pestcontrol1 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 i have been given some of the above shells i am trying to find abit out about them age and so on i will put a pic up later they are in a card box with a orange paper around them with the details on address imperial metal industries (kynoch) limited birmingham b6 7ba england 7/8 #6 50mm. And on the side of the box is a code 43R31A. I thought that they would have been paper cases but they apear to be plastic in good condition. Dose ant one know where i can look to find out more about them any info would be great cheers pc1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Damn! Thought I was with you, but sadly not. I have a box as you describe and also some loose 2" rounds which I assumed would belong to the box. The 2" are exactly that: loose, as the box is 28 bore. This lot was my late father's but he never owned a 28. Eley should be able to help as they're not truly historical or antique. The price on the 28s is £1.89. They may ask whether the shot size (also on the over shot card) is stamped on the box or on a white strip stuck on the box which doubles up as a seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 the shot size is on the box and the over shot card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Eley two inch have been made for many years. There were two inch chambered shotguns made but not many. Mostly they are a light load used in ordinary shotguns. http://www.sportingsupplies.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d194.html look in the 12bore game cartridge section. Edited April 3, 2013 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 there was a norwich gunmaker (im havin a senior moment..forgotton the name)...who used to make Avent-tout boxlocks i think 25 inch specially for partridge shooting on the fens...where pheasants were considered to be vermin !...his guns were chambered 2 inch......i think it was a partridge thing ahhhhhhh remember the name ..Rosson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not uncommon in the 1950s. Paper cased with a rolled turnover with the ICI stamp on the head. The cap (primer) in these was the Type 1B in a captive brass battery cup that helped hold the shell together like a rivet. I reckon the ones you have, if plastic, have a Fiocchi 209 primer with a copper battery cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 The ones that i have eley 12 printed around the head the heads not brass or copper its sliver in colour with a copper primer with a silver ring around it Not uncommon in the 1950s. Paper cased with a rolled turnover with the ICI stamp on the head. The cap (primer) in these was the Type 1B in a captive brass battery cup that helped hold the shell together like a rivet. I reckon the ones you have, if plastic, have a Fiocchi 209 primer with a copper battery cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Get a pic up; the primer sounds like a Surefire. The head is of the 'tinned' steel type of the later years, 1970/80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 2 inch loads are Fine in any chamber gun , they are a light load , i find them ideal for bolting rabbits because they dont blast the wabbit to bits , just make sure you use a good chamber brush after using them or you might get ejection problems when you go back to 65's or 70's The ones you have are 1970's / 80's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Cheers peeps i will put some pics on in a while cam on charge the wife has been using it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 there was a norwich gunmaker (im havin a senior moment..forgotton the name)...who used to make Avent-tout boxlocks i think 25 inch specially for partridge shooting on the fens...where pheasants were considered to be vermin !...his guns were chambered 2 inch......i think it was a partridge thing ahhhhhhh remember the name ..Rosson... A lot of the old Rosson guns where made with 2 inch chambers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hears a couple of pics hopfully and another one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) These would be made right at the end of the era where Eley used their own case and cap (primer). They will be fibre wadded. Edited April 4, 2013 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Would that be early 80s The lad who gave me them has a 1000 or more and was hoping they might be worth a few ££££ but i told him they were probly not worth out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't mind a box or 3 of these!! Mick, do you have any? Edited April 4, 2013 by M.I.A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 wow they look as good as new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 wow they look as good as new. They are aga just a very little rust on the odd one i am going to put a couple through the gun an see if they have been damp but apart from that pristine just the same as all the eley 3" 410 shell he got and they work just fine well the pigeon din"t complain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Would that be early 80s The lad who gave me them has a 1000 or more and was hoping they might be worth a few ££££ but i told him they were probly not worth out Have a look on Just Cartridges but sit down first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 lol don't forget to sniff the empty's. the smell of them old eley's is bloody marvelous. They are aga just a very little rust on the odd one i am going to put a couple through the gun an see if they have been damp but apart from that pristine just the same as all the eley 3" 410 shell he got and they work just fine well the pigeon din"t complain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 lol don't forget to sniff the empty's. the smell of them old eley's is bloody marvelous. No good me sniffing the empty i have no sence of smell its **** at times but ace when your in car with the wife and drop a right cracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't mind a box or 3 of these!! Mick, do you have any? I have 2 one gallon ice cream tubs and 2 SA80 ammo boxes full which I can't/ won't sell as they're home loads. These are proper 2", not 2" and a bit, with a crimp closure loaded with No 7s. Edited April 4, 2013 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 he has some #7s as well as the #6s price on just carts £277 i thought they would be a bit cheaper then that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) ...and these are their ancestors from the 1920/30s! Bit out of focus! Done in a rush....will re-post in a few days with some real treats, Edited April 4, 2013 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 FC, What a cracking picture! Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanky Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 How about these for a selection of 2" cartridges from my collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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