Bleeh Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) ...and every parent knows how to do that right? Why the hell not? Every parent knows how to type 'How to set up child filters' into Google. Any law set along the basis of the 'Think of the Children' backing is always going to be rubbish pandering to the lowest common denominator Children will always see porn online (Name me one thing that's been 'Banned' from the Internet that's been actually removed), the only thing you'll be doing is making it more taboo and wasting money. This is turn will just lead children to not understand the context of what they are seeing, and leave them confused which is frankly more damaging in the long term. If you want to have low pregnancy rates and decent sexually health teenagers the only really helpful thing is to educate them about life, and what people get up to, not to hide it away and make them think there is something wrong with them,. Edited July 22, 2013 by Bleeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) information is power it was inevitable one day the powers that be would start censorship. the internet the last frontier of interlectual freedom Edited July 22, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Someone else in another forum pretty much summed it up. "It's much worse than a simple pornography website block, much worse. From now on in the UK the government has the right to issue automatic blocks on any website found to contain adult content, they've also reserved the right to install web filters remotely to your computer, without your consent. Essentially giving the government a blank check to block any website they deem inappropriate, this can at a whim include almost any website on the internet. Not only that, but they've decided that anything depicting sexual violence against women is illegal, yes, that's right, own a clockwork orange? Own some bdsm? Too bad. Be prepared to get rid of it or face jail time. They're also looking in to cracking down on "encrypted forums which allow criminals to hide their activities", which, in tandem with GCHQ documents released entitled "Mastering the internet", should immediately tell you that TOR/VPN/Proxies are soon to be outlawed. They've already essentially made encryption in the UK illegal (You can be sentenced to 5 years in prison for not giving an encryption key to the government upon request, even if you genuinely don't know the key or never had it, too bad, even if the encrypted file contains sensitive personal information too bad). Couple those above facts with the fact that there has been next to no mention of GCHQ's illegal activities in the British press, you can guarantee yourself that if you are a UK citizen, you have no right to privacy, no right to security, you will watch what the government wants you to watch and you will be ruined if you try to hide or watch something that displeases them. You couldn't make this **** up, and nobody seems to care - do people genuinely like subjugation or are they simply so complacent they would give up everything for the sense of security?" I'm just waiting for the "if you've got nothing to hide........." moron to come along !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 i'm gunna need a second job or something now i have 20 odd hours to spare Only 20 hours? Yer going soft in yer old age mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 nobody has mentioned smart phones every kid has one nowadays, so what if you set up filters at home on your pc, they can just go outside and access it on there i phones if they want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 nobody has mentioned smart phones every kid has one nowadays, so what if you set up filters at home on your pc, they can just go outside and access it on there i phones if they want i suppose phone providers will be amongst the companies expected to get involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 i suppose phone providers will be amongst the companies expected to get involved you could be right just have to wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 having said that phones use search engines the sameones pc's use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I learnt a few things from the internet lol I look at it like a lesson . Watched it since I was 14 and never hurt me or anyone . I'm 31 now and have always respected women but just got dirtier with age lol on the long term missis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I am gutted il going to have to find a site that's not technically porn, then explain to the missus I need to use it and hope she unlocks it! if not il end up digging out the old stash in the loft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 My biggest concern with this is quite simply that if one has to 'opt in' to want to view porn (the wife isn't a concern, she likes porn as much as the next chap! lol) then it is a VERY small leap to a register of 'deviants' that could then be targeted by the authorities! Every website you visit and video you watch is logged anyhow. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 My Mrs don't use a PC so she wont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchill Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 As matters stand all the weirdos are happily and apparently openly outting themselves - if you are searching for something unpleasant and you are doing it often enough you are volunteering yourself for a look over from the authorities. If you shut all of that down your just forcing it underground but the hardcore derranged are probably more organised and technically savvy than the authorities. From the most recent kiddy murders the internet history indicates that the perps went from normal porn, to hardcore porn and then to the deviant stuff apparently in persuit of a greater thrill and because the "normal" stuff no longer floated their boats. Stopping people from entering a destructive porn cycle is an interesting one, but given that the rest of the Country manages, I suspect it's just down to a few individuals who were always going to end up locked up. My sentiments exactly, people have been caught in the past due to their internet searches, if you remove that ability for the authorities to track down the individuals involved in illegal activities you will drive it underground and off the authorities radar. After watching Die Hard or Fast and the Furious at no point did i get the urge to run around a block of flats shooting a gun or drive to work the next morning at 150 mph. There are always going to be certain individuals who are destined to do bad things. The authorities are blaming the internet to gain votes. So looking back in history before the internet and mainstream porn, what did we blame for all the cereal murderers and rapists in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think too many here are missing the point , this about stopping filthy perves accessing child porn & stopping vulnerable kids be exploited by low like scum that take & post these pictures & anyone who could not care less should hang their heads in shame Or are some just too thick too work it out ?. Good on the Prime minister for doing some thing . Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think too many here are missing the point , this about stopping filthy perves accessing child porn & stopping vulnerable kids be exploited by low like scum that take & post these pictures & anyone who could not care less should hang their heads in shame Or are some just too thick too work it out ?. Good on the Prime minister for doing some thing . Pole Star It's been like it through my childhood tho and i can separate the difference. It's parents that need to step up to the mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 God this is going to be another one of THESE threads isn't it :( starts light hearted........ends in insults lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) I think too many here are missing the point , this about stopping filthy perves accessing child porn & stopping vulnerable kids be exploited by low like scum that take & post these pictures & anyone who could not care less should hang their heads in shame Or are some just too thick too work it out ?. Good on the Prime minister for doing some thing . Pole Star No it isn't. Perverts will always find a way - they always have. This is about forcing isp's to filter porn. I agree with that sentiment for people with kids, but they are going about it *** backwards. Edited July 22, 2013 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 My sentiments exactly, people have been caught in the past due to their internet searches, if you remove that ability for the authorities to track down the individuals involved in illegal activities you will drive it underground and off the authorities radar. After watching Die Hard or Fast and the Furious at no point did i get the urge to run around a block of flats shooting a gun or drive to work the next morning at 150 mph. There are always going to be certain individuals who are destined to do bad things. The authorities are blaming the internet to gain votes. So looking back in history before the internet and mainstream porn, what did we blame for all the cereal murderers and rapists in the past? rock music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I'm not bothered if they block it. I'll just get the mrs to phone the provider and sort it out for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) anyone for a spot of porn surfing? Edited July 22, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Cameron is a ****. It is an unworkable PR machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think too many here are missing the point , this about stopping filthy perves accessing child porn & stopping vulnerable kids be exploited by low like scum that take & post these pictures & anyone who could not care less should hang their heads in shame Or are some just too thick too work it out ?. Good on the Prime minister for doing some thing . Pole Star Ah if everything was only as simple as Pole Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I am gutted il going to have to find a site that's not technically porn, then explain to the missus I need to use it and hope she unlocks it! if not il end up digging out the old stash in the loft! A tug down memory lane! I can see kays catalogue making a comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think too many here are missing the point , this about stopping filthy perves accessing child porn & stopping vulnerable kids be exploited by low like scum that take & post these pictures & anyone who could not care less should hang their heads in shame Or are some just too thick too work it out ?. Good on the Prime minister for doing some thing . Pole Star Translated = Think of the children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Translated = Think of the children. its people thinking about the children that caused the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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