wildfowler.250 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 I'm going to buy a fair few shells in before the season starts and needing some new steel. I'm wanting to know what your preferred loads are for geese and duck shooting on the shore? I was thinking of buying in Remington nitro steel 1 3/8th oz BB's for the 12 for geese and possibly the same in size 2 for ducks? Whats the difference between the nitro and the sportsman steel remington do? I assume the nitro is better as that's all I seem to read about on here. I have read quite a few people talk about gamebore shells for ducks...would you recommned these over the remingtons for the ducks and if so what type/load/shot size? Is the lightening steel by eley any good? again load and size? Really appreciate the as many replies to this as possible before I fork out for the new season. Counting down already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 When I use the 12 I get remi nitro steel The sportsman steel just doesn't perform as well as it says 'on the tin', personally I think they are a poor shell. Have used the gamebore mammoth 3inch 36g 3s also, they seem to be good cartridges at a good price I always pick the remi nitro now though, I have confidence in it, through the 12 and 10bore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Each to their own, but here's my preferred cartridges. 32g Super Steel No.3's for duck. 42g Mammoth Steel BB's for geese. I rate ALL the gamebore steel very highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 I have no idea. I am not even sure how to judge. All you can do is pattern them and use them regularly. Get used to one cartridge for duck and one for geese and stick to it would be on advice. Or just stick to one that could do both. Its more to do with your aim and not shooting out of range ? Its no good saying this is good or bad after you hit or miss something first shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Cheers for the replies already bought some express steel last season and its awful. I'm not convinced it does the job even when you aim in the right place! ps ayano3, what are you normally using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 My favourite steel is an 1810 quality low sulphur, low phosphorus, ally killed, medium carbon steel, very difficult but very rewarding to make. Sorry I'm loving my job as a metallurgist at SSI UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Gamebore, 3.5" does the job every time: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Gamebore, 3.5" does the job every time: I'll second that for geese I have found nothing better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Gamebore steel do the job very well #1 for goose and #3 for duck. Lightening steel were hard to got hold of last year so didn't get a chance to try them but I'm told they don't perform aswell as they say on the tin( not as fast as as stated) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Another vote for the gamebore mammoths. 36g 3 for the duck and 3.5 #1 if after the geese. Been happy with these for the last couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony G Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Despite the theory you need bigger shot in steel I love the gamebore mammoth in 5 for duck. Winchester drylok in 2 for geese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Gamebore 36 grm no.3 mammoth are my favourite all round shell on the foreshore, will manage a big goose with good shooting sensible range. The Nitro steel is a cracking shell in 3 12" or 3" 12 gauge BBB geese or no.2 in the 3" for duck, it benefits from a large polymer buffer and really good sealing on the primer and crimp- but its dear for duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Another vote for the gamebore mammoths. 36g 3 for the duck and 3.5 #1 if after the geese. Been happy with these for the last couple of seasons. +1 I use exactly the same. Very good cartridges!!! I use the 42g for the geeseIf I use a 2/ 3/4 chambered gun, bournaghi 36g are hard to beat... Edited June 30, 2013 by Wildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Last year i had some Victory steel and they were brilliant, cant seem to get them now which is a big shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Thank you very much for the replies! Really appreciate it. I think I'll try and stock up on some gamebore 36g 3's for the duck and nitro stell in BBs for the geese. Can I ask what you guys are paying for each of the above? Looked online and the gamebore shells seemed pretty expensive? ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 You will not go far wrong with that choice of shells bur I would still get a box of 3.5 no 2 Remmington Sprotsman steel for flights when you expect the mallard to be on the l;imit of range.Combined with a tight afterchoke they will bring mallard down as far as you want to shoot them. Nitro is better but its a bit pricey for ducks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting2 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 My local stocks the mamoth 3" 36g 1s at £3 for ten. I much prefer the mamoth 5s though as 'Tony G' said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 clear Gambore super steel 32g 4's best performer Black Remington 3&1/2" 1's love thease Green Remington 3&1/2"1's dont like Tried some blue hull 32g 4's dont like Blue mammoth 3" 3s & 1's I think, didnt like them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Put a dozen wildfowlers in a bar , buy them a pint and ask them what was their favourite cartridge was and you would get 12 differnt answers. It was just the same in the old lead days. I have the ones I get on with and those I dislike , but always keep an open mind and do try a box of anything new that comes on the market that takes your fancy Looking forward to trying the new Eley Lightning when someone around me starts to stock them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Thank you very much for the replies! Really appreciate it. I think I'll try and stock up on some gamebore 36g 3's for the duck and nitro stell in BBs for the geese. Can I ask what you guys are paying for each of the above? Looked online and the gamebore shells seemed pretty ATB Last season I was paying £9 per 25 for 36g #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 This year - like every other year - I am determined that I will use up all the odds and **** in my cartridge box before I buy any new ones. When purchased they all came with the recommendation from someone that they will kill geese and ducks at phenominal distances. Then someone else told me to try something else - and I did. The result is that I have half boxes of just about every brand of cartridge known to the fowling world. This was true when we were still using lead with the result that I have a great heap of 'foxing' cartridges that I will probably never use. Guns I rarely buy - If I am happy with one I keep it. Cartridges - well I'm a sucker for brightly coloured boxes of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Thanks for the replies guys! When I looked on just cart. I'm sure the gamebore were a lot more than £9 for 25 so ill have to look around. Funnily enough I just used up a lot of the odd steel decoying crows the other day. Glad to see the back of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 At £9 the Gamebore will be 3.5 inch shells. The 3 inch stuff is about £3 for 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Thank you why is the 3" more expensive than the 3.5" shells? I thought the 3.5 being bigger, would cost more Are the 3" better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Thank you why is the 3" more expensive than the 3.5" shells? I thought the 3.5 being bigger, would cost more Are the 3" better? maybe £3 for box of 10 3" and £9 for box of 10 3.5" andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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