njc110381 Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I've just got myself 250 of these shells, 28g of 7.5 fibre. I didn't want to buy too many in case they are no good, but needed a few cheapies to miss the clays with on sunday before I get my 1000 Eleys next time I'm at my regular shoot. Are they ok for the price? I'm not expecting top cass kit for what they cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I've used them on clays and them seem ok to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 not bad for the money at all. Pattern well i am told, too much recoil for my taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleye Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 me and my boy use them all the time clay busting 28g 7.5s 8s and 9s cycle through his auto sweet as we pick em up £89 per thou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnclassic Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 They are made by Lyalvale and have recently been improved. I patterned the previous cartridges at 30 yards and there were small inconsistencies that werent there with the Hulls. I wasnt impressed with Eley FITASC or VIP standard. They will do the business though. Personally I now buy Hull extended range fibre 8's for clays and they really are a cracking shell and not heavy on the recoil. I shot some of my lads World cups when I ran out - now they are punchy on the shoulder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 They are cheap but I dont like them personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 not bad for the money at all. Pattern well i am told, too much recoil for my taste Are you sure? I have a whole load in number 8 (unused as I have no 12b to play with ) but they felt like rimfire cartridges to shoot Maybe its becuase I have been shooting with 36gram and BB too much latley.. but to be honest, I thought they were a lot less recoil then other 28's I tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenlander Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I shoot them all the time at clays through my Teknys,and get very good results ,they are cheap,but I am very often top gun in the group I shoot with, and a few weeks ago put up the best score of the week at the shooting ground. However when I was using an over and under sporter ,the recoil was to much after a few weeks,to the point they got me flinching as I pulled the trigger,and this is the only cartridge I have had this with, If you can shoot them with out a problem,stick with them ,you can pay a lot more and get no better scores, if its just practice and for fun, why pay more than you have to? All the best Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 not bad for the money at all. Pattern well i am told, too much recoil for my taste Are you sure? I have a whole load in number 8 (unused as I have no 12b to play with ) but they felt like rimfire cartridges to shoot Maybe its becuase I have been shooting with 36gram and BB too much latley.. but to be honest, I thought they were a lot less recoil then other 28's I tried yes mate, i wont shoot this cartridge for clays because i find the recoil that distracting. Ive suffered from recoil anticipation for a long time, its taken a good 9 months of shooting a gun that fits with nice recoiling carts. to stop it. Not about to start again because of these carts. There are alot better ones out there for not alot more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Agree with nick, to much recoil on them for my likeing. Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 i had 2 boxs given two me and not used them yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 They are the cheapest of the cheap, these are the only cartridges ever to have misfired on me, and I had about 5 out of 1000, so in a word "dogpoo". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnclassic Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I pay £148/1000 for Hull Extended Range fibre shells and I would not use cheaper cartridges no matter what anyone says as they work for me. DJ's did me at the time, now Ive grown fussy (and senile). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 yes mate, i wont shoot this cartridge for clays because i find the recoil that distracting. Ive suffered from recoil anticipation for a long time, its taken a good 9 months of shooting a gun that fits with nice recoiling carts. to stop it. Not about to start again because of these carts. There are alot better ones out there for not alot more money. You are probably right.. I have never shot clays as much as you, so to be honest I dont know a thing about hitting them properly.. I have had a few goes, (and hit a few) but I doubt I would ever get good enough to notice the difference between carts My targets are usually stationary (other then a few lucky pigeons). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 As I said, I'm going to pick up 1000 eleys ( I shoot well with them) in a couple of weeks. I just needed some to get by with until I have them. I'll be fine with the recoil. You can't beat a good pounding when shooting, it's all part of the fun to me and I'm certainly not recoil shy. Thanks for all the answers, at least I know what to expect. I was tempted to buy the more expensive ones, but as I miss more than I hit at the moment I really just want to get a load of shots fired to get used to the shotty. I don't send the lead where it needs to be most of the time, using the best round in the world wouldn't help my scores I'm just looking at the standard of the crimp on the end, I don't think I'll be buying many more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 I agree, and its a good idea to find a cartridge that works and you are happy with, because it feels right, gives you more confidence. You arent thinking about the cartridge when you are taking the shots then. Doesnt matter how good the cartridge is, it wont hit the clays for you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Got 250 of these today from the local ground for a bit of xmas practice.. I agree with previous comments on the recoil, they do have a bit of a bump to them. But they felt as good as the Clever's that I started the day with, if not a bit faster... ? GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I've had them both in plas and fibre wad 7.5, ideal economical cartridge they 24.00 per 250 down here at moment, which ain't bad!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 They are not made by Lyalvale(Express), although they are distributed by them. They are made by Rio and re-badged as D and J. I have shot 2k of the plastic wad 8's - they seem okay. I have used 100 of their felt wads. I will never, ever use another. Quite simply the filthiest cartirdge I have ever used, including Baikal. Took ages to clean my barrels. I would not have them as a gift. That was in a Classic Doubles 101 Trap. My mate had the same problem in his Gamba. Truly dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 same problem here and for the price ya may as well get others hard recoil and very very dirty paid £100-1000 d&j £100-1000 eley first (much better) £101-1000 eley blue bought these instead this time seem to be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedandlazee Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 I noticed a marked difference when i used D&J ( they were **** ) so i went back to eley's. Like sparkie says they are about the same price too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 The performance seemed to be ok. It was the poor quality of the crimp and the filthy, impossible to clean barrels on my gun after only 25 shots that put me off! Eleys seem good and cheap to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 had a lot of miss fires in last batch , very dirty on the barrels , but seem to still break the clays ok. any body tried DIANA ,s ( italian i think ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean c Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 i personaly find these cartridges fine (except they dont cycle in my stoeger for some reason) and resonably good value but at the clay shoot on boxing day a bloke had 1 seperate and lodge part way down the barrel which could have been nasty .good job it wasnt far enough down to let the other cartridge chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 I had an issue last time out with opening the gun to reload... it just wouldn't open. Happend twice with these carts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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