Pedro Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Not a million miles away Elby, northwest from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 A busy day in the BASC communications centre. We have given interviews on deer population management and the benefits of venison to Sky News live, Channel 5 news, BBC Radio Scotland, BBC Radio Wales, BBC Radio Cymru (Welsh language) and BBCRadios Solent, Gloucestershire, Leicester, Surrey and Sussex Cornwall, Three Counties, Lancashire, Devon, Lincolnshire, Norfolk and Wiltshire. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 A busy day in the BASC communications centre. We have given interviews on deer population management and the benefits of venison to Sky News live, Channel 5 news, BBC Radio Scotland, BBC Radio Wales, BBC Radio Cymru (Welsh language) and BBCRadios Solent, Gloucestershire, Leicester, Surrey and Sussex Cornwall, Three Counties, Lancashire, Devon, Lincolnshire, Norfolk and Wiltshire. David At least your not letting the antis get all the air time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Did you know this story was coming ? Or was it all a bit manic today at HQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 We got the first call at about 5pm yesterday, calls kept coming in from TV / Radio up to about 8pm, first film crew where here at 7.30 this morning, Ch 5 are here now... David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 It's on Radio 4 now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Is it time to start suggesting legalising lamping muntjac etc and seeing how upset you can get the BDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) A busy day in the BASC communications centre. We have given interviews on deer population management and the benefits of venison to Sky News live, Channel 5 news, BBC Radio Scotland, BBC Radio Wales, BBC Radio Cymru (Welsh language) and BBCRadios Solent, Gloucestershire, Leicester, Surrey and Sussex Cornwall, Three Counties, Lancashire, Devon, Lincolnshire, Norfolk and Wiltshire. David Good work. I'll have to watch Sky News, Channel 5, etc. I agree completely that deer need to be culled more. Numbers and range of all deer species are increasing. Muntjac deer have been linked to the decline of birds like nightingales, although all deer species are a problem. How long before the antis come out and start shouting? EDIT: Animal Aid have said something already. As usual, in complete denial of all evidence when they say that deer don't damage woodland. Whatever science says, Animal Aid say the exact opposite. They claim that deer culling is down to "vested interests". Howcome conservation organisations who spend money to cull them and make little if any money from it take part? http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/news_wildlife//2841// Edited March 7, 2013 by Reece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Nightingales have declined across the UK including Kent, there are very few deer in Kent I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Nightingales have declined across the UK including Kent, there are very few deer in Kent I believe. Deer aren't the only reason, but they are one of them. Woodland being neglected and "left to nature" is another one. Besides, there are deer in Kent. Unsure about numbers but Fallow and Roe are widespread according to the British Deer survey, and several others are present in patches across Kent. http://www.bds.org.uk/great_british_deer_survey_2011_results.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halight Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Is the market big enough for the sale of all the meat? If they are going to cull all these animals every year. then I would wont to see the meat marketed. I would not wont it to just go to waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutty Boots Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 There was a discussion & phone in on radio 2s lunchtime slot today that I wanted to listen to on this subject, but I was dealing with an angry misinformed customer at the time & missed it, typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I would happily buy more venison but it is still somehow more expensive than the beef and lamb that I buy from local farmers. I would love to go deer stalking one day but it is prohibitively expensive and seems to be a rather exclusive. Hopfully any cull will get more venison available and at keener prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Around my way we have seen a dramatic increase in muntjac and roe over the last 3-4 years, to the extent that for the first time ever my main farmer has asked me specifically to start tackling the numbers. We are in prime long term muntjac territory, so they have been around in decent numbers for the 19 years I have been shooting there, but the destruction seems to have really spiked in the last 12 months, and roe were pretty much a rarity until the year before last. There are fallow about too, but in much smaller numbers. I've only ever seen one doe, but the slots I come across suggest they come and go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Is the market big enough for the sale of all the meat? If they are going to cull all these animals every year. then I would wont to see the meat marketed. I would not wont it to just go to waste. I've seen one or two news articles now on how to cook venison, and I think BASC has been promoting the meat as well. Given what's been in the news about meat lately, the market will probably expand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Trouble is if the market is flooded with venison the game dealers will drop prices they pay even more and it will make shooting them not worth while. Noticed it for many years now, start of the season £1 per lb but as soon as the doe's come in and container loads are sent down from Jockland prices go down to 45p per lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Man in the street never pays that. I'm sure if venison was available for £2 per pound, it would fly off the shelves. Edited March 7, 2013 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Just seen BASC on channel 5 news (on channel 5 +1). Very well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r188t Skip to 2:25:19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Trouble is if the market is flooded with venison the game dealers will drop prices they pay even more and it will make shooting them not worth while. Noticed it for many years now, start of the season £1 per lb but as soon as the doe's come in and container loads are sent down from Jockland prices go down to 45p per lb Could that be because there's no real developed UK market? There are some 2 million adult beef animals in the UK at any one time but the price of beef doesn't drop when a load are sold to slaughter. Supply and demand rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axor Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Here is a link to the University of East Anglia form where the study originates http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2013/March/deer-cull-research Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Just listened to the link above on radio 5 and Simon Clark was superb! he handled that anti brilliantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Could that be because there's no real developed UK market? There are some 2 million adult beef animals in the UK at any one time but the price of beef doesn't drop when a load are sold to slaughter. Supply and demand rules. No it's generally cos game dealers are robbing ********, their prices don't drop.It's always the same, start of the season they beg for it then want to pay peanuts when they can get a steady supply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pboro shot Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 deer should and do get managed the big problem being is not always very well ,some land owners/deer managers dont quite get how it should be done trouble is deer have a very good survival instict start heavy culling ,it will work for a few weeks maybe months then forget about it for numbers to be nocked down as the studys ask for night shooting is the way to go not the sporting way but sometimes the only way to clear numbers a permit will need to be sought but if its needed best way no point flooding the countryside with stalkers a few guys could meet the cull numbers on a estate within no time but like i said not very sporting and certainly not somthing id enjoy but if it needs doing,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Around my way we have seen a dramatic increase in muntjac and roe over the last 3-4 years, to the extent that for the first time ever my main farmer has asked me specifically to start tackling the numbers. We are in prime long term muntjac territory, so they have been around in decent numbers for the 19 years I have been shooting there, but the destruction seems to have really spiked in the last 12 months, and roe were pretty much a rarity until the year before last. There are fallow about too, but in much smaller numbers. I've only ever seen one doe, but the slots I come across suggest they come and go. This year is extreme I have gained some decent fallow stalking as well and it's simply down to this years damage, with far less in the way of winter crops established I think they have less to feed on so have had to get stuck into anything in the woodland under storey more than usual. We are close to Woburn so muntjacs have been about as long as anywhere and they are fine if you shoot them hard but you have to keep doing it as you won't ever wipe them out just attempt to keep numbers down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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