle balance, cost effects your pocket and noise effects your ears etc. SAK does well for me all round, it is rated for 10,000 HMR according to Jackson Rifles who will also replace forever at 60% cost. You can fire a LOT or rounds through a SAK and get a lot of replacement mods for a lot less then a DM80, as for noise, the difference is very small! http://www.jacksonri.../SAK-manual.pdf Lots of different mods out there, personally the SAK works for me, however I do also rate the Sako, costs more than the SAK but still way cheaper than a DM80. ...............Sako........................... Sirocco............................SAK Pass on the Sirocco! Edited January 12, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Mac Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I would say DM80 I had a Sirocco it burnt out in no time (200 rounds) the DM80 is still going after at least 1500 rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 SAK does well for me all round, it is rated for 10,000 HMR according to Jackson Rifles who will also replace forever at 60% cost. You can fire a LOT or rounds through a SAK and get a lot of replacement mods for a lot less then a DM80, as for noise, the difference is very small! They last well if you keep them clean. Do it when you clean the rifle. I use a fouling solvent and an old 12 bore bronze brush which fits the baffle holes a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Orbit Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I have a SAK on my Sako Quad 17hmr and think its better than the scirroco SM11 I used previously. The hmr has hotter and more muzzle blast than 22's and that erodes thin baffles (in scirroco). The SAK uses circular chambers running across the bore to disrupt the shock wave which don't erode so quick. I find there's no discernable difference (without a meter) in sound moderation between the two but the SAK will last longer than Scirroco and it's far easier to clean. You'll never shut up the hmr completely like a 22 as it's well supersonic. Laws of Physics sadly. I use the scirroco on my Anschutz 525 22LR and using RWS subs I think it's maybe a little quieter than the SAK was. The SAK is shorter and maybe lighter than the Scirroco which makes it better handling IMO on a full length barrel. The Anschutz is very short so I don't notice the extra length at all. You can spend an awful lot of money on mods and you won't really notice any startling differences in silencing performance, some are better than others though, certainly in build quality & longevity. PES are nice. IMO for 17hmr, you want either steel or fairly thick baffles. Ask the retailer what's inside the can. After that it's really how much length and weight you can tolerate. I'm happy enough with SAK on my hmr & scirocco on my 22 with subs. Hope this helps. Regards, Mark. Has anyone tried a steel Parker Hale on 17hmr? Any good? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I used a Parker Hale moderator on my .22LR years ago. I also tried it on my .17HMR. It worked well, and I can't say that I noticed any noise difference when on the 17HMR, to my SAK mod'. For the price, they are well worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Something peculiar to the SAK / HMR marriage is the back of the can has been known to spit tiny particles back onto scope lenses that are mounted too close putting tiny blemishes in the coatings. Its not the end of the world though in the case of cheaper scopes, its a moddy developed for .22 subs as someone has already stated BUT it can be used up to .22 WMR. I had one on mine, it got quieter as the muck built up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper1984 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 100% vote for sak mod. Have one on my cz american for 7 years now. Cuts out the blast but still cracks off. Nice sound at night bullet seems 'sizzle' through the air followed by a smack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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