Reeceknight Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Wasn't sure if this is for the DIY section or gun section so sorry if its rong Ok so finally decided to get on here for some advice, I have acquired for a very good price (one could not have said no to) a AYA no2 sidelock. Now cosmetically it's in need of some help to say the least, I was goin to have the barrels, trigger guard , and rear leaver blued by a gun smith but haven't had a quote for this yet and the wood defnatly needs finishing, after taking side plates off it clear that it was one of the colour case hardened ones but the entire action on the outside is silver. So I was also hoping to give all the silver a polish, have tryed wire wool and oil but that hasn't touched it. I don't really know we're to start if I'm honest. I have had it proofed and fired it and I know inside its a beautiful crafted gun waiting to be brought back to its former glory. Do I use polishing wheels for this with a polish? Should I attempt this on my own? Are the home blueing kits any good? Is there any one on here who is a gun smith or capable of doing this?lol .....the questions go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 personaly i would never attemp work on suchanice gun! I would sugest you seek out a gunsmith for the metal work and the woodwork could be done by some body on.here iv seen some nicely finnished guns by lads off here! Look in the diy section and have a look there! Plenty of info there ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I'm re-bluing an old air rifle at the moment but I don't think the kits are all that good, and certainly won't give you a lasting finish, so I'm trying an old technique called slow rust bluing. It's not for the faint-hearted but the materials are cheap and readily available and the finish is very hard wearing. The woodwork is fairly straight forward but it is easy to mess up if you don't take your time. There are lots of threads about stock finishing but if you want a good finish on the barrels and action I'd ask a few gunsmiths rather than ruin them by making a mistake. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Nice gun, I'm also interested In Hearing the replies as I have a 100 year old hammer gun which I am looking at redoing the woodwork and the side plates on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I'm at a complete loss with cleaning up the sideplates and metal work etc, it would appear the guns been used for years probably on the coast because being a welder fabricator I know a thing or two about metals and I can imagine only 30 years of salt would do this? I was also doing research on case hardening and we was going to attempt it at work in a cheaper gun, then I watched "American guns" on discovery channel and they spoke about how hard it was and what can go rong. Can the metal work be re colour hardened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) There's no way that you can do this yourself. The first thing you need is a quote or two for the work. This will include the faults that you haven't spotted. It may just be that a total refurb - unless it's Grand-dads old piece which we know it isn't - may just be uneconomic. It does look to be off the face as well but this may just be the light/photo. Edit: Oops, forgot to say, the age of the gun can easily be found by going to the AYA website armed with the serial number Edited June 20, 2013 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 There's no way that you can do this yourself. The first thing you need is a quote or two for the work. This will include the faults that you haven't spotted. It may just be that a total refurb - unless it's Grand-dads old piece which we know it isn't - may just be uneconomic. It does look to be off the face as well but this may just be the light/photo. Edit: Oops, forgot to say, the age of the gun can easily be found by going to the AYA website armed with the serial number It is off the face slightly (good eyes!), iv had it proofed as well, been to park street gun who was helpfully and explained that if I could get it sorted, serviced and looking nice for under what they sell for then I'm not wasting money lol so iv seen them vary in price but I still don't want to go mental with it I want to just use and enjoy it. Iv been quoted about 400 for barrels, service and clean up etc basically everything exept the wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlistairB Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 The wood is quite simple to do and get a good oil finish on it, there's loads of topics on here about it - take your pick! AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 These AYA no2 good guns? Would people say its worth doing, I love it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) I'd be inclined to have the barrels blued (plus any of the bits you also want done, but leave the action well alone; it's fine as it is for my money) and put back on the face - do it now before it gets complicated/expensive - and any other mechanical faults corrected - always cheaper to go to the 'smith once as opposed to two or three times as the gun will already be partially stripped. As regards the wood, if Dennis at UK Gun Repairs, for example, is out of the equation, then I'm with Alistair but don't attempt the checkering or it WILL have to go to Dennis. Edited June 20, 2013 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Give Dennis a shout to do the action and blueing There are a couple to guys on here who do good blacking (wants rust a blacking on the barrels not caustic). Don't use a DIY kit. If I can help give a shout via here or my website dmshooting.co.uk I'm just finishing a no2 refurb and they look great and shoot great when all up together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I think there are some bits you can do - depending on your skill level. I'm keen to try this myself. Check out the videos on the Midway USA site - in particular where he restores an old Parker shotgun. http://www.midwayusa.com/General.mvc/Index/VideoLibrary Click under Gun Projects, then 'Antique Parker shotgun'. Quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Its a matter of personal taste of course, but I wouldn't polish up anything bright that was originally colour hardened. You only have to look at the second hand market of old English guns to see that polished actions achieve lower prices than guns that show honest, time served wear. It was very popular in the early 90s (I think) to polish up worn actions bright, I think they look awful. With a proper reblue to the barrels, top lever and trigger guard, your gun will look very smart indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Give Dennis a shout to do the action and blueing There are a couple to guys on here who do good blacking (wants rust a blacking on the barrels not caustic). Don't use a DIY kit. If I can help give a shout via here or my website dmshooting.co.uk I'm just finishing a no2 refurb and they look great and shoot great when all up together. I avoided saying this because you don't say where you are. As a new member, you probably aren't aware of the high regard which Dennis and the guys are held by PW members who've had work done for them by them. I had my Churchill blacked and checkering recut to London standards and the gun is an absolute delight and the cost did not break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Where are you based? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Another shout for Dennis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlistairB Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 For the wood, here's one I did - I'm not suggesting by any stretch of the imagination that it was a top job, but it does go to show what even a cack handed idiot like me can achieve. AB http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/205994-project-spanish-has-started/?hl=%2Bproject+%2Bspanish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Thanks ever so much for all your replys, I think il go down the root of having a smith do all of it as I feel the gun deserves it, I'm pretty good with my hands I build helicopters for the mod (weld and fabricate) so in my head I think I should be able to doit but il never doit like a gun smith can. My mistake when doing projects is thinking everything is easy lol I'm from Hertfordshire so is there answer close to me or anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 For the wood, here's one I did - I'm not suggesting by any stretch of the imagination that it was a top job, but it does go to show what even a cack handed idiot like me can achieve. AB http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/205994-project-spanish-has-started/?hl=%2Bproject+%2Bspanish See that looks spot on mate! Now I'm thinking I should try it hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 PW member richardh is in Milton Keyenes - no too far away depending where in HERTS you are. He does hot blueing. Ladbrook & Langton - gunsmith in Radlett - http://www.gunrepair.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straightshooter1 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 well if you need the woodwork done give me a shout here is my topic http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/60285-stock-repair-and-refinnishing/page-27 regards sacha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Another shout for Dennis. And another, he refurbed a SxS that belonged to my grandfather not a quality gun but lots of sentimental value! Very very pleased with the result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 can someone point me in the direction of this mystical "Dennis" iv heard so much about please? Does he have a shop, or contact details or is Dennis his user name on here? looking at everyone else's refurbs I'm gagging to have this done now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Google UK Gun Repairs. If you live South West - use them. Woodwork - up North - use Straightshooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I am picking up my SBS refurb on Saturday done by Kent wool growers ill let you know how it looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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