keg Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 My understanding of a homophobe was someone who does not like the gay community and actively does something about it. As I said above I don't understand it or think it's normal but would not abuse someone who was gay or lesbian and if I saw someone being attacked because of their sexuality, would happily wade in and assist him/her. Am I a homophobe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fse10 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Does it matter? Really? If one of your children turned out to be gay,would you be bothered? And if one day he/she said they wanted to get married to someone of the same sex,in church,would you object,or would you just want them to be happy? I really can't see what all the fuss is about. That's what i have 50g BB'S for . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Christ on a bike, you dont have to love gays but to hate them is homophobic if you broadcast your opinion. They dont bother me a jot. But then i have let myself go a bit. Edited July 17, 2013 by ack-ack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 But then i have let myself go a bit. Don't hide your light love, if they don't see the inner beauty it's their problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Don't hide your light love, if they don't see the inner beauty it's their problem. They do if i'm wearing baggy shorts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 A "phobia" is the irrational fear of anything, are gays trying to make you become gay? Looking to restrict your choices or way of life? Nope, I don't get it, and find it as amusing as any straight man, but I don't expect my own personal opinion to be enforced in law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Some people argue that it devalues their own marriage. I'm not exactly sure how - but that's their argument. there marriage probably is of little value if their threatened by others getting married Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I really couldn't care less about the whole subject. If that's what other people want to do then let them. What harm does it do to me? If you don't like it don't go. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 there marriage probably is of little value if their threatened by others getting married Indeed. I'm wondering if this may not have some unintended consequences. Might one not now argue that polygamy shoud be legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Indeed. I'm wondering if this may not have some unintended consequences. Might one not now argue that polygamy shoud be legal? It is now, there are loads of polygamous marriages in certain ethnic communities in this country. Nobody says anything when a man arrives here with his three wives, the youngest of whom is only fourteen. Everyone looks the other way. Edited July 18, 2013 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 It is now, there are loads of polygamous marriages in certain ethnic communities in this country. Nobody says anything when a man arrives here with his three wives, the youngest of whom is only fourteen. Everyone looks the other way. They are not recognised in law though. Anyone can shack up with a bunch of women and call them his 'wives'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 4 wives would be a costly divorce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 4 wives would be a costly divorce Not under sharia law it wouldn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Endless round of PMT - OMG no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Endless round of PMT - OMG no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 I can see why some folk don't like the idea of people being gay. In my mind I find the thought rather uncomfortable and don't understand it at all. The only way I can relate to gay people is by imagining how I would feel if society was gay and I was the odd one out liking women. Imagine for a moment how repulsive that would feel - people saying "you shouldn't be looking at women, that aint right", and then take a step back and consider that gays are human beings too with exactly the same basic settings and feelings. They deserve to live life the same as the rest of us - as long as their rights don't in turn remove the rights of others. I remember a conversation I had with a good friend of mine as clear as day. We were in our mid twenties and I was chatting to him on the phone as he'd moved to Bristol and we don't see each other as much as we used to. He piped up that he had some quite serious feelings for someone who was a bit younger than him (18 I think) and did I think that was too young? I replied that I thought that would be ok, a little young perhaps but legally an adult and he wasn't that old so I couldn't see the issue. Then I asked if she was fit.... His reply... "well I think he is". :o I'd known this lad since we were five. He'd been in my class all the way through school right from infants to leaving secondary together and I had no idea. I just sat there silent for a moment, as did he. Once I'd had a second (which felt like for ever to him I'm sure) to process what I'd just been told I said "fair enough, go for it then"! He was really surprised at how well I took it. His first words were "what, so it doesn't bother you then?" Well what could I say? He was a decent lad and we'd always been friends. It was a real shock to me but it didn't change anything. I think my view of gay people changed a great deal that day because I had no choice but to sit back and ask myself what really matters in life. My dad is a racist, homophobic, you name it he's against it and that's how I'd been brought up but there was no way on earth I was losing a really good mate because he happened to bat for the other team! The only thing that saddened me a little is that it took him so long to feel he could be honest with me. But then I'll never know how it feels to keep a secret like that. Coming out is seriously scary and I was one of the first people who knew him to know. He should have just told me sooner, daft bender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildtrax Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 I can see why some folk don't like the idea of people being gay. In my mind I find the thought rather uncomfortable and don't understand it at all. The only way I can relate to gay people is by imagining how I would feel if society was gay and I was the odd one out liking women. Imagine for a moment how repulsive that would feel - people saying "you shouldn't be looking at women, that aint right", and then take a step back and consider that gays are human beings too with exactly the same basic settings and feelings. They deserve to live life the same as the rest of us - as long as their rights don't in turn remove the rights of others. I remember a conversation I had with a good friend of mine as clear as day. We were in our mid twenties and I was chatting to him on the phone as he'd moved to Bristol and we don't see each other as much as we used to. He piped up that he had some quite serious feelings for someone who was a bit younger than him (18 I think) and did I think that was too young? I replied that I thought that would be ok, a little young perhaps but legally an adult and he wasn't that old so I couldn't see the issue. Then I asked if she was fit.... His reply... "well I think he is". :o I'd known this lad since we were five. He'd been in my class all the way through school right from infants to leaving secondary together and I had no idea. I just sat there silent for a moment, as did he. Once I'd had a second (which felt like for ever to him I'm sure) to process what I'd just been told I said "fair enough, go for it then"! He was really surprised at how well I took it. His first words were "what, so it doesn't bother you then?" Well what could I say? He was a decent lad and we'd always been friends. It was a real shock to me but it didn't change anything. I think my view of gay people changed a great deal that day because I had no choice but to sit back and ask myself what really matters in life. My dad is a racist, homophobic, you name it he's against it and that's how I'd been brought up but there was no way on earth I was losing a really good mate because he happened to bat for the other team! The only thing that saddened me a little is that it took him so long to feel he could be honest with me. But then I'll never know how it feels to keep a secret like that. Coming out is seriously scary and I was one of the first people who knew him to know. He should have just told me sooner, daft bender! well at last a common sense approach to a subject that always gets a lot on here spouting a right load of old pony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 My younger brother found himself in a gay club called heaven with a guy we used to work with , Colin was 18, slim and had long blonde hair and made no secret of his sexuality . As the night went on Colin asked my brother why he was standing with his back to the wall or bar all the time and my brother expressed his concern at it being in a gay bar and feeling the need to hide his backside from view of the revellers. The reply from Colin was that if my brother was in a club full of women chances were none of them would fancy him as he was an ugly *** so why would the men in the gay bar take any interest ! The moral is that as people are always fearful of things we don't understand which is demonstrated by quite a few of the answers in this thread , I say live and let live , I am neither homophobic or religious and don't in any way view gay marriage as a threat to me or society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'd known this lad since we were five. He'd been in my class all the way through school right from infants to leaving secondary together and I had no idea. I just sat there silent for a moment, as did he. Once I'd had a second (which felt like for ever to him I'm sure) to process what I'd just been told I said "fair enough, go for it then"! He was really surprised at how well I took it. His first words were "what, so it doesn't bother you then?" Well what could I say? He was a decent lad and we'd always been friends. It was a real shock to me but it didn't change anything. I think my view of gay people changed a great deal that day because I had no choice but to sit back and ask myself what really matters in life. My dad is a racist, homophobic, you name it he's against it and that's how I'd been brought up but there was no way on earth I was losing a really good mate because he happened to bat for the other team! The only thing that saddened me a little is that it took him so long to feel he could be honest with me. But then I'll never know how it feels to keep a secret like that. Coming out is seriously scary and I was one of the first people who knew him to know. He should have just told me sooner, daft bender! You are obviously a man of integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fal Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 I seriously cannot believe some of the views of people on this thread!!! We are in 2013 and there is a lot worse things going on in the world than two people who love each other getting married!! It's irrelevant if the couple is two men or two women, I am glad they now can do what everyone else can do. It's not an issue to me at all, I cannot see why it would be an issue to anyone at all. Why don't we just round up the gays and gas them, I am sure some of you would be quite happy with that!! I'm sure Hitler or Mussolini would be happy to read some of the posts here!! By the way I am not gay, but still find some comments shameful and embarrassing. No wonder people are terrified of admitting to be gay with attitudes like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 i really cannot see why the government are dedicating so much of its time towards gay marriage, gays can already have a civil marriage but why do they want a full marriage when homosexuality is against most religions views? how can a government force a religion into breaking its religeous views in order to appease gays by changing the law? are we going to see muslim gay weddings? i bet you a solid gold flying pig we don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 I really couldn't care less about the whole subject. If that's what other people want to do then let them. What harm does it do to me? If you don't like it don't go. +1 Does it effect me in any way? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 i really cannot see why the government are dedicating so much of its time towards gay marriage, gays can already have a civil marriage but why do they want a full marriage when homosexuality is against most religions views? how can a government force a religion into breaking its religeous views in order to appease gays by changing the law? are we going to see muslim gay weddings? i bet you a solid gold flying pig we don't I think its just the first step in forcing churches to marry gays That is the end goal for the gay rights groups pushing for this I don't think the christian religion is popular nowadays but being a queer is so the goverment will jump on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 not a religeous person myself but i really can't see what the government are hoping to achieve by forcing a church into accepting gays? its ridiculous and lets face it surely the country has far more pressing issues to be dealt with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 not a religeous person myself but i really can't see what the government are hoping to achieve by forcing a church into accepting gays? its ridiculous and lets face it surely the country has far more pressing issues to be dealt with? the church are not being forced to marry gays / accepting gays. its a shame really, because its quite obvious that a job allowing a man to remain unmarried and able to wear a nice frock has long been a refuge for gays in a society that would have not allowed them to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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